[DoctorBeaver (OP)]

Taken from http://lifestyle.aol.co.uk/smokers-smoking-at-home-warning/article/20070629001309990007

Smokers are to be asked not to smoke in their own homes to protect council staff, it has been revealed.

Health and safety officers at Liverpool City Council have drawn up plans to request residents not to smoke at least half an hour before their staff visit and to open windows and not light up during a home visit.

The plans are to protect employees from exposure to second-hand smoke. The city council insist the new rules are not a "ban" and they will not be able to force householders to comply.

But if residents insist on smoking at home during a visit from a council employee the visit will be ended and they will be asked to attend a council office - which comes under the UK-wide no smoking ban from July 1.

The new rules will apply to all residents in council houses and private homes (my emphasis) and to all staff visiting homes, including social workers, enforcement officers and planning officers.

The new rules come as one council defended its decision to investigate "odour nuisance" caused by a couple smoking in their own home.

What will be next?

"Please do not keep pets as some of our employees are allergic to pet hairs"

"Please do not keep any alcohol in your home as some of our employees are alcoholics (we are an equal opportunities employer) and are likely to go on a bender"

[paul.fr]

where is the concrete proof for second hand smoking? Anecdotal evidence, yes but concrete proof. I wonder where this will end, just wondering, is smoking still legal?

Hay doc, does the ban cover your stables?

[Mirage]

The smoking ban will be interesting here at work. When it rains the staff who smoke all huddle under the archway which is right by the front door, if not there then there is a fire exit next to that. They shouldn't really smoke there anyway but with the ban coming in, even more so. However the company have bought a shelter for the staff which is around the corner away from the front door. The problem is, the shelter is tiny, can probably only fit two big people under there. Sometimes there can be over 10 people outside smoking. So when it's raining where will they go? What will they do?
Personally I think I'm gonna have a bit of fun with it all, having to tell them to move away from the front door, out of the fire exit area and to move around the corner  []

[paul.fr]

Move along, please. dirty filthy criminal...er, smoker

[DoctorBeaver (OP)]

No because the stables is not open to the public. But were I to say that once a month disabled kids could come to ride my horses then the ban would apply even if I was not charging them to ride.

And here's something else to think about. I run my own businesses and my home is my registered office. Therefore it is classed as a place of work. If I have prospective clients round to see me rather than my visiting them, then I am not allowed to smoke at home.

Similarly, if I am giving a client a lift in my car then neither of us is allowed to smoke even if we both do.

Whether or not you approve of this smoking ban, it has not been thought through at all (how typical of this government). When the knee jerked it threw them onto the bandwagon.

[paul.fr]

Similarly, if I am giving a client a lift in my car then neither of us is allowed to smoke even if we both do.

that is the one that really gets me.

[DoctorBeaver (OP)]

It'll be interesting if the government follows Liverpool council's example. Picture the scene...

Chief inspector: So did you arrest the criminals?
Constable: No sir. We couldn't enter the premises as they were smoking cigarettes.

[paul.fr]

It'll be interesting if the government follows Liverpool council's example. Picture the scene...

Chief inspector: So did you arrest the criminals?
Constable: No sir. We couldn't enter the premises as they were smoking cigarettes.

Put the cigarette down son, and come out quietly. will cigs now be classed as a weapon? lighting up when the council worker comes around, could you eventually get done for attempted ...something.

[DoctorBeaver (OP)]

"Don't come any closer, copper, or I'll light up!"

[DoctorBeaver (OP)]

This reminds me of the Jasper Carrot quip about the difference between British & American cops.

An American cop shouts "Stop or I'll shoot"

A British cops shouts "Stop or I'll shout STOP again"

[paul.fr]

if i remember correctly, prisoners can still smoke in their cells! shurley shome mistake...

[Mirage]

Move along, please. dirty filthy criminal...er, smoker

LOL, I might have to do that  []

If only I could have a uniform like that, they're hot.........if they still had uniforms like that I would become a police officer  []

This reminds me of the Jasper Carrot quip about the difference between British & American cops.

An American cop shouts "Stop or I'll shoot"

A British cops shouts "Stop or I'll shout STOP again"

LOL I love Jasper Carrot

[DoctorBeaver (OP)]

This was questioned in The House recently. I think the reply was along the lines of "We have waffle waffle and when all considerations are taken into blah blah waffle it was decided that the research waffle blah and the indications are therefore blah blah waffle"

[paul.fr]

Dan, if you smoked and got caught and charged, do you realise you could lose your sia licence for just being a smoker.
then you would be out of a job, now that's forward thinking by the government of the people!

[paul.fr]

This was questioned in The House recently. I think the reply was along the lines of "We have waffle waffle and when all considerations are taken into blah blah waffle it was decided that the research waffle blah and the indications are therefore blah blah waffle"

rabble, rabble, rabble...when's lunch

[DoctorBeaver (OP)]

This was questioned in The House recently. I think the reply was along the lines of "We have waffle waffle and when all considerations are taken into blah blah waffle it was decided that the research waffle blah and the indications are therefore blah blah waffle"

rabble, rabble, rabble...when's lunch

Hear hear!

[DoctorBeaver (OP)]

I know we're being flippant about this, but I do find this gradual erosion of liberty very worrying.

[paul.fr]

I know we're being flippant about this, but I do find this gradual erosion of liberty very worrying.

I think this is all we can do, Doc. There is no real people power, we could vote someone else in but would that make a difference? We have very few liberties left, and i suspect i will be cut off before i..........

text removed by HM Government, for anti-government stance

[DoctorBeaver (OP)]

I would vote for anyone who said they would stop nannying me. If they also said they would stop the installation of any more CCTV systems I'd vote for them twice!

[Mirage]

Dan, if you smoked and got caught and charged, do you realise you could lose your sia licence for just being a smoker.
then you would be out of a job, now that's forward thinking by the government of the people!

Oh, that would not be good  []

I'm gonna have to be a little careful while smoking  []