[mad aetherist]

This is what's happening with science ..

What?
Badly drawn graphs?

I could of been more precise and put years of things on such as Albert and CERN etc.  It's an example Mr C , they don't have to be precise .
The Hafele–Keating experiment was a test of the theory of relativity. In October 1971, Joseph C. Hafele, a physicist, and Richard E. Keating, an astronomer, took four cesium-beam atomic clocks aboard commercial airliners. They flew twice around the world, first eastward, then westward, and compared the clocks against others that remained at the United States Naval Observatory. When reunited, the three sets of clocks were found to disagree with one another, and their differences were consistent with the predictions of special and general relativity.
concept an idea or invention to help sell or publicize a commodity.
Science added concept time to the caesium . You got sold broken clocks .

Hafele Keating was/is a fraud.
http://www.cartesio-episteme.net/h%26kpaper.htm
http://euclideanreality.com/pdf/Critical_Reflections_on_the_Hafele_and_Keating_Experiment.pdf

[Bored chemist]

Do you want to insist space itself is expanding or have you got some smarts since ?

No.
I'd like you to answer my question.

How come all clocks show the same change?

Cabin pressure

No, that makes no sense; we would see the effect of atmospheric pressure on earth bound clocks.
It's also not credible anyway; the caesium is in a vacuum chamber.

[guest39538]

Do you want to insist space itself is expanding or have you got some smarts since ?

No.
I'd like you to answer my question.

How come all clocks show the same change?

Cabin pressure

No, that makes no sense; we would see the effect of atmospheric pressure on earth bound clocks.
It's also not credible anyway; the caesium is in a vacuum chamber.

Did they use identical planes that  had  identical mass ?






The ground state constant became a different ground state constant ,  the clocks absorbed less energy from the planes than the earth maybe .  An air vacuum is also not an absolute field vacuum . Or maybe the results were just fake .


added- Isn't a change of frequency the same as a change of current ?

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Δv→Δi →Δf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_current


Added - ok , so it looks like to me that there isn't a time dilation , they actually discovered how to measure a change of current flow of a N-flowing ''beam'' . 

I'd hate to try to do the conversion .

Added - arrr, I use to do some amateur dj , I understand about amps , had some huge speakers in the past etc , now I understand frequency , vibration and flow in full .


added - eureka  t=I   

I= maybe....


added- The continuous flow of time  is proportional to the flow of current .

Of course time defined a quantifiable measurement directly proportional to aging .

Δi = var (x) 

 

[guest39538]

v_maxI =

[Bored chemist]

Did they use identical planes that  had  identical mass ?

No.
They even used planes moving at different speeds, and also satellites and just to make it interesting, muons.
And, in spite of that they still get the right change in elapsed time.
How do you explain how the clocks all "go wrong" to exactly the right extent?

[guest39538]

in spite of that they still get the right change in elapsed time.

Elapsed timing Mr C ,  please use the correct semantics . 

I haven't personally done the experiment or observed the experiment so I'm not in a position to make a full analysis of the experiment and attempt to answer the whys' .
However I am in a position to correct the semantics and interpretation , 


ΔS→ΔU→Δv→Δf   

x≠xy

The above the mechanics of the experiment , no time function other than that added in equivalence that has no other use but that of the practitioneer .

f≠t  unless subjectively interpreted so .

[Colin2B]

Fake sh1t , ...... science thinks we are all stupid and will believe all their bs they preach to us .

Hafele Keating was/is a fraud

This thread seems more conspiracy theory than real discussion of new theory.
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