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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #40 on: 09/09/2022 09:02:36 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 09/09/2022 08:56:56
So God is a 1 in 4 shot.
And then, there's Susan...
Mmm. So after Susan there are an infinite number of god eaters? That seems to reduce the odds of a god existing.

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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #41 on: 09/09/2022 09:52:02 »
And any proof of the non-existence of Susan can also be recast as a proof of the non-existence of God.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #42 on: 09/09/2022 11:23:43 »
Quote from: Colin2B on 09/09/2022 09:02:36
Mmm. So after Susan there are an infinite number of god eaters? That seems to reduce the odds of a god existing.
Not according to Occam.

The more preconditions you have to apply before a condition is met, the less likely it is to be met*.

Your target is the nonexistence of god, but you now require the actual or possible existence of an infinite number of deophages to meet that target, and the absence, or failure to perform, of any of them, would invalidate your precondition.

So you either need to demonstrate the existence and function of an infinity of creatures with a common defining characteristic that each can eat the next before being eaten by its predecessor, or accept the possibility of a god.

* the economist's defence.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #43 on: 09/09/2022 13:20:16 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 09/09/2022 11:23:43
Yyou now require the actual or possible existence of an infinite number of deophages to meet that target
No, I only need one.
You seem not to understand that it's not a matter of "
Quote from: alancalverd on 09/09/2022 11:23:43
failure to perform
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Their performance is the same as their existence.
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Your target is the nonexistence of god
It's not a target; it's an observation.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #44 on: 09/09/2022 14:28:28 »
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Their performance is the same as their existence.
If only that were true of anything, these days.
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It's not a target; it's an observation.

Then you are wasting your time. Observations do not require proof.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #45 on: 10/09/2022 06:04:36 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 09/09/2022 11:23:43
So you either need to demonstrate the existence and function of an infinity of creatures with a common defining characteristic that each can eat the next before being eaten by its predecessor, or accept the possibility of a god.
Not sure they are cannibalistic. However, wouldn’t you need to prove the existence of god before you could suggest the existence of a creature whose existence depends on it eating gods?
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #46 on: 10/09/2022 10:04:25 »
No. You can build one unprovable hypothesis on another. It's called philosophy, religion, economics, or string theory. They vary in effect from useless to dangerous.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #47 on: 10/09/2022 10:13:06 »
Quote from: Colin2B on 10/09/2022 06:04:36
existence of a creature whose existence depends on it eating gods?
Quote from: Bored chemist on 08/09/2022 18:38:20
The use of  the word "eat" is a metaphor; not sustenance.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #48 on: 14/09/2022 00:37:02 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 08/09/2022 08:35:39
The reason for this is, of course, Colin the God-eating caterpillar.
Colin's defining feature is that he eats and thereby destroys any God in the universe.
For any God to exist, you have to prove the non-existence of Colin.

Can you do that?
This caterpillar story and what follows is the fruit of your delirious halucination.

Quote from: Colin2B on 08/09/2022 08:40:15
I don’t see anything in the replies that could be considered a taboo
More than a tabbo. A diversion from the OP.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #49 on: 14/09/2022 00:40:47 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 10/09/2022 10:04:25
No. You can build one unprovable hypothesis on another. It's called philosophy, religion, economics, or string theory. They vary in effect from useless to dangerous.
I guess string theory is useless compared to theology which can be dangerous.

This is why scientists reserve the right to falsely highlight the non-existence of a God.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #50 on: 14/09/2022 08:46:54 »
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This is why scientists reserve the right to falsely highlight the non-existence of a God.
Why do you say they do it "falsely"?
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #51 on: 14/09/2022 22:37:37 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/09/2022 08:46:54
Why do you say they do it "falsely"?
e.g
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an entity which doesn't exist.
Calumny.

This is why scientists reserve the right to falsely highlight the non-existence of a God because theology can be dangerous.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #52 on: 14/09/2022 22:48:18 »
Back to the OP.

In France if you are against the idea of ​​Zionism, then you are accused of anti-Semitism. You are therefore obliged to endorse Zionism. [fr] https://www.lepoint.fr/debats/l-antisionisme-est-bien-un-antisemitisme-24-05-2021-2427846_2.php

Angolsaxon side it's just in discussion. [en] https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/is-anti-zionism-anti-semitism

Quote from: Colin2B on 08/09/2022 08:40:15
What taboo? I don’t see anything in the replies that could be considered a taboo
Let's go then...😜
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #53 on: 14/09/2022 22:59:58 »
I contest land on earth at the expense of gaining a galaxy to be able to accommodate all living beings on different planets.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #54 on: 14/09/2022 23:00:32 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 14/09/2022 22:37:37
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/09/2022 08:46:54
Why do you say they do it "falsely"?
e.g
Quote from: Bored chemist on 03/09/2022 11:13:07
an entity which doesn't exist.
Calumny.

This is why scientists reserve the right to falsely highlight the non-existence of a God because theology can be dangerous.
You didn't answer the question.
Why do you say it's done falsely?
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #55 on: 14/09/2022 23:03:08 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 14/09/2022 00:37:02
This caterpillar story and what follows is the fruit of your delirious halucination.
No. It's a perfectly respectable theological point.
God can't exist becasuse of Colin.
So, before you talk of God, you need to prove Colin's absence.
But you can't.

You just say you think it's an hallucination.
You don't realise that your God is the hallucination.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #56 on: 14/09/2022 23:18:49 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/09/2022 23:03:08
You don't realise that your God is the hallucination.
Poor Bored... My God is that of the USA. Yes dear friend in God we trust.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #57 on: 15/09/2022 08:34:48 »
It's sad that some people can not accept Colin.
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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #58 on: 17/09/2022 06:09:56 »
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It's sad that some people can not accept Colin.
Your Colin who eats the Gods is big nonsense. So yes I refute this stuff. It's so unfounded that when you type on your search engine 'Colin who eats the Gods' you come across this thread. So your God-eating Colin doesn't exist.

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Re: It was promised and under oath to have a galaxy to those who were to inherit it
« Reply #59 on: 17/09/2022 11:54:35 »
So, the basis on which you say he doesn't exist, is the Google found him.
You will need to do better than that.

Just claiming "it's nonsense" is not a valid argument, is it?
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