[alancalverd]

There is no requirement for a planet to have a magnetic field, nor for that field to correlate with the planet's spin axis or orbital axis. There is no relation between magnetism and gravitation.

But we are diverting attention from the development of your wonderful machine, and my backers are wondering whether to invest in something else. Pity, because your potential profit is unlimited.

[Bored chemist]

Did light move closer to the Sun because it is also magnetic? It's well known that magnetic fields can control that which is electromagnetic in nature.
 And with space which basically has no resistance, how much force would it take to change something's motion?

"Did light move closer to the Sun because it is also magnetic?"
No.
We know about the effect of magnetic fields on light and, in a vacuum, it's zero.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_effect

" And with space which basically has no resistance, how much force would it take to change something's motion?"
The force needed to change the movement of something (in a given time) is dependent on the mass of the thing, not teh surroundings.


By the way, do you plan to actually address the fact that you haven't shown that this
"Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops"
actually happens?
Or are you going to continue to argue about why unicorns prefer chocolate ice cream to vanilla?

[alancalverd]

The force needed to change the movement of something (in a given time) is dependent on the mass of the thing, not teh surroundings.

Pity nobody told the common eel or the US Navy that. They have wasted millions of years of evolution and billions of dollars, respectively, reducing the viscosity of their surroundings, to no avail.

[JLindgaard (OP)]

 There are some people in Europe who want to see a working build. It might help with Europe's energy shortage.
In this video, it shows it would've worked if I allowed the retraction to be released by the weight rolling outward. I decided to do a nicer build

A working sequence is looped. And when you watch the video, do you notice how hard the wheel jerks when it stops? How much lost energy is that?

 Before the planets around the Sun were planets, what were they? Or were they always planets? And just as their is a relationship between the atmospheric pressures of Venus, Earth and Mars, there is also a mathematical relationship to their orbits around the Sun. In Earth days, Venus - 224, Earth -  368.48 and Mars 688.8.
Actual orbits, 224, 365.25 and 686.68
 Can anyone figure out the math formula I used?

 As for gravity, I have said I support a flow of gravitons which could have an electric/magnetic component such as being phonovoltaic. Electrons have a wave/particle duality. Are you sure that a planet's or the Sun's spin helps to cause a magnetic field? The Earth's magnetic field seems to be in agreement with the kinetic energy of its rotation. Why there is no magnetosphere above either pole.

[Kartazion]

@JLindgaard The planets orbit on the circumference of the circle where at its center is the gravitational source. For example at the end of the radius of Schwarzschild geodesics. As your wheel escapes gravity and at the same time gets closer to it (retraction). This is not the case of the orbits of the planets which are always at the same distance from the source of the center of gravity.

[Kartazion]

Before the planets around the Sun were planets, what were they? Or were they always planets?

they were created from fragments that agglomerated and from the asteroid belt.

And just as their is a relationship between the atmospheric pressures of Venus, Earth and Mars, there is also a mathematical relationship to their orbits around the Sun.

Your experience don't takes place in a vacuum with your wheel. So the atmospheric pressure...

[JLindgaard (OP)]

 I made this video with you guys in mind. You'll notice the axle at the moment has no support.

I demonstrate how an outside for (a retraction line) changes the motion of the weight. The distance
from the stationary fulcrum to the weight does not change. The work performed is the wheel rotating.
And physical testing shows that this can work. Kind of why......
 And I am pursuing an experiment in atmospheric chemistry. I think I'll be able to explain why the
tropopause is a cold air inversion layer which even keeps stratospheric gasses that cool out of it.
This would help to support my working hypothesis. And a successful experiment would support why
I think the tropopause is the way it is. Then atmospheric chemistry might need to consider astrophysics.

[Kartazion]

It's anything but elegant. Your wheel is also misshapen. What I saw was a wheel that didn't turn.

[Origin]

In this video, it shows it would've worked if I allowed the retraction to be released by the weight rolling outward. I decided to do a nicer build

An animation is useless.  I can make an animation of a cow living on the moon.  It proves nothing.

[Deecart]

For sure we can use gravity to gain energy.
Look at the space elevator.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator

Almost every scientist actually agree with this.

You can climb the tether toward the sky and the tether stay straight "without countereaction", the centrifuge force aiutomaticaly pull the tether straight away (Noether is here out of date...).
You climb the tether but you dont have to change the couterweight position using any energy.
So yes, because they agree this, we must understand that almost every scientist actually agree that we can gain energy from gravity.

[Kartazion]

we must understand that almost every scientist actually agree that we can gain energy from gravity.

Its name is gravitational energy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_energy

Potential energy is possible only when it has been "charged" with energy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_battery

[Deecart]

Its name is gravitational energy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_energy

It is not, but i agree that you can be confused with that.

Potential energy is possible only when it has been "charged" with energy.

I know it since i was 8 years old.
Then when i was 9 years old i invented the balance attracted by some magnet, pulling some antimagnetic matter (not letting magnetism to go trought) between the magnet and the weight of the balance. So we have the weight pulling back and so forth.
Of course this "antimagnetic matter" doesent exist and if we use normal matter we would need the same amount of energy to couteract the gain of the weigth by putting the matter between the weight and the magnet. That is what i discovered when i was 10 years old.

Recently (because i like to think like a 10 year old child) i found the way to create a rotating wheel attracted and repelled by magnets, with a gain of speed (and power).
The condition is to be able to invert the north and the south pole of the magnet without energy loss.
This Gedankenexperiment permit me to postulate the impossibility to reverse magnetic poles without energy use... (yes i am not a 10 years old kid anymore).

This is what i like with these free energy machines, it permit to understand physic further just by using postulates..

[Kartazion]

It is not, but i agree that you can be confused with that.

Gravitational energy or gravitational potential energy are the same and is the potential energy a massive object.

Or what am I confusing it with?

This is what i like with these free energy machines, it permit to understand physic further just by using postulates..

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Kartazion#/media/File:Gravitational_Oscillator_&_law_of_Conservation_of_Energy_between_Kinetic_Energy_&_Potential_Energy.gif

[JLindgaard (OP)]

 With a wheel, it is torque that needs to be calculated. That allows for acceleration because of gravity.
And Newton's First Law of Motion states;
Every object will remain at rest or in uniform motion in a straight line unless compelled to change its state by the action of an external force.

 The tether that wraps around the disc is an external force (it is not a part of the wheel) and changes the motion of the weight rotating upward. And if this build works like I think it will, then it will show that gravity can do meaningful work.
 Lifting one weight higher than one drops has already been shown. And with how much the wheel shakes when it stops shows it has momentum.

[Bored chemist]

The force needed to change the movement of something (in a given time) is dependent on the mass of the thing, not teh surroundings.

Pity nobody told the common eel or the US Navy that. They have wasted millions of years of evolution and billions of dollars, respectively, reducing the viscosity of their surroundings, to no avail.

Thanks for explaining that you don't understand a net force.
F still equals M A

[Bored chemist]

It might help with Europe's energy shortage

No, it won't.

Can anyone figure out the math formula I used?

Yes. You used numerology or Kepler's laws.

[Bored chemist]

With a wheel, it is torque that needs to be calculated.

With a proposed PM machine, it is energy that needs to be calculated.
That's why I keep asking you to do it.
It won't take long; why don't you do it?

Quote from: Bored chemist on 07/09/2022 21:56:47
Quote from: JLindgaard on 06/09/2022 23:32:21
@Bored chemist, watch the last 5 seconds of the video. What you showed is when I used axle grease. The last 5 seconds shows where I lubricated everything with brake fluid. Brake fluid might actually have more viscosity than 5 wt motor oil.
It's your job to justify your claim and I can't be bothered doing your job for you.
So, if you think you can, you should take "start" and "finish" pictures like I did.
And then do the height measurements.

[Bored chemist]

Then when i was 9 years old i invented the balance attracted by some magnet, pulling some antimagnetic matter (not letting magnetism to go trought) be...
Of course this "antimagnetic matter" doesent exist

Guess again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdiamagnetism

[JLindgaard (OP)]

@Bored chemist, I took a break from working on it. The video shows there is no support for the axle. I have to make tooling and design a mount to hold the other bearings I have. I bought the bearings because I anticipated this might be a problem. If I had a shop, after realizing a design for everything I need to do I could do the work in 1 day. I have a spare room that I am working in. What I have is limited.
 And with me, I think it will work for the same reason the Wright Brothers thought their plane could fly. And interestingly enough, I am from Dayton, Ohio, I served on board the aircraft carrier USS Kitty Hawk and have worked for the Boeing Airplane Company.
 While Bessler was 1/2 Polish and 1/2 German, I am 1/2 Norwegian and 1/2 American. I think this might matter because when people say I was taught this one way how things work, I know another way. The U.S. is a capitalist country while that evil Norway is a socialist country.
 And with history, Bessler was born circa 1680 while Newton published his Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica
in 1687. Bessler would've grown up learning about this new discovery. And since he built windmills, who knows what he saw that inspired him. I mean if you let a bob swing from its fulcrum and have an external force change the motion of the bob, it will swing upward from a lower point with the same energy. Just a basic conservation of momentum example.
 What actually caught my interest is when I had 2 weights at 90º almost rotate 90º. And knowing about Bessler and Newton and conservation of momentum, how to have the weight swing upward move towards the axle with minimal resistance? It is a complicated thought process and if it works you guys will be saying we weren't taught this.

p.s., every job has job qualifications. And for fun, when I was learning to talk I moved to Norway. I started learning to snakk Norske and Engleske at the same time. Going to school in the U.S. when coming from Norway with a Norwegian accent has its drawbacks. There is the right way to think and to talk.

[Colin2B]

…..But we are diverting attention from the development of your wonderful machine, and my backers are wondering whether to invest in something else. Pity, because your potential profit is unlimited.

Agreed, lets not get diverted, I’ll match any investment you make if I see a working model.