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Sleep Experiment Completed 10 Years
« on: 27/12/2023 05:55:52 »
Hello everyone. 

So here I am after my ten year sleep experiment.  Each night for ten years I play the list of downloaded podcasts, starting with the latest one.  I found after a few years that I would even dream of the stuff they were talking about during the podcasts.  So it has been ten years now and I am wondering if all that time listening to science podcasts in my sleep has taught me anything.  I can't recall anything specifically but I do feel I have a pretty good general knowledge of science these days.

Has anything like this been tried before? 
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Re: Sleep Experiment Completed 10 Years
« Reply #1 on: 27/12/2023 16:04:22 »
Quote from: Airthumbs on 27/12/2023 05:55:52
So it has been ten years now and I am wondering if all that time listening to science podcasts in my sleep has taught me anything.  I can't recall anything specifically
There's your answer.
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Re: Sleep Experiment Completed 10 Years
« Reply #2 on: 27/12/2023 19:41:35 »
Thank you for pointing out the absence of specific recall despite my ten-year experiment of listening to science podcasts during sleep. While I can't recall details consciously, I find the subconscious aspect fascinating to consider.

It's well-documented that our subconscious mind can absorb information without conscious awareness. Even if I can't retrieve explicit details, I wonder if this prolonged exposure has subtly shaped my understanding or thought processes regarding scientific concepts.

I'm curious if there's any research indicating the potential for subconscious learning through prolonged auditory exposure during sleep. Perhaps this experiment might have contributed to an intuitive grasp of scientific principles, impacting my problem-solving skills or overall comprehension, albeit without explicit recall.

The idea that subconscious learning might occur despite the lack of conscious memory intrigues me. I'd appreciate any insights or studies that delve into this aspect of learning through auditory stimuli during sleep.

Thank you for engaging in this discussion. I look forward to exploring this topic further.
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Re: Sleep Experiment Completed 10 Years
« Reply #3 on: 27/12/2023 19:48:58 »
Quote from: Airthumbs on 27/12/2023 19:41:35
Thank you for pointing out the absence of specific recall despite my ten-year experiment of listening to science podcasts during sleep.
You stated that you don't recall specifics but that your overall science knowledge has increased.  The problem with your experiment is that there is no control.  I would certainly hope your knowledge of science has increased over 10 years.  The question is, does listening to a podcast in your sleep increase your knowledge of science?  The answer is, without a proper control there is no way to know.
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Re: Sleep Experiment Completed 10 Years
« Reply #4 on: 28/12/2023 05:59:31 »
I recall a time when this forum had a lot of positivity and some really creative imaginative replies to genuine questions, sadly it seems that is not the case anymore.  I feel like I am being stalked by a troll whose only intent is to try and ridicule anything I add to this forum.  ORGIIN!!!   

The following text is taken from a website and I feel I have been pressured into this by the above mentioned individual who seems to have a habit of provoking people by trying to ridicule them.

Sleep learning: From sham to science
The concept of sleep learning, or hypnopedia, has a long history. The first study to demonstrate a memory and learning benefit from sleep was published in 1914 by German psychologist Rosa Heine. She found that learning new material in the evening before sleep results in better recall compared to learning during the day.

Thanks to many studies done since then, we now know that sleep is crucial for forming long-term memories of what we have encountered during the day. The sleeping brain replays the day's experiences and stabilizes them by moving them from the hippocampus, where they are first formed, to regions across the brain. Given that so much is happening to memories during sleep, it's natural to ask if the memories can be altered, enhanced or even formed anew.

One popular approach to sleep learning was Psycho-phone, a popular device in the 1930s. It played out motivational messages to sleepers, such as "I radiate love," supposedly helping the people absorb the ideas in their subconscious and wake up with radiant confidence.

At first, it seemed that research backed up the idea behind devices like Psycho-phone. Some early studies found that people learned the material they encountered during sleep. But those findings were debunked in the 1950s, when scientists began to use EEG to monitor sleep brain waves. Researchers found that if any learning had happened, it was only because the stimuli had woken the participants. These poor studies launched sleep learning into the trash can of pseudoscience.

But in recent years, studies have found that the brain may not be a total blob during sleep. These findings suggest that it is possible for the sleeping brain to absorb information and even form new memories. The catch, however, is that the memories are implicit, or unconscious. Put another way, this form of learning is extremely basic, much simpler than what your brain has to accomplish if you want to learn German or quantum mechanics.

Still, these findings have elevated sleep learning from the category of pipe dreams and put it back on scientists' radar.

"For decades the scientific literature was saying sleep learning was impossible. So, even seeing the most basic form of learning is interesting for a scientist," said Thomas Andrillon, a neuroscientist at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia. "But people are not really interested in this basic form of learning."

For scientists, the recent discoveries have raised hopes about possible applications, Andrillon told Live Science. For example, the implicit nature of sleep learning makes the phenomenon useful for people who want to shed a bad habit, like smoking, or form new good ones.
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Re: Sleep Experiment Completed 10 Years
« Reply #5 on: 29/12/2023 16:42:22 »
From Wikipedia on sleep learning:
Sleep-learning (also known as hypnop?dia or hypnopedia) is an attempt to convey information to a sleeping person, typically by playing a sound recording to them while they sleep. Although sleep is considered an important period for memory consolidation,[1] scientific research has concluded that sleep-learning is not possible. It appears frequently in fiction.

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Re: Sleep Experiment Completed 10 Years
« Reply #6 on: 29/12/2023 17:01:18 »
If you don't want negative feedback you can put me on ignore and then you can write any incorrect thing you want without seeing my correction.
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Re: Sleep Experiment Completed 10 Years
« Reply #7 on: 29/12/2023 21:23:16 »
I once tried listening to a science podcast to help me go to sleep.
But it was so interesting I couldn't go to sleep...
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Re: Sleep Experiment Completed 10 Years
« Reply #8 on: 04/01/2024 20:13:59 »
@Air

" Recent research demonstrates that learning during sleep is possible, but that sleep-learning invariably produces memory traces that are consciously inaccessible in the awake state. Thus, sleep-learning can likely exert implicit, but not explicit, influences on awake behavior. "

Source - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31954628/

ps - the webpage contains a few more links at the bottom which you may or may not find helpful.
Anyways, GoodNite & SweetDreamz!
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