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It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« on: 27/08/2022 22:57:03 »
Do you recognize the origin of this text?

To initiates and specialists of the law ; It was promised and under oath to have to manage a galaxy to those who were to inherit it. Were the rules followed?
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #1 on: 27/08/2022 23:56:05 »
Google can't find it, so I have no chance.
- I think "galaxy" throws it, since it only really took off after Hubble's discoveries during WW2
- It would have a much broader set of matches if you used "land" or "country", which have much higher frequency (but curiously, both are declining over time...)
« Last Edit: 28/08/2022 09:53:46 by evan_au »
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #2 on: 28/08/2022 07:16:29 »
Quote from: evan_au on 27/08/2022 23:56:05
Google can't find it, so I have no chance.
I think it might be from the Quran, but a quick search can’t find it in the translation I have.

Quote from: evan_au on 27/08/2022 23:56:05
- I think "galaxy" throws it, since only really took off after Hubble's discoveries during WW2
The Greeks used the word to describe the milky way and Chaucer uses it for the same in the 1300s. I suppose they didn’t have much day to day usage in written works, hence low count. Look before 1800 and there are some interesting peaks:

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Interesting your comment on land/country, the Jews were promised a land flowing with milk and honey. On the other hand it might refer to ‘a lot’ as in there are a lot of stars in the milky way.
The syntax is odd, may be the OPs usage?
« Last Edit: 28/08/2022 07:27:37 by Colin2B »
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #3 on: 28/08/2022 20:35:21 »
Quote from: Colin2B on 28/08/2022 07:16:29
I think it might be from the Quran, but a quick search can’t find it in the translation I have.
Or something from Heracles.

Quote from: Colin2B on 28/08/2022 07:16:29
Interesting your comment on land/country, the Jews were promised a land flowing with milk and honey.
There we go.

Quote from: Colin2B on 28/08/2022 07:16:29
On the other hand it might refer to ‘a lot’ as in there are a lot of stars in the milky way.
Isaiah 7:22
And it shall come to pass, for the abundance of milk that they shall give he shall eat butter: for butter and honey shall every one eat that is left in the land.
King James Bible

A Land Flowing with Milk and Honey? It’s Not What You Think https://www.israeltoday.co.il/read/a-land-flowing-with-milk-and-honey-its-not-what-you-think/

The promised land is surely not a classic land followed by its herd, but rather something much more important where the world can become whoever it wants. If the promised land is a galaxy, then the stars are the herd that sows milk to feed life.

Does the chosen people deserve this administrator right?
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #4 on: 30/08/2022 06:34:09 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 28/08/2022 20:35:21
... the stars are the herd that sows milk to feed life.
be the light...

But it is easy to imagine for those who have failed in the rules of good conduct and towards the rest of the world, that it would be darkness, and will have to carry all their past actions. Indeed the accumulation of negative energies generated through the mechanisms of life, and by the principle of causality, ultimately remembers and by information, from whom to procured this.

What must come up, must come down.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #5 on: 30/08/2022 16:12:04 »
Promised by whom? Have you checked his bank balance and stock holdings?
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #6 on: 31/08/2022 23:32:22 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 30/08/2022 16:12:04
Promised by whom?
Guess?

The same as...
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Quote from: Colin2B on 28/08/2022 07:16:29
... were promised a land flowing with milk and honey.


Quote from: alancalverd on 30/08/2022 16:12:04
Have you checked his bank balance and stock holdings?
Your mind is limited to what you believe to be most important, which is money. Or do you practice agnotology? But I know you are not ignorant. So you know that the construction of the future is not done through material or money that can burn or disappear, but rather bet on good behavior and a holly construction of the mind in order to achieve rooting by the latter in order to never fall into the depths.

IOW the work in a life is also to grow our spirit in order to reach a connection with our creator who promises us another life after this one. It is therefore to be able and through an eternal life to continue our existence in good condition. The rest will grind.

This being that an exercise.

Here's what I'm talking about.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #7 on: 31/08/2022 23:39:37 »
PS: Ultra liberalism (capitalism) has destroyed what could have been a world without famine and disease. This is a certainty. Mission failed, right?
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #8 on: 01/09/2022 11:18:07 »
Only those with stock and money can make meaningful and executable promises, which is why capitalism works.

I think disease predates capitalism, but as here is money to  be made by treating or preventing it, we have eliminated the most common ones.

Amartya Sen pointed out that there has never been a famine in a democracy, and AFAIK most  surviving democracies are capitalist.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #9 on: 03/09/2022 00:54:54 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 01/09/2022 11:18:07
Only those with stock and money can make meaningful and executable promises, which is why capitalism works
I have clearly specified ultra-liberalism and between parenthesis its under jagent which is capitalism. Ultra liberalism is very well used in the French language, but I have not found anything as a substitute in the English language. So here is the ultra liberalism is a poison that sweeps everything. Meaningful and executable promises are not about money. A promise is a promise and has no venal value. In the end, you seem to me more ignorant than I thought according to your signature.

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I think disease predates capitalism, but as here is money to  be made by treating or preventing it, we have eliminated the most common ones.
Some of the pharmaceutical lobbyists, among other things have blocked through patents, and have rather created bioterrorism than the opposite. Indeed at the beginning the vastness of the Amazon can it and through its flora cure all the diseases which existed. For another example and in natural discovery the cure of Pasteur. The ultra liberal economic model are just mechanisms that only plunder the wealth of others. For example we have the Western settlers who plunder Africa of its mining resources; and not so long from that the containte of slavery. This is the given image which is only reality. You and through your rhetoric you praise me for your denial of reality in relation to what I deplore which is simply this imposed supremacy followed by the current balance sheet of the world which has been shaped as they please. Are you part of it? Or have you known the galley in its literal and figurative sense (struggle)? Because those who are initiated and the architects of the world order will be in the worst of the galleys. This is a promise.

Quote from: alancalverd on 01/09/2022 11:18:07
Amartya Sen pointed out that there has never been a famine in a democracy, and AFAIK most  surviving democracies are capitalist.
Has there never been a famine in a democracy? But what world do you live in? You must have some dough then to say that.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #10 on: 03/09/2022 01:36:47 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 03/09/2022 00:54:54
Meaningful and executable promises are not about money.

If I promise that you will receive something, I must either have it (stock) or be able to acquire it (with money) for you. If not, the promise is not executable or meaningful. It could be a wish or a prediction, but it isn't a valid promise.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #11 on: 03/09/2022 01:48:21 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 03/09/2022 00:54:54
Has there never been a famine in a democracy?
I haven't read Sen's paper in detail but it's an interesting conclusion and I can't think of a case. I'm not sure how voting rights were assigned in Ireland in the 1840s (the potato famine) but  there certainly wasn't a Catholic  majority in parliament.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #12 on: 03/09/2022 01:50:04 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 03/09/2022 01:36:47
It could be a wish or a prediction, but it isn't a valid promise.
I promise you hell at the expense of love.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #13 on: 03/09/2022 10:17:04 »
Do you own hell? If not, are you in a position to purchase it? How will you deliver it? Has love agreed to pay?

Never bet more than you can afford to lose, or promise what you can't deliver. Unless you are a politician, of course, in which case I and all real men despise you..
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #14 on: 03/09/2022 11:13:07 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 01/09/2022 11:18:07
Only those with stock and money can make meaningful and executable promises, which is why capitalism works.
Plenty of people who don't have the resources still make promises. (and I agree with you about the politicians...)
But in the case of this discussion, it's apparently even worse.
It's a promise made by an entity which doesn't exist.

Is that worthy of the effort  of discussion?
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #15 on: 03/09/2022 13:54:37 »
My favorite example was the sale of Granada Television, back in the 1960s.

I forget who was involved but the sum of £50M was agreed. The purchaser then met the seller in the gents toilet and said "You know perfectly well I haven't got £50M. Can you lend it to me, against the security of my new TV company?"

The loan contract was signed for a consideration of £1. Now that's how to do business.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #16 on: 03/09/2022 16:10:01 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 03/09/2022 10:17:04
Never bet more than you can afford to lose, or promise what you can't deliver. Unless you are a politician, of course, in which case I and all real men despise you..
Neither. I bet you by the promise and with exact and flawless certainty to have someone type on a search engine "Alpha Blondy Jerusalem" who has read this sentence.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 03/09/2022 11:13:07
It's a promise made by an entity which doesn't exist.
You will have no evidence to give of what you are advancing. Even less proof of your assertion as a bluff. You didn't know.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #17 on: 03/09/2022 17:02:46 »
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Neither. I bet you by the promise and with exact and flawless certainty to have someone type on a search engine "Alpha Blondy Jerusalem" who has read this sentence.
I think the people who read this forum have more sense. And how would you know anyway? 
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #18 on: 03/09/2022 17:05:14 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 03/09/2022 17:02:46
And how would you know anyway? 
It is mathematics by statistics.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #19 on: 06/09/2022 23:57:29 »
@alancalverd do you still think you can't promise without money? Or is the promise free if I promise to eat an almond just for you?
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