[alancalverd]

Not entirely true, alas.

Inheritance taxes generally require children to sell the parental home, and even if they don't, it is increasingly rare in civilised countries and fascist dictatorships like  the USA, to inherit before you retire, by which time you probably have adult children too.

Gaza could be turned into a reasonable place to live within a few years if Hamas returned all the hostages and disbanded. For as long as parasitic scum hide under civilian buildings and maintain political power by trying to destroy Israel, their citizens will suffer.

[Petrochemicals]

Yes population control is needed, but not because of co2.

20 percent of the global population (1.6billion) use 80 percent of the resources produced.
24 of July is the annual date (7/12ths or 58%) that resources are used that earth can replaced, the rest of the year is the excess use of resources.
Earth population expected to rise to 13 billion from 8 billion.

So earth can sustain 1.15 billion people in recourses in a standard of western living, given the 13 billion want a western standard of living we will use recourses at twelve times the rate the earth can sustain.

[acsinuk (OP)]

Alan,
They do not need to wait for parents to die but can buy an empty house with a mortgage. But we do not need to build new houses so save all that fuel needed for construction.
The UN needs to find a solution to Gaza. They are a world sponsored organisation with billions in their budgets which could be used to build a new Palestine in the Western Sahara.
The government there can surely be persuaded by huge UN funding to house the 300,000 odd Hamas immigrant families by building a new city for them.
UN must do something to stop the war in Gaza immediately; free food instead of free contraception in was the mistake we all made.

[alancalverd]

UN must do something to stop the war in Gaza immediately;

Only Hamas can stop the war. Release the hostages and abandon its genocidal policy. Too many anti-Israel governments are represented in the UN for it to be able to prevent a recurrence.

"Palestine" is a myth - there never was a unified nation in the area from the collapse of the Ottoman Empire until the creation of Israel. In the interim, the area was controlled by Britain, with a population of about 700,000, many of whom did not recognise any territorial boundaries, ownership of land, or government.

[Petrochemicals]

"Palestine" is a myth

By that means so is the bible.

[alancalverd]

The word refers to a region, not a nation. The Old Testament mentions umpteen different tribes, mostly at war with each other, and the New Testament is about happenings in an administrative region of the Roman empire, again peopled by various tribes.  The only unifying force among the natives under Roman rule was Judaism, not Islam, which hadn't been invented. Subsequent rule was from Turkey until the British mandate.

It would of course make sense to establish a purely secular selfgoverning state in the area, but there are too many religious and political parasites in the Middle East to allow such a thing to happen.

[acsinuk (OP)]

Well, the old testament is always mentioning the conflict between the Philistines of Gaza and the Israelites so squabbling between them is expected.

But now due to free medical interference, Gaza has grown from a few tens of thousand of families into a huge city which is unable to self sustain itself and its political leaders Hamas have grandiose dreams of a separate Palestinian state.

But that new state would not be able to feed or maintain itself without outside aid from outside donors, so it needs to be moved into a larger area with a similar environment

The world cannot tolerate seeing starving children in refugee camps inside Gaza so UN or Arabian States need to resit the 8 refugee camp starting with the most northern camps in Gaza; to camps in non neighbouring countries and I have suggested western Sahara as a suitable place.

Would Israel support/allow them to move out knowing that some are murders;  I wonder?

[alancalverd]

There will always be someone living outside the borders of Israel, and for as long as there is religion, there will always be some kind of filth that can rise to power by blaming the Jews for everything and vowing to destroy Israel.

[Petrochemicals]

The word refers to a region, not a nation. The Old Testament mentions umpteen different tribes, mostly at war with each other, and the New Testament is about happenings in an administrative region of the Roman empire, again peopled by various tribes.  The only unifying force among the natives under Roman rule was Judaism, not Islam, which hadn't been invented. Subsequent rule was from Turkey until the British mandate.

It would of course make sense to establish a purely secular selfgoverning state in the area, but there are too many religious and political parasites in the Middle East to allow such a thing to happen.

The theory was make a mixed bag and every one will get along, the practice however is one variety gains power and consolidates power with brutal violence. Sunni Shia Alouwite kurd etc. The UN should have taken a cheese wire to the ottoman empire and cut it up into a thousand pieces.

[alancalverd]

The declared object was to create a Jewish homeland, which in my view was exactly what we didn't need.

It assuaged the general European guilt of centuries of antisemitism whilst simultaneously offering a humane route for Jews to leave the countries in which we had historically been treated as the Enemy Within, and are still regarded with suspicion. In other words, replacing antisemitic sentiment with antisemitic action, and making the entirely spurious "Jewish Problem" of the Christian world into an actual problem for the Muslim world.

Much like the Partition of India. The moment you reassign territory, not on the basis of occupancy, purchase or inheritance but on an entirely illogical  characteristic like color or religion, you create lasting opportunities for political and religious parasites to profit at the expense of everyone else.