[RobotGymnast (OP)]

Hello, I was with my girlfriend the other day, and stimulated her vagina, and she informed me a few days later that she  had felt "not too good for a while after" []. I was wondering if this has happened to anybody else (she didn't have an orgasm, so I don't think it relates to the "thunderclap headache during orgasm" threads). She's a virgin, and doesn't masturbate. My theory is that for the first time, maybe it was too much stimulation? Any theories would help. Oh and it doesn't happen for any stimulation the breasts, only the genital area.

Thanks []!

[neilep]

Hi RobotGymnast,

Thank you for your post.

It's possible that you aroused sensations that she's just not experienced before but it's important to understand the nature of her  "not too good for a while after " !

What was it ?...tummy aches ?...head aches ?..muscular ?....emotional ?

I can imagine there being quite a bit of sensitivity and tension at the time........I'm f course not an expert here and we can only give personal opinions but if you can elaborate a little on her symptoms ......then it may help point the situation in the right direction.

[RobotGymnast (OP)]

I'm actually not sure how she meant. I would imagine nauseous, but I actually haven't asked her to elaborate. I'll ask.

Oh and I love your sig =P

[neilep]

I'm actually not sure how she meant. I would imagine nauseous, but I actually haven't asked her to elaborate. I'll ask.

Oh and I love your sig =P

Good on ya for asking her............glad you like the signature....and WELCOME to the site !!

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!

[Karen W.]

Hi..my guess being a women, would be that her tummy was involved..between excitement and nervous anticipation..that can really bring on some very nervous tummy problems as well a a little nausea ....especially being so nervous..that tends to make one feel icky....knowing your ages would help, but not knowing I would say the younger she is the more likely that these feelings could be very confusing to her... I would think between anticipation and the fear that may be there from a new experience can be nerve racking.

i would just talk about it and make sure she is emotionally ready also...

it does sound like a nervous stomach......

take care....make sure its what she wants...if she is not sure of what she was feeling she may not be ready for  moving on past the heavy petting stage. Make sure you follow her wishes and clues....Its good you are concerned for her.. she may or may not be ready.

It is a big step and you want to make sure that it i a good one for her.

[Simulated]

He's 15 karen. Veiew his page. ha

[RobotGymnast (OP)]

Hi..my guess being a women, would be that her tummy was involved..between excitemnt and nervous antcipation..that can really bring on some very nervous tummy problems as well a a little nausea ....espeaciallybeing so nervous..that tends to make one feel icky....knowing yor ages would help, but not knowing I would say the younger she is the mor likely that these felings could be very confusing to her... I would think between aticipation and the fear that may be there from a new experience can be nerve racking.

i would just talk about it and make sure she is emotionally ready also...

it does sound like a nervous stomach......

take care....make sure its what she wants...if she is not sure of what she was feeling she may not be ready for  moving on past the heavy petting stage. Make sure you follow her wishes and clues....Its good you are concerned for her.. she may or may not be ready.

It is a big step and you want to make sure that it i a good one for her.

She's quick to stop me if she's uncomfortable with anything (I made her promise to stop me in that event anyway). But it sounds like as good an explanation as any. Thanks

[Karen W.]

I would say if as Sim points out if you are both 15 and under that this is way too early for her to even know the consequences well enough to understand what she would be doing... and It would be way better to wait until you are both old enough to handle all of the responsibilities of a That a sexual relationship entails, as it is far more then just sex or primordial erges!

I mean physical as well as mental responsibilities... to which there are so very many!
There is the constant possibility of pregnancy and fatherhood and financial responsibilities emotional aspects as well. You guys have your whole life ahead of you.... Its time to be young and do the things kids love to do.. Give yourself time to be kids.. If you are 15 then I am assuming you are both close in age.... You should wait.. a big clue to you that she is not ready was the fact that she felt uneasy and kind of bad afterwards..She's young enough that she does not even understand her own bodily feelings let alone look past the simple act of love making or heavy petting...
 Maybe the both of you could seek some good advice through a counselor .. maybe thru planned parenthood they may be able to advise you....Do you have any programs like that in Canada?

Thanks Ryan..

[Karen W.]

 Your Welcome, and I would say if as Sim points out if you are both 15 and under that this is way too early for her to even know the consequences well enough to understand what she would be doing... and It would be way better to wait until you are both old enough to handle all of the responsibilities of a That a sexual relationship entails, as it is far more then just sex or primordial erges!

I mean physical as well as mental responsibilities... to which there are so very many!
There is the constant possibility of pregnancy and fatherhood and financial responsibilities emotional aspects as well. You guys have your whole life ahead of you.... Its time to be young and do the things kids love to do.. Give yourself time to be kids.. If you are 15 then I am assuming you are both close in age.... You should wait.. a big clue to you that she is not ready was the fact that she felt uneasy and kind of bad afterwards..She's young enough that she does not even understand her own bodily feelings let alone look past the simple act of love making or heavy petting...
 Maybe the both of you could seek some good advice through a counselor .. maybe thru planned parenthood they may be able to advise you....Do you have any programs like that in Canada?

Thanks Ryan..

[Simulated]

She's quick to stop me if she's uncomfortable with anything (I made her promise to stop me in that event anyway). But it sounds like as good an explanation as any. Thanks

Heyy me too. ha

and yes more people needa read that postS! karen. ha

[RobotGymnast (OP)]

 Your Welcome, and I would say if as Sim points out if you are both 15 and under that this is way too early for her to even know the consequences well enough to understand what she would be doing... and It would be way better to wait until you are both old enough to handle all of the responsibilities of a That a sexual relationship entails, as it is far more then just sex or primordial erges!

I mean physical as well as mental responsibilities... to which there are so very many!
There is the constant possibility of pregnancy and fatherhood and financial responsibilities emotional aspects as well. You guys have your whole life ahead of you.... Its time to be young and do the things kids love to do.. Give yourself time to be kids.. If you are 15 then I am assuming you are both close in age.... You should wait.. a big clue to you that she is not ready was the fact that she felt uneasy and kind of bad afterwards..She's young enough that she does not even understand her own bodily feelings let alone look past the simple act of love making or heavy petting...
 Maybe the both of you could seek some good advice through a counselor .. maybe thru planned parenthood they may be able to advise you....Do you have any programs like that in Canada?

Thanks Ryan..

First off, we are both very smart people. Second, we're not having sex..I guess I left that ambiguous. It was my hand stimulating her.

Third, I will NOT be talked down to because of my age, and told I (or anybody else) do not understand something because I am a teenager. Animals mate often when they reach sexual maturity, and I believe puberty is sexual maturity in humans. So if I have reached sexual maturity, doesn't that mean I'm entailed to do sexual things? Humans are animals, and should respect their instincts. Do you flinch if a baseball flies towards your head? That's an instinct. The whole "meaning" of sex has been blown out of proportion. If you refuse to be swayed by my logic, then I refuse to be swayed by yours (notice how that logic lets me continue what I'm doing regardless of what you do =P).

I do fully understand this concept. Experience is not necessary to understand the dangers. I'm fine with waiting because of physical reasons, but telling me we don't "understand" something because of our age is neither necessary nor justifiable.

And yeah, we probably do have something like that in canada. But no way in hel- *realizes he might offend somebody* no way in heck am I looking into it

[Karen W.]

My Comment was in no way meant as talking down to you, and certainly not saying that every teen feels that way or doesn't understand the consequences I feel you were exhibiting very mature behavior posting the question... It was not meant as a derogatory remark.. I said what I said due to the information you gave regarding her feelings, but one also must take her age into it also.. I was her age too and had some very difficult feelings about my body and what it was experiencing and I did not understand half of what I was feeling...

 Please don't take offense It was my opinion of what she MIGHT be experiencing emotionally! I do realize that what I said did sound that way but was not meant too. sorry for that!

  It is just an alternative if she does feel she needs to talk.. thats all..

Now as for sex.. I think I mentioned Heavy petting ... sex as I a understood you, had not happened,, eh? That is why I said to make sure you were both ready.. not to take offense, but you seemed mature enough to  take in the things I said without offence but as just good advice and things to look for that she might be feeling.. I never said you were not intelligent people..... and intelligence does not imply you know everything or all there is to know about emotions etc... It implies your ability to learn and benefit from that learning.. at least thats my idea of intelligence.. to evolve from your experience and retain that learning through application of said learned skills!


 Like I said no offense was implied or meant... Sorry if you felt that way...

[BenV]

Hey Robot,

Please don't be offended by people commenting on your age - it's really easy to forget how we felt at 15 and just assume we know better!  As you age you realise you were not as mature as you thought you were, and I assume this goes on throughout your life.  It's startling at 25 to look back at the 18 year old you and realise you were nowhere near as grown up as you thought!  I'm guessing at 30 you do the same to the 25 year old you and so on...

But I can only know about the 15 year old me, and you are your own person.

Welcome to the forum!  I'm afraid I have no suggestions to your question though...

[RobotGymnast (OP)]

I realize it was intended as derogatory, almost nobody does that. But it is a conclusion based almost solely on age. I'm sorry if I implied you were intending to be derogatory.

That's the thing for me, BenV, I DON'T mature. I've peaked. I know I'm just as mature at 15 as I was at 12 (I can't remember any further back =P). More experienced, more educated, and I have definitely changed psychologically (thanks to myself.. who needs a psychiatrist []?), but I have not matured. I am as mature as every adult I know, I have philosophical discussions with adults, discuss science and sex, and can argue any topic and take viewpoints on anything with an adult (hell, I'm more mature than my father >_>). Sure I can be immature at times, but that won't change.. that just depends on who I'm talking to.

To me, intelligence is a combonation of ability to learn and learned information (because learned information naturally expands quickly with someone who has a good ability to learn), so I guess to me intelligence implies a wide amount of knowledge

Alright, I've taken all this information and made a decision.

Thanks for the help

Oh and I have no idea what on earth "heavy petting" is.

[Karen W.]

OK.. Heavy petting is an old term.. Your speaking to a 47 year old..almost 48.. LOL!

It means kissing, touching, necking, hand stimulating, petting, feeling, most everything except the

actual intercourse itself.

 Definitely no problem as like I said it was NOT intended to come off as derogatory.

[RobotGymnast (OP)]

oh I get it. Thanks =D

[Simulated]

Yeah, I know what you mean about your 3rd point you made, i mean i'd do it, but i don't wanna screw my life up. you know? cuz even with all the stuff they have now there's still a chance. You sound just like me, but your a year older

[RobotGymnast (OP)]

actually I just turned 15. Yeah getting an STD pretty much sucks.

[Simulated]

actually I just turned 15. Yeah getting an STD pretty much sucks.

yeah well i won't be 15 til september. so. and yeah not even that just the possiblity of having a kid. i mean my life is hard enough right now as it is.

[Karen W.]

oh I get it. Thanks =D

Your welcome!