The Naked Scientists
  • Login
  • Register
  • Podcasts
      • The Naked Scientists
      • eLife
      • Naked Genetics
      • Naked Astronomy
      • In short
      • Naked Neuroscience
      • Ask! The Naked Scientists
      • Question of the Week
      • Archive
      • Video
      • SUBSCRIBE to our Podcasts
  • Articles
      • Science News
      • Features
      • Interviews
      • Answers to Science Questions
  • Get Naked
      • Donate
      • Do an Experiment
      • Science Forum
      • Ask a Question
  • About
      • Meet the team
      • Our Sponsors
      • Site Map
      • Contact us

User menu

  • Login
  • Register
  • Home
  • Help
  • Search
  • Tags
  • Recent Topics
  • Login
  • Register
  1. Naked Science Forum
  2. On the Lighter Side
  3. New Theories
  4. SR frame dragging
« previous next »
  • Print
Pages: [1]   Go Down

SR frame dragging

  • 4 Replies
  • 1705 Views
  • 0 Tags

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Jaaanosik (OP)

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • 656
  • Activity:
    0%
  • Thanked: 7 times
SR frame dragging
« on: 11/08/2020 23:44:07 »
OK, no frame dragging, no v^2.
c^2 = (c/2)^2
c!=c
How do you solve this?
Jano
Logged
 



Offline Kryptid

  • Global Moderator
  • Naked Science Forum King!
  • ********
  • 8082
  • Activity:
    1.5%
  • Thanked: 514 times
Re: SR frame dragging
« Reply #1 on: 11/08/2020 23:47:42 »
Quote from: Jaaanosik on 11/08/2020 23:44:07
OK, no frame dragging, no v^2.
c^2 = (c/2)^2
c!=c
How do you solve this?
Jano

Since you admit that you are no longer talking about frame-dragging, please put that in the appropriate thread ("Is relativity reciprocal?" seems like a good one).
Logged
 

Offline Jaaanosik (OP)

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • 656
  • Activity:
    0%
  • Thanked: 7 times
Re: SR frame dragging
« Reply #2 on: 11/08/2020 23:58:53 »
Quote from: Janus on 11/08/2020 23:36:24
...
As Kryptid has also said, No, this is not frame dragging.  Frame dragging is a GR effect that involves a rotating mass.
It has has nothing to do with your example.  In fact, your example isn't even a good one for aberration.

I am aware of the GR frame dragging.
I am presenting an argument that the frame dragging exists in SR as well.
The light moves up on the train car but it is 'dragged' to the right from platform point of view.
The aberration stands. It is a good example.
If the platform observer wants to hit the same spot where the red arrow hits the train middle point on the other side then the platform observer cannot shoot at 90 degrees.
cos(theta) = v/c = 0.866 ===> theta=30deg
The simplified formula,
Jano
Logged
 

Offline Jaaanosik (OP)

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • 656
  • Activity:
    0%
  • Thanked: 7 times
Re: SR frame dragging
« Reply #3 on: 12/08/2020 00:00:55 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 11/08/2020 23:47:42

Since you admit that you are no longer talking about frame-dragging, please put that in the appropriate thread ("Is relativity reciprocal?" seems like a good one).
How do we solve this?

c^2 = (c/2)^2
c!=c
Logged
 

Offline Kryptid

  • Global Moderator
  • Naked Science Forum King!
  • ********
  • 8082
  • Activity:
    1.5%
  • Thanked: 514 times
Re: SR frame dragging
« Reply #4 on: 12/08/2020 00:03:13 »
Quote from: Jaaanosik on 11/08/2020 23:58:53
The light moves up on the train car but it is 'dragged' to the right from platform point of view.

Quote from: Kryptid on 11/08/2020 23:12:34
For the last time, what you are talking about is not frame-dragging. Did you even watch the video I posted?

Since you missed it the first time...

Quote from: Jaaanosik on 12/08/2020 00:00:55
How do we solve this?

c^2 = (c/2)^2
c!=c

Did you not just read what I posted about putting this in the appropriate thread?
Logged
 



  • Print
Pages: [1]   Go Up
« previous next »
Tags:
 
There was an error while thanking
Thanking...
  • SMF 2.0.15 | SMF © 2017, Simple Machines
    Privacy Policy
    SMFAds for Free Forums
  • Naked Science Forum ©

Page created in 1.143 seconds with 40 queries.

  • Podcasts
  • Articles
  • Get Naked
  • About
  • Contact us
  • Advertise
  • Privacy Policy
  • Subscribe to newsletter
  • We love feedback

Follow us

cambridge_logo_footer.png

©The Naked Scientists® 2000–2017 | The Naked Scientists® and Naked Science® are registered trademarks created by Dr Chris Smith. Information presented on this website is the opinion of the individual contributors and does not reflect the general views of the administrators, editors, moderators, sponsors, Cambridge University or the public at large.