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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #180 on: 12/09/2023 00:45:02 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 11/09/2023 05:30:51
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 11/09/2023 05:21:38
The core of a nuclei is probably hot from density pressure.

It's not. It's in its ground state (usually).
Where are you getting these measurements for the core of the nucleus? How would you go about measuring such a thing?
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #181 on: 12/09/2023 01:41:47 »
Hot things emit radiation. A stable atomic nucleus in its ground state does not, so it isn't hot.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #182 on: 12/09/2023 03:10:59 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 12/09/2023 01:41:47
Hot things emit radiation. A stable atomic nucleus in its ground state does not, so it isn't hot.
Well kryptid we seem to be reading different books and shunning the others. Where is this going? Maybe the topic of fusion? could you explain your idea of it, I won't judge you.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #183 on: 12/09/2023 05:45:30 »
It doesn't have anything to do with fusion. Objects with a nonzero absolute temperature (anything above zero kelvins) emit thermal radiation. An atomic nucleus doesn't. Therefore, an atomic nucleus doesn't have a nonzero temperature.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #184 on: 13/09/2023 09:23:30 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 12/09/2023 05:45:30
It doesn't have anything to do with fusion. Objects with a nonzero absolute temperature (anything above zero kelvins) emit thermal radiation. An atomic nucleus doesn't. Therefore, an atomic nucleus doesn't have a nonzero temperature.
It does have something to do with fusion Kryptid. Where do you think the heat released from a fusion reaction comes from?
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #185 on: 13/09/2023 13:18:57 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 13/09/2023 09:23:30
Where do you think the heat released from a fusion reaction comes from?
The strong nuclear force.

Were you working on the idea that it might be gravity or the electromagnetic force or some other nonsense?
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #186 on: 13/09/2023 23:17:28 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 13/09/2023 13:18:57
The strong nuclear force.

You insult people in a way that no one would ever want to learn from what you post. Everytime you post something its something with two sides that you expect me to oppose. I don't care to even grace my mind against such topics because they are full of sh1t.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #187 on: 14/09/2023 02:29:58 »
This from google
It's true that when you pressurize a material (thus doing work on it), then it heats up; however, it then comes to thermal equilibrium with what's around it. After a while, the bottom of a 10 km vertical tube of water, while under tremendous pressure, would be at room temperature.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #188 on: 14/09/2023 04:22:51 »
Bored Chemist is right. The strong nuclear force is where the heat comes from.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #189 on: 14/09/2023 08:03:36 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 13/09/2023 23:17:28
I don't care to even grace my mind against such topics because they are full of sh1t.
I'm the one telling the truth; the heat from fusion energy is from the strong nuclear force.

If the topic is crappy, don't accuse me of being the one adding the manure.

If you don't like being corrected; make fewer mistakes, or make them elsewhere.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #190 on: 14/09/2023 08:10:28 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 14/09/2023 02:29:58
This from google
It's true that when you pressurize a material (thus doing work on it), then it heats up; however, it then comes to thermal equilibrium with what's around it. After a while, the bottom of a 10 km vertical tube of water, while under tremendous pressure, would be at room temperature.

We have been saying that all along.
But you were talking about some other nonsensical "pressure heat"
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 26/08/2023 23:45:30
internal stationary heat from pressure.

Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 30/08/2023 05:30:14
When you heat something with pressure, its not an endless source of radiating heat. The heat created by the substance remains within the substance,

It seems you finally learned that isn't true.
You should have listened to us earlier.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #191 on: 14/09/2023 22:57:26 »
Two things: what happens to the substance temperature when you take the pressure off?
The core of the earth is going to be under pressure from all sides and the heat that goes to equilibrium on the surface would have nowhere to escape to in the core.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #192 on: 15/09/2023 00:01:11 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 14/09/2023 22:57:26
Two things: what happens to the substance temperature when you take the pressure off?

Depends on what the substance in question is. If it's a gas, it will expand and cool off quickly. If it's a solid, it won't expand very much and will remain roughly the same temperature until the heat is either radiated or conducted away.

Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 14/09/2023 22:57:26
The core of the earth is going to be under pressure from all sides and the heat that goes to equilibrium on the surface would have nowhere to escape to in the core.

It escapes into the surrounding material (the mantle) via conduction and convection. If you are talking about putting the core in a vacuum, then the heat will escape via radiation.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #193 on: 15/09/2023 01:06:28 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 15/09/2023 00:01:11
It escapes into the surrounding material (the mantle) via conduction and convection. If you are talking about putting the core in a vacuum, then the heat will escape via radiation.
The heat expands to a point, it is connected to the core and doesn't convect or other. With or without the heat, the core material acts as a single and produces the extending gravity field. So pressure towards the center closes the proximity of the atom's and creates a gravity field and magnetic field.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #194 on: 15/09/2023 03:17:09 »
That's not right at all.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #195 on: 15/09/2023 04:53:12 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 15/09/2023 03:17:09
That's not right at all.
I'm sorry to have to do this Kryptid but you are banned for one month, which time you will take piano lessons, then we'll meet back here for the competition....
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #196 on: 15/09/2023 05:03:24 »
So we're back to trolling, are we?

EDIT: Actually, you already had two strikes against you. So consider that strike three. If you can't participate in a science discussion like an adult, then you'll need to look elsewhere to talk about it. I gave you a second chance to come back and abide by the rules. It seems that you couldn't do it in the long run.
« Last Edit: 15/09/2023 05:26:01 by Kryptid »
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #197 on: 15/09/2023 20:22:18 »
Strike #3?, does this mean the OP will now be euthanased?
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #198 on: 15/09/2023 21:15:38 »
Quote from: paul cotter on 15/09/2023 20:22:18
Strike #3?, does this mean the OP will now be euthanased?

Yes.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #199 on: 15/09/2023 22:00:10 »
I like that you guys will argue not everything is as simple to throwing logic and common courtesy out the window.
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