[Simulated (OP)]

Yes that is still a "Rock".

And I think I get the rest of that.

[nothingnobody]

when u die, u disseapear....its like a drop dissolving in ocean

[BenV]

This is really a philosophical question, so I will answer it with my own philosophy...

Reincarnation, much like creation stories or Aesop's fables, should not be taken literally.  The idea that "if you lead a good life you will return as a higher organism" does not mean that a well behaved worm will come back as a mole.  I think we should take it to mean that if, during your life, you make things better for others, spread a little happiness or endeavour to make the world a slightly better place, then the next generation will benefit from the life you led.  In this way, and by setting a good example, you 'return' to the world slightly improved.

I also think of life after death in much the same way; if you left an impact on people, then your ideas and 'soul' will continue on after you.  (I mean 'soul' as in the set of attitudes and opinions which drives you to behave in the way you do, not as any external entity.)  You, of course, being a product of organic matter, will simply be gone.

I think that people who honestly believe that they are reincarnated have accessed an area of their imagination, but taken it as truth.

[Quantumorigin7]

It seems that on any site I go on, Reincarnation is accepted.

I'm alone on this, but an afterlife could exist, or we're just born again and knew nothing of our past lives, but it's not reincarnation. Your brain is just another brain, you're there in another life, but your past life is not your soul, it just happened.

Either that, or we're just a sloppy mess under the ground with no tomorrow.

[Nobody's Confidant]

We go to the afterlife forever. Whether it be Hell or Heaven we stay forever. And the former is very untasteful.

[Simulated (OP)]

I'd like to thank you all for your participation in this thread.

[Quantum_Vaccuum]

Im a young tean as well, does that make me any smarter? LOL.

wel any way, my opinion is a very complecated solution, i belive that when you die, you go inside your dreams, and resulting in creation of your own world, were you remember everything in your past life, so every life just gets better and better, and dreaming is creating new lives constintaly. LIke it?

[Andrew K Fletcher]

Well, decomposition means just that, we are taken apart, or disassembled. We also know that energy does not vanish it is projected somewhere else. Therefore Energy can be directly traced back to atoms. For example if you move an object, it is ultimately your atoms that have ultimately moved the object. We also know the capacity for storing massive amounts of information in relatively microscopic components. Maybe even storing information at the atomic level, who knows?

So maybe when our atomic particles are reassembled in the building blocks of life it could be possible to be re-born again.

Some moulds can do this, not on the atomic level but as spores living separate lives like little slugs. They all join together and form a single union in the shape of a mushroom. This is from memory mind so a bit patchy, maybe someone else can relate to the spores.

So a quick recap. Way out Hypothesis but hey who knows? We die and decompose, some memory is stored at the atomic level and is reassembled as another unit, maybe even two units Hmmmm split personality springs to mind.

Who knows, maybe our atoms can be reassembled on another planet in another galaxy.

[Simulated (OP)]

Ah..I see Andrew.

[Andrew K Fletcher]

Ah..I see Andrew.

Glad you can because I'm finding it difficult to see myself. Damn just bumped my head walking to the computer in the dark, Ooo it's not dark ive got my eyes closed

[Simulated (OP)]

Haha. Thanks for the laff I've been a little depressed lateayd

[johnbrandy]

Reincarnation is a theory, and must be examined from that standpoint. Therefore, what tradition is being referenced, and what are its elements and assumptions. Until those concept are clarified, and subject to examination, this discussion has little meaning. Reincarnation does not operate in a vacuum. It has a context; a tradition that must be explained, if we intend to try to understand it, and subject it to intelligent discourse. Is this not reasonable?

[Simulated (OP)]

Sounds good to me.

[johnbrandy]

What happens after we die? This is one of the greatest mysteries. One might ask what happens to biological life after it expires; plant or animal. Can we learn from these examples. From the microscopic to the macroscopic, life strives to adapt and continue its' existence. Decayed plants, as well as animals in nature, provide nutriments for further life. If there is a key to understanding death, it must lie within our own consciousness. Yet, we cannot adequately define or characterize consciousness. Why is this? Many suggest that brain science is not advanced enough to answer this question. Others suggest this question will never be answered. Why? Because consciousness might primarily lies outside of biological existence. Yet we are consciousness. How is this possible? There are many properties that interact with biological existence, and make it possible. Sun light, heat, air, and so forth. Do these "elements" cease to exist at the point of death? Is consciousness a property of the universe that interacts with biological existence, and continues after death? I certainly cannot prove this proposition, but I do intuit as much. For me the question is, after death, do we retain our identity, and if not, is identity real. Further, the existence of consciousness "mediating" biological existence could lend some understanding to concepts such as the Collective Unconscious and related phenomenon.   

[Nobody's Confidant]

Well, it's hard to find out what just is after death seeing as all the people who know what happens...are dead.

But I promise to come back and tell you guys all about it when i die, mmm k?

[Quantumorigin7]

Is consciousness a property of the universe that interacts with biological existence, and continues after death? I certainly cannot prove this proposition, but I do intuit as much.

If you accept the theory of the mind as a hologram, then you will have a deeper understanding of how the mind can project itself in the universe at a higher dimension.

[benep]

i don't know i don't think its totally black after you die but maybe you become the earth you're particles fuse with the earth tho there is no scientific proof of reincarnation just children saying they remember living in a street from their previous life  which could just be in a dream or something  and certainly no proof of heaven or hell neither is there proof in my theory so blackness does seem most likely tho its a rather harrowing thought...

[benep]

Dunno, i always like to think it's in another dimension, somewhere beyond our universe and understanding of how things should work.

If it is 'another dimension' (i.e. a parallel universe), then from the point of view of our universe, it cannot exist (i.e. only that can be deemed to exist, in scientific terms, if it somehow interacts with what is here).

There is also a problem that if 'we' are leaking out to another universe, then what creates 'us'?  If there is a perpetual leakage of this kind, then somehow it must be draining what is here; or else, we must find some reverse flow from that other universe to us, both to prevent that other universe from becoming out of balance, and to prevent us from becoming drained of whatever it is that you think passes out from us to the other universe.

Once you start to look at a two way flow between the two universes, then they are no longer separate universes, because the two universes have an intimate bidirectional flow, and thus they form a single system, and thus a single universe.

With all this flow going on, we should have other physical effects that can be detected (and scientifically modelled) as a consequence of this flow.

Another problem with this notion of life after death (in whatever dimension it may be in), one has how one defines what 'we' are - what is the boundary between 'us' and not 'us'.  Insofar as we are talking about human beings (it is difficult to know how this theory is supposed to be applied to non-humans), we usually regard the boundary of a human being as being the animal body of that human being, but it is clear that the animal body of the human body perishes after death, so we must find a different definition of what is a human being.  If the parameters of what constitutes a human being is not limited by the human body, then why should there be any relationship between the human animal and your notion of a human being?  How can you show any correlation between the human animal and your construct of a human being which in other contexts you believe can exist outside of the body of the human animal?

not to be rude but you're speaking as if we are the only life form and the main life form that actually exists maybe there is another universe with different outcomes or action then us e.g if i killed someone in my universe maybe in the other one i didnt so maybe your "soul" finds a way to that universe without the draining of our universe tho i do believe there may be different universes maybe not paralell but a diferent universe with different life forms

[Karen W.]

I believe that also.. about maybe different life forms and such also!

[benep]

yeah i dont think we're the ONLY life form in existance at this moment we humans are probably not even the main life form we only think that because we dont know of any other life forms thats how self absorbed we are! so im nearly positive theres another life form somewhere in existance that hasnt shown itself to us either out of fear or just simply not knowing about us