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« Reply #40 on: 06/08/2008 08:12:01 »
Quote from: ”Arthur”
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Pegg says that descriptions found in ancient texts from over 25 cultures and time eras match to the imagery and content from three modern cd-roms. He also says that he located the biblical End Time Signs as events in history books, being that when the described events were compared to modern historical events - they matched.
I do not consider this to be valid since the research was based on the fact that the imagery and the events do match. This was the premise on which the research was based.
The conclusion [of time travel] was an attempt to explain why the imagery and the events matched.
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No. You seem to be missing several steps in the research process and have also picked up on the wrong premise, and linked it with a different conclusion.

The "search for matching imagery" as you call it was part of the later Multiple Attestation Criterion to see whether Pegg's claim of 'history from modern cd-roms being documented in ancient texts' was valid.

Between 1996 and 1998 Ronald Pegg found modern historical events documented in ancient texts, both at the surface level and in an encoded manner. That was his first observation.

When these claims were investigated, amazingly, more examples of 'modern history in ancient texts' were found.
If no supportive evidence from modern cd-roms or history books was to be found, then Pegg's discovery would have been deemed just a coincidence. But supportive evidence WAS found and it was concluded that ancient texts do in fact contain extracts of actual history from specific modern history books. So we moved on to the next step - looking for more associated evidence.

Upon further investigation it was found that the common link between the documentation of future historical events in ancient texts was an encounter with God or his angels. It is documented in ancient texts that these angels used certain 'books' to show and tell the ancient prophets whom then documented their encounters.

At this stage it was proposed by Pegg that GOD's Angels travelled through time and took the named printed modern history books back to the ancient prophets and told and showed them the enclosed information - as documented by various named ancient prophets. This was the first theory. The accounts in the religious stories themselves seemed to support this concept.

But this can not be just a 'one off' theory. If this theory was correct for the Old Testament, then at other encounters with angels or gods, there should be the same evidence of modern history documented. As I have previously posted - as well as historical events being documented in ancient texts, associated with these there were certain sequences of animal imagery cited (the 'future visions').

Pegg used his hypothesis to predict what additional evidence should exist only if the hypothesis is true. Basically, at all encounters with gods, GOD, or Angels, various combinations of animal descriptions (the 'visions'), Persian Gulf War data, named people and the historical events - should appear in ancient texts.

He investigated over 25 ancient texts, and there in the ancient descriptions - often covered over by mistranslations or religious rhetoric - were the same animal 'visions', war, and future historical events documented. The "Visions" and "Signs" in all these ancient texts were found to be descriptions of sequences of imagery from at least three cd-roms - Ancients, Grolier, and RedShift2.

The discovered evidence thus supported his claim that "modern historical accounts and cd-rom imagery are described in ancient texts where 'gods, God, or Angels' tell the prophet of future things".

The premise for the research wasn't based on the idea that 'the imagery and the events do match' but 'What supportive evidence is there that indicates that modern historical accounts in ancient texts as cited by the 'gods, God, or Angels' are not just coincidences'.

It was found that where modern historical events were documented in ancient texts, so too were descriptions of the imagery from the cd-roms.

The concept of criterion of multiple attestation declares that the more independent sources there are, the more confident historians feel about reconstructing the past.
This is the point at which you have been introduced to the results of the research. Many of the 'matching' examples are provided on the WBD website.

So on to the next step. Gods, Angels, or something else ?

Pegg found that some of the religiously described gods, GOD, and angels were not of a divine nature, but referred to the icons from the three cd-roms (the seals/doorways which were often depicted as animals).
This destroyed his first theory that it was GOD's Angels who took back the modern books and compact disks.
The other 'angels' who are documented by the named prophet as specifically talking to and showing them 'future things' were therefore also not of a divine nature.

During his investigations Pegg found computer parts documented in the Old Testament, and when Strong's Concordance was employed to return the mistranslated and misinterpreted Latin and Greek meanings back to the original Hebrew/Aramaic, WHY all this is documented in ancient texts was eventually revealed.

The conclusion wasn't (as you call it) "an attempt to explain why the imagery and the events matched" but 'why' and 'how' the imagery and history from the cd-roms ARE documented in ancient texts.

The discovery of more than 30 separate cultural examples of 'matching imagery with ancient descriptions' throughout various eras was the supportive Multiple Attestation process of the investigations - not the premise of the research.
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« Reply #41 on: 06/08/2008 15:39:36 »
The big mistake, as already pointed out and yet dismissed, is that the choice relies on either 1 or 2 with no room for a 3rd possibility, a load of rubbish.

Peggs conclusion are just his conclusions. He dismisses the fact that you cant prove a negative because he knows its all true!

Its the old, "if you are not with me you are against me" principal which leaves no room for any other ideas and creates a very unscientific biased view. 10 years of research does not make a solid theory especially when one has already made up their mind as to the outcome and is not prepared to listen.

What is the proof that God exists = none
What is the proof that Angels exist = none
What is the proof that time travel exists = none
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« Reply #42 on: 07/08/2008 05:57:11 »
Quote from: that mad man on 06/08/2008 15:39:36
What is the proof that God exists = none
Assuming you are referring to the religiously described and perceived GOD from the world’s various religious texts - Agreed.
BUT the basis for those religious stories/myths about gods and God are due to encounters with the images of the five deities from the modern cd-rom.
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Quote from: that mad man on 06/08/2008 15:39:36
What is the proof that Angels exist = none
Assuming you are referring to the white winged religiously described and perceived Angels from the world’s various religious texts - Agreed.
BUT using original meanings for angel, such as the Hebrew meaning being just “messenger” - there ARE chronicles of certain ‘messengers’ in various ancient texts by named historical people who told them to write down what they saw and were told from a specific “sealed book” that they were holding.
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Quote from: that mad man on 06/08/2008 15:39:36
What is the proof that time travel exists = none
Incorrect.
Ancient texts contain descriptions of modern technology.
Ancient texts contain descriptions of the content from three certain modern cd-roms.
Ancient texts contain chronicled descriptions of actual modern historical events and people.
Some ancient texts contain depictions of a compact disk and other computer technology.
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LINK to seven REPORTS [nofollow] that presents further proof.
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« Reply #43 on: 09/08/2008 23:16:00 »
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« Reply #44 on: 10/08/2008 11:09:41 »
Paul - you're more polite than me.

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« Reply #45 on: 20/06/2009 01:06:19 »
What puzzles me the most is whether the ancient Egyptians used AT&T or Sprint for their iPhones and Blackberrys...
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« Reply #46 on: 20/06/2009 14:19:25 »
Now I'd be the first to accept that the ancient Egyptians were are highly advanced civilisation, as this pic of a pyramid illustrates only too well, but surely you can't be suggesting they had cellphone technology, can you?
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« Reply #47 on: 20/06/2009 16:26:51 »
I wish those time travellers had taken a battery operated camera with them.  If they had, they could have brought back some interesting documentaries.

In any event, why did they go back in time?  If they just wanted to initiate change - it's somewhat pointless.  The future has happened notwithstanding exactly as evident, presumably in those CD ROMS.

Personally I think those time travellers took the wrong turn there.  If they really want a money spinner, let's get some pictures of ancient Egypt with the pyramids and temples new and freshly painted.  I'd give good money to see that.
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« Reply #48 on: 21/06/2009 09:53:00 »
I rather doubt you will be parting with a single penny.
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« Reply #49 on: 21/06/2009 10:09:34 »
Well I'm going to go back to the day that I was born. I will then proceed to kidnap myself.

Is this what they call putting your destiny into your own hands?

 
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« Reply #50 on: 21/06/2009 10:11:58 »
No, it may be called putting your own density into your own hands though.
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« Reply #51 on: 21/06/2009 10:16:42 »
Hahaa, at first I was like

But then I read it two more times and now

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« Reply #52 on: 21/06/2009 12:15:11 »
Chemistry4me - how do you do all that with your emotocoms?  It looks so profficient.  Still looking for a profile update [???]  [???]

(that's the best I can do)

Read Don_1's.  It's got to be the best on the forum.
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« Reply #53 on: 22/06/2009 04:20:34 »
They're all here http://bestsmileys.com/pageindex.htm

As for the update

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« Reply #54 on: 22/06/2009 11:04:17 »
Hi Chemistry4me.  I get it.  I visited the site.  Presumably one copies the required?  And then paste?

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« Reply #55 on: 22/06/2009 11:08:57 »
Genau. (that's German for 'exactly')
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« Reply #56 on: 22/06/2009 11:14:28 »
Thanks.  That's english for gratitude.  Still looking at that profile?   [::)] [:o] [???]

That's a 'MIXED EMOTION'
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« Reply #57 on: 22/06/2009 11:39:46 »
Quote from: witsend on 22/06/2009 11:14:28
Still looking at that profile?   [::)] [:o] [???]
That's a 'MIXED EMOTION'
Well, I was thinking of writing something like: My brain agrees with the laws of entropy!
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« Reply #58 on: 22/06/2009 11:51:29 »
Here's my best guess.  Probably mid to late 20's - unmarried - live with your folks, conservative middle class background - Never took a gap year.  Only studied chemistry because of family pressure.  In fact anxious to take that year.  Lots of friends - they all think you're eccentric??  How've I done?
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« Reply #59 on: 22/06/2009 11:53:31 »
He's a scorpio and his favourite colour is green.
What is this? Mystic Meg strikes again?
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