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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #200 on: 18/11/2024 15:59:16 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 16/11/2024 22:55:40
No. Evolution is not a theory.

Darwin's theory is of speciation and does not suggest the underlying mechanism of evolution, merely that circumstance may favor the survival of particular characteristics.

The Lamarckian theory of the mechanism of evolution lacks any rationale or evidence.
Why can't it be both?
There are facts of electromagnetism, and there are theories of electromagnetism.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #201 on: 18/11/2024 16:02:13 »
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #202 on: 18/11/2024 22:16:23 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 18/11/2024 15:59:16
Why can't it be both?
Because it isn't. We know it happens (fact known to everyone, for ever) and when it happens, we observe changes in DNA codes (fact discovered in my lifetime). But there is (so far) no usefully predictive theory that tells us what to expect when an organism evolves.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #203 on: 18/11/2024 22:18:09 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 18/11/2024 16:02:13
scientific work is becoming more disruptive.
It is supposed to be. There's no point in confirming what you already know. The value of research is the extent to which the result surprises you.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #204 on: 19/11/2024 10:53:38 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 18/11/2024 22:16:23
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 18/11/2024 15:59:16
Why can't it be both?
Because it isn't. We know it happens (fact known to everyone, for ever) and when it happens, we observe changes in DNA codes (fact discovered in my lifetime). But there is (so far) no usefully predictive theory that tells us what to expect when an organism evolves.
Things like glyphosate resistance were predicted.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #205 on: 19/11/2024 12:00:07 »
I guess it's a reasonable expectation that some mutants might prosper where the majority fail, and that's certainly the case for bacteria, but you'd be hard pressed to describe the survivor's DNA in advance of finding it.

If you have a toxin that targets a particular byte of genetic code, obviously any survivors wouldn't have that byte in a vulnerable form, but what else would be predictably different? And since that difference was present and statistically insignificant previously (we are talking about survivors, not new creations) does resistance mean the evolution of a new species, or just selection within an existing one?
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #206 on: 19/11/2024 14:37:29 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 18/11/2024 22:16:23
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 18/11/2024 15:59:16
Why can't it be both?
Because it isn't. We know it happens (fact known to everyone, for ever) and when it happens, we observe changes in DNA codes (fact discovered in my lifetime). But there is (so far) no usefully predictive theory that tells us what to expect when an organism evolves.
Georgia can be the name of a state. It can also be the name of a country.
Likewise, evolution can be the name of some set of facts. It can also be the name of some theories.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #207 on: 19/11/2024 14:46:16 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 18/11/2024 22:18:09
There's no point in confirming what you already know. The value of research is the extent to which the result surprises you.
Some research is still necessary to convince the sceptics. They need more accessible evidence, something that they can relate to what they already know.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #208 on: 20/11/2024 09:34:19 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 19/11/2024 14:37:29
Likewise, evolution can be the name of some set of facts. It can also be the name of some theories.

There's a big difference between "can be" and "is".

As I live in England, have played for an English club, and have not had a trial for any other national side, I can be a Test cricketer. But I'm not and never will be. 
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #209 on: 20/11/2024 09:36:41 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 19/11/2024 14:46:16
Some research is still necessary to convince the sceptics.
Dangerous point of view! The business of science is scepticism!

Policy-based evidence-making may result in the extermination of homo sapiens.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #210 on: 20/11/2024 11:15:24 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 18/11/2024 22:18:09
It is supposed to be. There's no point in confirming what you already know.
Are you familiar with the story of Galileo dropping things from the Tower of Pisa?

He knew from a thought-experiment what the outcome would be...
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #211 on: 20/11/2024 12:11:44 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 20/11/2024 09:36:41
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 19/11/2024 14:46:16
Some research is still necessary to convince the sceptics.
Dangerous point of view! The business of science is scepticism!

Policy-based evidence-making may result in the extermination of homo sapiens.
How do you make decisions without being convinced about the expected results first?
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #212 on: 20/11/2024 12:25:10 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 14/02/2024 12:41:23
Like most people, I learned about science, technology, and philosophy from school/college, textbooks, and online sources, including wikipedia, quora, science web sites, and science forums.
I have to admit that chatbots are also my information sources now. They can save time to search and read TLDR documents, but verification and cross checks are still necessary.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #213 on: 20/11/2024 14:36:40 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 20/11/2024 12:11:44
How do you make decisions without being convinced about the expected results first?

Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 24/05/2024 13:50:39
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #214 on: 20/11/2024 15:32:24 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 18/05/2024 13:00:44
There are many questions I want to find out the answers, but I only have finite time to pursue them. For now, I'll just focus on a few of them, based on their importance/significance of their impacts, how much efforts are required, and how close or how likely I think I have the chance to solve them.
Here's an updated task list, sorted for the importance to future society.
Identifying the universal terminal goal.
Identifying the universal moral standard.
Building an accurate and precise virtual universe, which includes:
Unifying gravity and electromagnetism in a physical model.
Building a more intuitive model to describe propagation of light and how it interacts with matter.
Solving some long standing math problems like Riemann Riemann' hypothesis and Cantor's continuum hypothesis.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #215 on: 22/11/2024 10:19:05 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 20/11/2024 14:36:40
High voltage, high current and high frequency (65000Hz) through the body of Dr Irwin Moon!!!
High current through the body? I think not. Skin effect is significant at 65 kHz and any current greater than 10 mA through the heart can be fatal.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #216 on: 22/11/2024 10:22:50 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 20/11/2024 12:11:44
How do you make decisions without being convinced about the expected results first?
Only economists and politicians are convinced about the results before doing the experiment. And they blame everyone else if it turns out wrong.

Good recent example after the UK election whitewash: every Tory politician interviewed on the radio said he was let down by the Party, and every Party agent said they were let down by the politicians.
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Re: Where do I get my confidence to challenge established theories?
« Reply #217 on: 22/11/2024 10:25:42 »
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He knew from a thought-experiment what the outcome would be...
And Aristotle, the Pope, and everyone else, knew from a thought-experiment that it would be something else. The difference is that Galileo did an actual experiment that could have disproved his theory - that's science.
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« Reply #218 on: 27/11/2024 08:43:08 »
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He knew from a thought-experiment what the outcome would be...
And Aristotle, the Pope, and everyone else, knew from a thought-experiment that it would be something else. The difference is that Galileo did an actual experiment that could have disproved his theory - that's science.
That's why physical experiments are still needed.
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