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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #100 on: 03/06/2024 17:38:31 »
That is precisely why I used such an example. This being a science forum we are interested in science, not philosophy. Water will affect fire but that does not mean they are related, one being a material and the other a combustion phenomenon. Similarly gravity affects em radiation but they are NOT related.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #101 on: 04/06/2024 05:06:36 »
I dedicated this thread for non-technical discussion. If you are interested in further discussion on technical issues, let's do it in the original thread, by following the link below.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 04/06/2024 05:01:51
Quote from: paul cotter on 03/06/2024 17:38:31
That is precisely why I used such an example. This being a science forum we are interested in science, not philosophy. Water will affect fire but that does not mean they are related, one being a material and the other a combustion phenomenon. Similarly gravity affects em radiation but they are NOT related.
I bring the discussion from my other thread, so we can go deeper on technical issues.
How do you explain positive result in my electrodynamic balance experiments?
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #102 on: 06/06/2024 05:36:02 »
I asked Gemini about an interesting quote.
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This quote, "Everyone knew it was impossible, until a fool who didn't know came along and did it," is often mistakenly attributed to Albert Einstein. There's no evidence he actually said it [Quote Investigator].

The saying likely originated anonymously and has been circulating for some time.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #103 on: 06/06/2024 06:41:09 »
I do not claim to be an expert on em phenomena, I am sufficiently knowledgeable to have made a living from engineering but that is my limit. To seriously challenge standard theories one needs explicit and extensive understanding of the subject matter- I don't believe either of us is in that category.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #104 on: 06/06/2024 10:47:37 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 06/06/2024 05:36:02
The saying likely originated anonymously and has been circulating for some time.
Typical bullshit from a chatbot. Statements cannot originate anonymously (everyone has a name) but are often quoted as such.
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To seriously challenge standard theories one need explicit and extensive understanding of the subject matter-
Or an interestingly anomalous discovery. HY claims to have made a few but so far his elegant experiments (I acknowledge practical genius) have all yielded to textbook explanations.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #105 on: 06/06/2024 11:13:43 »
I stand corrected, thanks Alan.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #106 on: 06/06/2024 11:48:50 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 06/06/2024 10:47:37
Statements cannot originate anonymously (everyone has a name) but are often quoted as such.
But they can be published anonymously, especially when the author doesn't want his name to be associated with those statements, eg when they are considered controversial.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #107 on: 07/06/2024 01:16:19 »
And your chatbot doesn't seem to know the difference between originating and publishing.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #108 on: 07/06/2024 06:06:51 »
If a statement isn't published (in broad sense, which simply means it's made to be known by the public), or it's kept in private, we won't be able to discuss it publicly.
In the age of generative AI, every possible arrangements of words to form a statement could be produced anytime somewhere in the internet. It may not be important anymore which AI model produced it first, or who's the person who noticed it first.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #109 on: 07/06/2024 13:02:13 »
You can get your knowledge from literature. You can collect a lot of condensed information with relatively low effort, based on experience of other people in the past. But this kind of knowledge is limited by their experience, and no new knowledge can be produced, other than what's already revealed by someone else. You also tend to follow their mistakes.

Alternatively, you can also get your knowledge from your own experience. It takes more effort to obtain useful information. You need to filter out noise from signal. You may need to produce your own instrumentation equipment, and it can cost significantly.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #110 on: 07/06/2024 17:11:28 »
That's science.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #111 on: 10/06/2024 11:10:01 »
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #112 on: 10/06/2024 14:01:37 »
Studying Physics Without Studying Physics - Can You Do It On Your Own?
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You have to go to university to study physics. Or do you?
Is there any way to self-teach, to study physics without having to study physics?

Content:
0:00 Intro - Could you?
1:42 It?s crazy how much you could do
4:11 It?s important to understand you need others
7:25 Still, could you do it?

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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #113 on: 10/06/2024 17:32:37 »
There's no need to attend a university to study physics, but I rather think you have to study physics to understand physics. 

Studying chemistry, for instance, might (should!) make you curious about some applications of physics but it won't help you calculate centrifugal force or magnetic fields. And I doubt whether time spent reading Shakespeare or Sanskrit texts would bring you any closer to understanding why the moon is where it is.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #114 on: 11/06/2024 08:45:02 »
The Most Cited Paper of the Decade ? Can We Learn from It?

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?Adam: A Method for Stochastic Optimization? ? is one of the most highly cited papers ever published. Moreover, this paper was written in 2014 by two PhD students! Let?s see why it became so popular and if we can learn anything from it.

00:00 Incredible number of citations
02:37 Authors of the ?Adam? paper
04:40 What is Adam method?
05:26 Let?s check the paper!
10:10 Can we learn from it?
10:38 YES
12:26 NO
13:52 Other highly cited papers
14:49 ?Adam? is an unusual paper
16:02 Attitude to research
17:15 Other features

I haven't written any formal scientific paper for years, so I guess it's time to relearn it.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #115 on: 16/06/2024 13:45:30 »
I googled my name, and found my LinkedIn profile. I also found my Facebook page, which is mostly inactive.
I also looked for "hamdani yusuf lomba penelitian ilmiah remaja 1996", which returns some links to online libraries.

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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #116 on: 30/06/2024 15:11:25 »
The book is a collection of scientific papers winning the Youth Scientific Research Competition 1996. I haven't read the physical book myself, even though I won the first place that year. Instead, I've already read some earlier editions from mid 80's to early 90's from a used bookstore near my school when I was still in junior high school. I guess it gave me a head start to prepare for the competition.
In 1995 I read an invitation to participate in the competition from the bulletin board in my high school, and decided to join in.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #117 on: 06/07/2024 09:16:11 »
I've learned the hard way.
Why Facts Don't Change Minds
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We often get into arguments with one another for millions of different reasons, but how often do we genuinely change the other persons mind? Most times, facts don't change minds. But if facts don't change minds, what does?
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« Reply #118 on: 06/07/2024 09:56:48 »
How to Change Someone?s Mind - 5 Rules to Follow
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« Reply #119 on: 06/07/2024 09:58:19 »
How can you change someone's mind? (hint: facts aren't always enough) - Hugo Mercier
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Why do arguments change people?s minds in some cases and backfire in others? Hugo Mercier explains how arguments are more convincing when they rest on a good knowledge of the audience, taking into account what the audience believes, who they trust, and what they value.
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