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What is an insult?
« on: 27/03/2025 13:31:52 »
Hi,

 - What is an insult?

 - An insult is something after which one goes into an "I am not okay" state.

An insult is "taken", it is not "given".

- - -

There are two parties, so, there are four situations according to Dr. Eric Berne:

 (1) I am okay - You are okay;

 (2) I am okay - You are not okay;

 (3) I am not okay - You are okay;

 (4) I am not okay - You are not okay.
 
- - -

/to sum up

Dr. Eric Berne: transaction, hunger (food), the four states, ... , the games, the destiny.


Dr. Eric Berne - Games People Play - The Practice Part 1


Dr. Eric Berne - Games People Play - The Practice Part 2


- - -

Let's take (2) which is weaponised in society:

I am good - You are bad;

I am free - You are a slave;

I am a citizen - You are a second class citizen;

I am a human - You are an animal (you have no rights in my society);

...

= = =


The Emperor's Club (2002)

The senator Bell is right. His son is right.

William Hundert, the teacher, is not right. He does not understand power.


= = =


I'm Being Repressed! Monty Python and the Holy Grail with subtitles

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How Accurate is Monty Python's Anarcho-Syndicalist Peasant Scene?

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Re: What is an insult?
« Reply #1 on: 27/03/2025 13:51:02 »

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Welcome to the Private Police | A Bit of Fry and Laurie | BBC


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Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things.

Henri Poincare
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Re: What is an insult?
« Reply #2 on: 31/03/2025 10:15:38 »

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media (n.)
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=media

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from the comments of "How Accurate is Monty Python's Anarcho-Syndicalist Peasant Scene?"


@RicktheCrofter

Here what I see is often missed in this scene. The two peasants are muckrakers. They are gathering manure to sell as fertilizer. This is called muckraking.
However, in modern times muckraking has anew meaning. Journalists who dig up dirt on politicians, expose corruption, etc, are also called muckrakers.
So, the two peasants are literally muckrakers, in the older definition of the word.
However, they are also muckrakers in the modern definition of the word, in they are exposing the violence inherent in the system.

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Who reads the papers? - Yes, Prime Minister - BBC comedy


= = =

...

c (k, s)

i, j,

...

u, v, w,

x, y, z

u
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=u

v
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=v

w
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=w

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Latin alphabet comes from Greek as does Cyrillic.

X, y, z are considered Greek letters.

-

-ise   vs.  -ize
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=-ize

British spelling is more consistent.


= = =

John has done ... . (done past passive participle, used as a "name")

John is done ... . (done past active participle)
/like in "John is done." - "John has finished eating."

In both cases, is/has has the exact moment and done has the not_exact moment.


- - -


In Russian:

John done ... .(done past active participle, used as past tense form of the verb)

equals to

John did ... . (past tense in English)

-

John (is) done ... . (done past active participle; the present finite form of be is omitted)

equals to

John has done ... . (the present perfect tense)


so


Russians use

"John done ... ."

both for

past simple

and

present perfect.


= = =

If Spanish people, Italian people, French people, German people, Polish people, Russian people, ... knew the basics of their language, then English language would be a piece of cake.

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Re: What is an insult?
« Reply #3 on: 04/04/2025 11:54:20 »
 ...

(2) I am okay - You are not okay;

The Fox and The Stork, Aesop fable

https://fablesofaesop.com/the-fox-and-the-stork.html


humiliation (n.)
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=humiliation

- - -

Raging Bull (1980) is not a boxing movie.

(3) I am not okay - You are okay;

 Jake and Vickie, from Jake La Motta's point of view 

 
= = =

past participle - how slick is the name, not a hint of active nor passive

Intransitive verbs like go should not have past passive participle.


And yet, "John has gone to ... ." ...
 
/gone after have is a past passive participle


Past "passive" participle of an intransitive verb is a formality.


= = =

ALF, Looking for Lucky, S1, Ep3


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Re: What is an insult?
« Reply #4 on: 04/04/2025 14:05:07 »
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 (1) I am okay - You are okay;



Anyway,
The Paradoxical Commandments
by Kent M. Keith


People are illogical, unreasonable, and self-centered.
Love them anyway.

. . .

https://www.kentmkeith.com/paradoxicalcommandments



= = =


Science in school is propagandised.

One leaves school with more questions than answers.

Propaganda breaks lives.

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Re: What is an insult?
« Reply #5 on: 13/04/2025 12:16:44 »
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= = =

British English

defence

American English

defense

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defense (n.)
https://www.etymonline.com/word/defense

...
Middle English defens was assimilated into defense, but not before it inspired the alternative spelling defence, via the same tendency that produced hence (hennis), pence (penies), dunce (Duns). Webster made the -se form standard in U.S., but British has preferred defence, and compare fence (n.).
...

= = =

Q - "soft", "feminine"  -  Queen

K - "hard", "masculine"  - King

-

queue (n.)
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=queue

q - "soft"

u - "hard sign"

qu - "hard"

eu [ju], e - "soft sign"

qu + eu + e

/a word can't end in i, u
/a word can end in a consonant letter, an open vowel letter (a, e, o), y and w

-

 -ii-

and

 -vv-

does not look proper in English (except for " "foreign words" ": ski - skiing; Hawaii, ... ).

So

savy (not savvy)
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=savvy
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/savvy

as in

privy, ...
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=privy

= = =

instrumental case




lest (conj.)
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=lest

?y l?s ?e

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the more the merrier
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=the%20more%20the%20merrier

...
The more the merrier "the larger the company the greater the enjoyment" is from late 14c. (?e mo ?e myryer).

?e mo ?e myryer


- - -

the 3rd person pronoun, the demonstrative pronoun, the definite article...

Pronouns have grammatical cases. The "definite article" replaced the pronoun.

The meaning of instrumental  case in English has been lost.

-

...
And those pictures on your desk
All them lies that you abuse
Do they know you suffer
From the Bensonhurst blues

https://genius.com/Oscar-benton-bensonhurst-blues-lyrics

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In Russian, lest, the more the merrier, ... exist and have meaning.

= = =

Joe Dassin "Et si tu n'existais pas"

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Re: What is an insult?
« Reply #6 on: 13/04/2025 12:51:17 »
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a word can't end in i, u

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Re: What is an insult?
« Reply #7 on: 13/04/2025 13:48:08 »
Are you a caribou?
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Re: What is an insult?
« Reply #8 on: 13/04/2025 14:02:00 »
...

https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/9sc9py/eli5_why_do_exceptions_confirm_the_rule/?rdt=57820

ELI5: Why do exceptions confirm the rule?

samstown23

It's actually slightly misleading. An exception doesn't make the rule "more valid" or anything, the existence of an exception merely proves that there is an actual rule in the first place.

It's the principle of exceptio probat regulam in casibus non exceptis (the exception tests the rule in cases not excepted), e.g. a sign saying "No parking on Mondays". It implies that there is a rule (parking is allowed) and Mondays are simply an exception to that rule.

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malcoth0

Besides u/samstown23 's point, there is also a linguistic one: proving meant 'testing' before, i.e. a proving ground was where people's skills were tested.

"the exception proves the rule" once meant that any exception tests the rule - too many exeptions or to big ones, and the rule is broken.

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Renmauzuo

Sometimes an exception to a rule is given without the rule itself being explicitly stated. In that case the existence of the exception implies the existence of a rule, as if there was no rule there would be no need for an exception.

For example, consider a sign that says "No parking on Sundays." The existence of the Sunday exceptions proves that you can park on other days, because if you couldn't there would be no need for an explicit exception.

Another would might be a dress code rule that says "Casual clothes allowed on Fridays." This implies a rule that casual clothes are not allowed on other days, because if you could wear casual clothes on any day there would be no need for an exception allowing them on a given day.



= = =

It is not about right  and wrong.

/outside of the box, on another level, ...

euphemism (n.)
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=eufemism


It is not intellectual.

It is random, it happens.


= = =


Joe Dassin "Les Champs-Elys?es"


= = =

Platonism or Formalism?!

Invented or discovered?!

The Continuum Hypothesis - The Problem that BROKE Mathematics

 sexy, smart (the new sexy), for money


Sometimes it is a bit too much.
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Re: What is an insult?
« Reply #9 on: 15/04/2025 10:30:25 »
...

The Master and Margarita, by Mikhail Bulgakov,

is a book about power (creation, annihilation and managing life).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Master_and_Margarita

The events in the book take place in the week before Passover, the Holy Week.

-

In Christian tradition, the Four Evangelists are Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, the authors attributed with the creation of the four canonical Gospel accounts. In the New Testament, they bear the following titles: the Gospel of Matthew; the Gospel of Mark; the Gospel of Luke; and the Gospel of John.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Evangelists


The Jerusalem plot of the novel is later revealed to be the novel written by the Master,
commissioned  (paid) by Woland (the Devil).

The Master created the Gospel of Devil.


/M upside down is W
/The Master is an instrument of Woland, the Devil

Devil can't create. God can create and a man can create.

That is why Devil needs a man (the Devil needs the man's soul).

-

The ruler of the state and the author knew each other.

Both understood religion.

The author sent a (political) message,
the message was understood,
the book was banned.


-

https://files.libcom.org/files/eben002_mastermargarita_pevear.pdf

"...

'But here is a question that is troubling me: if there is no God, then, one may ask, who
governs human life and, in general, the whole order of things on earth?'
 'Man governs it himself,' Homeless angrily hastened to reply to this admittedly none-too-clear
question. `Pardon me,' the stranger responded gently, 'but in order to govern, one needs, after all,
to have a precise plan for certain, at least somewhat decent, length of time. Allow me to ask you,
then, how man can govern, if he is not only deprived of the opportunity of making a plan for at
least some ridiculously short period - well, say, a thousand years - but cannot even vouch for his
own tomorrow?
 `And in fact,' here the stranger turned to Berlioz, 'imagine that you, for instance, start
governing, giving orders to others and yourself, generally, so to speak, acquire a taste for it, and
suddenly you get ...hem... hem ... lung cancer...' - here the foreigner smiled sweetly, and if the
thought of lung cancer gave him pleasure - 'yes, cancer' - narrowing his eyes like a cat, he
repeated the sonorous word - 'and so your governing is over!
 'You are no longer interested in anyone's fate but your own. Your family starts lying to you.
Feeling that something is wrong, you rush to learned doctors, then to quacks, and sometimes to
fortune-tellers as well. Like the first, so the second and third are completely senseless, as you
understand. And it all ends tragically: a man who still recently thought he was governing
something, suddenly winds up lying motionless in a wooden box, and the people around him,
seeing that the man lying there is no longer good for anything, burn him in an oven.
 'And sometimes it's worse still: the man has just decided to go to Kislovodsk' - here the
foreigner squinted at Berlioz - 'a trifling matter, it seems, but even this he cannot accomplish,
because suddenly, no one knows why, he slips and falls under a tram-car! Are you going to say it
was he who governed himself that way? Would it not be more correct to think that he was
governed by someone else entirely?' And here the unknown man burst into a strange little laugh.
..."

CHAPTER 1. Never Talk with Strangers, p. 12, in the middle

- - -

"...

'Can they be crooks?' the magician asked worriedly of his visitor. 'Can there be crooks among
the Muscovites?'
 The barman smiled so bitterly in response that all doubts fell away: yes, there were crooks
among the Muscovites.
 'That is mean!' Woland was indignant. 'You're a poor man ... You are a poor man?'
 The barman drew his head down between his shoulders, making it evident that he was a poor
man.
 'How much have you got in savings?'
 The question was asked in a sympathetic tone, but even so such a question could not but be
acknowledged as indelicate. The barman faltered.
'Two hundred and forty-nine thousand roubles in five savings banks,' a cracked voice
responded from the neighbouring room, `and two hundred ten-rouble gold pieces at home under
the floor.'
 The barman became as if welded to his tabouret.
 'Well, of course, that's not a great sum,' Woland said condescendingly to his visitor, 'though, as
a matter of fact, you have no need of it anyway. When are you going to die?'
 Here the barman became indignant.
 'Nobody knows that and it's nobody's concern,' he replied.
 'Sure nobody knows,' the same trashy voice came from the study. 'The binomial theorem, you
might think! He's going to die in nine months, next February, of liver cancer, in the clinic of the
First Moscow State University, in ward number four.'
 The barman's face turned yellow.
 'Nine months...' Woland calculated pensively. Two hundred and forty-nine thousand... rounding
it off that comes to twenty-seven thousand a month... Not a lot, but enough for a modest life ...
Plus those gold pieces... '
 `He won't get to realize the gold pieces,' the same voice mixed in, turning the barman's heart
to ice. 'On Andrei Fokich's demise, the house will immediately be torn down, and the gold will be
sent to the State Bank.'
..."

p. 98, the second half of the page


- - -


The Minority Report, a book by Philip K. Dick

Philip K. Dick
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_K._Dick

/Blade Runner (1982)
/Minority Report (2002)
...


- - -

...


= = =

The Most Satisfying Case Solves On Monk



9:39 min.

Monk:
You are not laughing now, are you?

Max Hudson:
No, I'm not laughing.

Monk:
Join the club.


Mr. Monk Is on the Air, S5, E13


= = =

Joe Dassin - Salut

Hello, it's me again
Hello, how are you?
It seems to me, it's been a long time
Far from home, I thought of you

I've been travelling a bit too long
And I'm feeling tired
Make me a cup of coffee
For I have a story to tell you

Once upon a time, someone -
Someone you know well -
He went far away
He was lost, and he returned

You know I've changed a lot
I used to have so many ideas
About me, about you, about us
Foolish ideas, but I was a fool

You have nothing more to say to me
For you I'm just a memory
Maybe not such a bad one
I'll never bother you again



= = =

the end
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