0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Is perpetual motion a physical impossibility?
Quote from: Don_1 on 09/09/2008 11:02:44Is perpetual motion a physical impossibility? No due to impossibilities are the limitation of the imagination, and the freedom of the mind is the release of our limitations. That is the reason we have progressed as far as we have. So never say never. [8D]
It's definitely possible, provided there is a perpetual energy source......but I guess that's not really what you mean.
PM is completely impossible. Period. Imagination has nothing to do with it.
Quote from: dentstudent on 12/11/2008 08:15:41PM is completely impossible. Period. Imagination has nothing to do with it.dentstudent That is the same argument for flight in the past. Thus the limitation.
Not really - flight didn't require the re-writing of all laws of physics and maths known to man.
How do you propose to use gravity in your PM machine?
You "only" have to overcome the laws of balance, then?We'll be millionaires by Christmas!Which natural effects, what levers and what natural movement? And which understanding? And whose?And when?
All I can say is that is sad, for only an open mind can progress
If you have devices that react to all physical laws as expected, and they are added together and they have a reaction of perpetuation these actions by there positioning of rotation. How can this overall device be breaking any physical laws?
My 'unbending establishment' phrase was meant to be ironic! I don't think it is but I was replying to a sentiment which implied that someone might feel they were battling against one.
But you are wrong, I am the inventor
So it must be the romance that attracts you.
You must appreciate that every wheel in your machine that is turning must be working against friction - transferring Energy. This energy has to come from somewhere. This can only be in the form of Kinetic Energy of the movement in the device. Where else?
Anything that falls needs to be raised up again, I expect. Where will the extra energy come from after the friction has taken some away?
one and a half days is good for your machine but 'perpetual'?that includes one and a half weeks, one and a half months, one and a half . . . .
Well that is the trick isn't it
Spam, flooding, advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations are also forbidden on this forum.
I do believe a wager is for gain or loss so it falls into this category. So sorry but I must decline.
"running on gravity" implies transfer of energy. To use the gravity, something has to fall through a distance. Work done = force times distanceThat's an energy input.
For the record. I will believe in a PM machine when I see one for myself.
perpetual motiona system wherein the item in question consumes and outputs at least 100% of its energy constantly, sustaining no net loss as a result of the laws of thermodynamics.
I bought some psychotronic crystals from a man in a pub. He told me if I kept them in my car not only would I get better mpg they would protect me from the dealy waves from mobile phones masts. I got them at a special price of only £200.
Then you will have to say that gravity is an energy. But we are taught that it is a force. Thus I like the term force to energy converter.
This is my nature; I do not believe anything until completely satisfied there is no other logical explanation.
You mentioned your system going very fast. It should be able to work at snail's pace if it were truly Perpetual.
but breaking the wheel up rather than keeping it would suggest that he had something dodgey to hide. And there was a claim that it was, in fact, driven by hand.
I see that you are now suggesting that you can, in fact, get an energy flow OUT of the machine. That is really fantastic. The end to all our worries.
Just go ahead and make the thing and we unbelievers will all be proved wrong.I will even offer to come and witness it (as long as you pay my fare if I spot the flaw).Now there's an offer. And it's not a wager.