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How cold does the planet have to get for the oceans to freeze?

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How cold does the planet have to get for the oceans to freeze?
« on: 11/10/2022 13:03:13 »
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Re: How cold does the planet have to get for the oceans to freeze?
« Reply #1 on: 11/10/2022 13:20:57 »
0°C?

But it will have to be at 0°C for a considerable amount of time for the Oceans to freeze up completely.

Not sure what will happen with geo thermal vents.
Even the warmth from the earth's core would be present.
Also Water Pressure would have to be Accounted for.
Plus the Insulation cover of the ice sheets floating above the Oceans.

Seems like it would have to get really a lot more cooler than just 0°C.
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Re: How cold does the planet have to get for the oceans to freeze?
« Reply #2 on: 11/10/2022 15:41:45 »
Needs to be a bit colder as the freezing point of sea water is around -2°C. However the surface might be covered with fresh water ice at 0°C.
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Re: How cold does the planet have to get for the oceans to freeze?
« Reply #3 on: 11/10/2022 16:28:58 »
If you could chill all the "high ground" to 0C then eventually, all the water would end up there (and the salt would be left in the "ocean" basins.)

Obviously, because there's no possible mechanism for any of this, its just philosophy and Alan will despise it.
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Re: How cold does the planet have to get for the oceans to freeze?
« Reply #4 on: 11/10/2022 17:31:02 »
Despite the lack of any possible mechanism, there have been several ice ages, the Arctic ocean and a fair bit of the Southern ocean remain frozen, and there are bits of ancient salty seabed all over Australia.  Must be something wrong with physics - surely philosophy cannot lie!
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Re: How cold does the planet have to get for the oceans to freeze?
« Reply #5 on: 11/10/2022 18:17:40 »
Pseudo...by Frozen did you mean just the Surface?
Or like Completely frozen all the way thru to the Bottom?

P.S. - You won't reply isn't it...lol
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Re: How cold does the planet have to get for the oceans to freeze?
« Reply #6 on: 13/10/2022 21:27:02 »
Ocean water freezes just like freshwater, but at lower temperatures. Fresh water freezes at 32 degrees Fahrenheit but seawater freezes at about 28.4 degrees Fahrenheit, because of the salt in it. https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/oceanfreeze.html

Formula:   (28.4°F − 32) × 5/9 = -2°C.
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Re: How cold does the planet have to get for the oceans to freeze?
« Reply #7 on: 13/10/2022 23:12:25 »
Quote from: remotemass on 13/10/2022 21:27:02
Ocean water freezes just like freshwater, but at lower temperatures. Fresh water freezes at 32 degrees Fahrenheit but seawater freezes at about 28.4 degrees Fahrenheit, because of the salt in it. https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/oceanfreeze.html

Formula:   (28.4°F − 32) × 5/9 = -2°C.

Would you like to list the people who read through the thread, but were not aware of that?
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Re: How cold does the planet have to get for the oceans to freeze?
« Reply #8 on: 14/10/2022 21:47:57 »
I bet the main question would be when the freezing "apocalypse" will happen.
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Re: How cold does the planet have to get for the oceans to freeze?
« Reply #9 on: 14/10/2022 22:43:54 »
We can expect the temperature decline to begin in about 100 - 500 years and to continue for the next 100,000 years.
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Re: How cold does the planet have to get for the oceans to freeze?
« Reply #10 on: 15/10/2022 00:35:43 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 14/10/2022 22:43:54
We can expect the temperature decline to begin in about 100 - 500 years and to continue for the next 100,000 years.
Do you sell nuclear bomb shelters?
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Re: How cold does the planet have to get for the oceans to freeze?
« Reply #11 on: 15/10/2022 11:48:39 »
I have worked on their design and instrumentation but have no stock at present.
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Re: How cold does the planet have to get for the oceans to freeze?
« Reply #12 on: 15/10/2022 13:21:06 »
Wow, it is possible in at least 100 years. It terrifies me...
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Re: How cold does the planet have to get for the oceans to freeze?
« Reply #13 on: 10/11/2022 05:21:07 »
Needs to be a bit colder as the freezing point of sea water is around -2°C. However the surface might be covered with fresh water ice at 0°C. By the time of learning you get to face some difficulties so I suggest you take the  for doing the course and be a professional in your field.
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Re: How cold does the planet have to get for the oceans to freeze?
« Reply #14 on: 14/12/2022 15:44:02 »
-2 C since the freezing point of sea water is slightly low than that of water due to salt content. But this has to be throughout the entire Earth.
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