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which gas has the higher breakdown voltage helium or oxygen ?
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which gas has the higher breakdown voltage helium or oxygen ?
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which gas has the higher breakdown voltage helium or oxygen ?
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Re: which gas has the higher breakdown voltage helium or oxygen ?
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can you answer quickly
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Re: which gas has the higher breakdown voltage helium or oxygen ?
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It depends
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paschen's_law
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can you explain depends of what.......
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Re: which gas has the higher breakdown voltage helium or oxygen ?
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If you look at the graph from the Wikipedia that BC gave.
O
2
is not listed.
However, compare the curves for N
2
and He.
The X axis of the graph shows a product of the (pressure * distance) separating the electrode plates.
For all higher pressures and wider gaps, Helium hits the bottom of the list. I.E. The lowest breakdown voltage.
However, there is a point with low pressures and narrow gaps, that Helium performs better than most other gases, except for Hydrogen.
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what makes elements of gases low or high break down voltage from same of atom structure...
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Re: which gas has the higher breakdown voltage helium or oxygen ?
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BC will have to give a better answer.
It appears as if the chart on the left side is dominated by atomic/molecular size.
On the right, it appears to be dominated more by electronegative, and "free" electrons, but I would need more data to confirm. Surprisingly the Helium which is one of the least electronegative elements is at the bottom of the graph.
I would be curious about more gases, chlorine, fluorine, oxygen, methane, and etc.
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