[Kryptid]

500 professors and 1600 readers, only 2 people still think gravity has light speed? Good!

When did those 500 professors and 1600 readers tell you they don't think gravity moves at light speed? No answer is no answer.

Sun light reaches us through repulsion force between electrons on the surface of Sun and earth, energy teleport between lines of sight electrons. That is the mechanism of radiation.

That's still wrong.

Your goal is to learn truth, not against.

That is exactly why we're arguing against you.

1 electron and 1 proton cannot form a hydrogen atom. Simple fact.

This statement is wrong.

Atoms are not 99.99% empty space, simple fact.

You're actually correct this time. They contain even more empty space than that.

Forces have no speed, simple fact.

If force traveled at infinite speed, then the speed of sound would be infinite (since the force between the atoms that transmits sound would move infinitely fast). Sound doesn't move at infinite speed, so you are wrong.

[seeker3 (OP)]

Forces don't travel, forces either attract or repel. Forces have attitude, direction and carrier. Forces don't have speed. Forces are coexisting with matters. All facts.

1 electron and 1 proton can only attract each other, there is no mechanism for them to not stick together. Word puzzle and word salad is not science. Without precise mechanism all theory is just theory.

I discovered levity, fact or not? I explained the mechanism of gravity, fact or not? I showed what is the mechanism of light, fact or not?

Don't against truth. Right is right, wrong is wrong. By the end, you will face the truth.

[Kryptid]

Forces don't travel, forces either attract or repel. Forces have attitude, direction and carrier. Forces don't have speed. Forces are coexisting with matters. All facts.

So why isn't the speed of sound infinite? If forces move at infinite speed, then the atoms that make up a material would have to push on each other instantly. Thus, an infinite speed of sound.

1 electron and 1 proton can only attract each other, there is no mechanism for them to not stick together.

Sure there is. It's called Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. You not liking the answer won't change it (cue your stock "what is precise mechanism?" response).

Word puzzle and word salad is not science.

The only one posting word puzzles and word salad here is you. Scientists understand their theories. You inability to understand them is not evidence that they are wrong.

Without precise mechanism all theory is just theory.

Do you know what a scientific theory is? It isn't the same for the common usage of the word theory (which is a synonym for a guess). You should probably look it up.

I discovered levity, fact or not?

Not.

I explained the mechanism of gravity, fact or not?

Not.

I showed what is the mechanism of light, fact or not?

Not.

Don't against truth.

I think this is a sentence fragment.

Right is right, wrong is wrong. By the end, you will face the truth.

A "truth" that you can only support by invoking conspiracy theories.

[seeker3 (OP)]

Sound and light must exist in a medium. Sound is the medium vibrating. Light is the electrostatic force vibrating.

In vacuum space, no matter, no charged particle, no force carrier, therefore no light or sound wave can exist.

What is uncertain principle? 1 electron and 1 proton at r distance, only 1 force exists, F=Ke x pq/R^2. Those two particles must stick together under attraction force. This is 100% certain fact.

Simple logic, are you playing fool?  Why?

[Kryptid]

Sound and light must exist in a medium. Sound is the medium vibrating. Light is the electrostatic force vibrating.

That doesn't answer why the speed of sound isn't infinite if the speed of the force traveling through matter is infinite.

In vacuum space, no matter, no charged particle, no force carrier, therefore no light or sound wave can exist.

Observably incorrect.

What is uncertain principle?

I already answered this question in the past, but just so you have something to read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle

1 electron and 1 proton at r distance, only 1 force exists, F=Ke x pq/R^2. Those two particles must stick together under attraction force. This is 100% certain fact.

They are already as stuck together as they can be. Subatomic particles aren't solid little balls of matter, you know. You are ignoring their quantum mechanical nature, such as their wave properties.

Simple logic, are you playing fool?  Why?

Your logic is flawed and contradicts scientific evidence.

[seeker3 (OP)]

You don't even understand why gravity has no speed, what else can you understand?

Until you understood why forces are instantaneous, don't waste time reply.

Anyone thinks gravity propagating at light speed, please speak up.

[Kryptid]

You don't even understand why gravity has no speed, what else can you understand?

You haven't given any experimental evidence to support your position. All you ever do is keep repeating your unsubstantiated claims.

Until you understood why forces are instantaneous, don't waste time reply.

If forces were instantaneous, the speed of sound would be infinite. It isn't, so the forces acting between the atoms aren't instantaneous. You have yet to explain this apparent contradiction between the measurably finite speed of sound and your claim that forces act instantly.

[Bored chemist]

Without precise mechanism all theory is just theory.

[seeker3 (OP)]

Travel to a physical place is possible. Travel to the past or the future is not possible, because the past and future are imaginary, are not a physical location.

Time travel is not science fiction but science lie.

Our science education is bad, people are mostly confused.


Science = Liece

There is no black hole.

An electron cannot orbit/cloud/wave around proton to form an atom.

The Sun is not a fusion reactor.

NASA never went to the moon.

Mars missions are all fake.

LIGO never detected gravity wave from 1.3 billion years ago.

Time travel is a lie. Simulation is a lie.

Relativity is BS. Cosmology is BS. QM is BS. Electromagnetism is half correct.

There is no light in vacuum space.

Sunlight reaches us instantly.

Gravity speed is infinite.

I am going to write a book to expose all science lies.

Without a precise mechanism of a theory, there is no science.

[Bored chemist]

I am going to write a book to expose all science lies.

Be sure to check with your lawyers.
Libelling all scientists may get you into trouble.

[Colin2B]

That list sounds more like a conspiracy theory than a new theory.

[Kryptid]

Do you plan on explaining why the speed of sound is finite any time soon?

[seeker3 (OP)]

Do you plan on explaining why the speed of sound is finite any time soon?

F=ma, force and motion. No mass/matter can move at infinite speed. All waves, sound, light, whatever wave are matter waving. No waves in vacuum space.

Hold a magnet in each hand, feel the repulsion force? Now wave 1 hand, feel the energy teleport to other hand? Is there any magnetic wave traveling at light speed between hands?

[seeker3 (OP)]

There are two kinds of forces, attraction force and repulsion force.

Electrostatic force, gravity, levity, magnetic force, even imaginary string and weak force are instantaneous. Forces don't travel or propagate in space at light speed.

Forces are inherited property of matter, indestructible and immortal.

[Kryptid]

Hold a magnet in each hand, feel the repulsion force? Now wave 1 hand, feel the energy teleport to other hand? Is there any magnetic wave traveling at light speed between hands?

That experiment is far too crude to possibly get any kind of speed estimate out of it. Do you think the human senses are precise enough to tell the difference between the speed of light and instantaneous movement on such a small scale? They can't.

Electrostatic force, gravity, levity, magnetic force, even imaginary string and weak force are instantaneous. Forces don't travel or propagate in space at light speed.

Argument from assertion. Please learn what evidence is.

[Bored chemist]

Is there any magnetic wave traveling at light speed between hands?

Yes, it will take about  three billionths of a second to travel.
Would you notice a delay like that?
If not, then it's a silly experiment, isn't it?

[alancalverd]

The laser beams that you see in space westerns and other scifi drivel are not real, because there is nothing in space to scatter the beam towards your eye. You can't see the light from the projector in a really clean cinema until it is reflected from the screen, but it is scattered from cigarette smoke. Same with the bottle of water.

Since every criminal knows this, and uses smoke or dry ice to check for laser alarm grids, I guess the physics professors assumed that everyone else did, and thus ignored the questions as the ravings of a crank.

I was once assigned the job of reading crank letters to the Department of Health just in case there was something of legal or clinical significance behind them. Interestingly, most were written in green ink. I mentioned this to a colleague in the Ministry of Defence who pointed out that the naval tradition is that all and only admirals use green ink.