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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #17260 on: 15/02/2021 19:10:59 »
India

" Indian police have charged a 22-year-old climate activist with sedition over accusations she edited and circulated a document tweeted by climate activist Greta Thunberg relating to India’s ongoing farmer protests. "
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/15/india-activist-arrested-over-protest-toolkit-shared-by-greta-thunberg
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« Reply #17261 on: 15/02/2021 19:22:12 »
Great Thunberg, a climate terrorist, sort of Sweden's Carlos, isn't she? :)

And USA, so incredibly infected,  Mr Trumps legacy only being the top of the iceberg. This should be a joke, but it seems that it isn't. And by that I don't mean that there is any truth to her allegation. And this is supposed to be the leader of the free world, right?

The land of conspiracies.  " The discussion was prompted by speculation from the newly elected Georgia Republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene based on “research” she had conducted, that wildfires in California had been caused by a project to explore “solar generators” tenuously associated with Rothschild, “an international banking firm”.  "

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/15/jews-fear-republicans-applauded-marjorie-taylor-greene-conspiracy-theorist

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #17262 on: 15/02/2021 19:33:36 »
How about those banks investing billions in fossils 2021?

A conspiracy too?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-11/world-bank-still-investing-billions-in-fossil-fuels-study-shows

and https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/488098-four-us-banks-are-the-worlds-largest-fossil-fuel-financers-analysis
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« Reply #17263 on: 15/02/2021 19:36:28 »
Not really, it's more a question of profits, and the transition that those multinationals, and banks, fail to deliver. Year after year. And your politician is not prepared to be the one telling you that a transition will cost you. It's about infra structures, financial and assets.
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« Reply #17264 on: 15/02/2021 19:49:24 »
Planet of corruption. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-55832711

same in all of those f*ng wars. And guns being there for them all.
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« Reply #17265 on: 15/02/2021 20:06:06 »
So how do the banks behave, now that we've been hit by a recession?

https://www.fastcompany.com/90480007/banks-wont-stop-funneling-billions-of-dollars-into-the-fossil-fuel-industry
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« Reply #17266 on: 15/02/2021 20:06:52 »
There you have it. Just put it together. Profits, as long as possible.
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« Reply #17267 on: 15/02/2021 20:47:05 »
A interesting paper, building on data twenty years back, drawing the conclusion that nuclear stops people from decreasing atmospheric pollution.  Unfortunately behind a paywall, as usual.

" Differences in carbon emissions reduction between countries pursuing renewable electricity versus nuclear power "

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41560-020-00696-3#:~:text=One%20core%20finding%20is%20that,levels%20of%20national%20carbon%20emissions.&text=In%20other%20words%2C%20it%20is,lower%20levels%20of%20carbon%20emissions.
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« Reply #17268 on: 15/02/2021 20:49:48 »
And a reply to the study, disagreeing. But you have to register to get it.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3762762
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« Reply #17269 on: 15/02/2021 21:13:31 »
You might wonder if I criticize without reasons. As if your leaders, decision makers, banks, politicians being, eh, trustworthy? It's a question of definitions,  if you find profit to be all that matters for you, then they are as trustworthy as you can expect, ignoring financial crisis's and bankruptcies.
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I think this will be my joke for the day.

Otherwise  https://www.fastcompany.com/40446765/how-to-pull-your-money-out-of-a-big-bank-its-not-that-hard-i-just-did-it
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« Reply #17270 on: 15/02/2021 21:32:46 »
Now, presuming you read it.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jp-morgan-chase-bernie-ma_b_6350296?
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« Reply #17271 on: 17/02/2021 00:59:40 »
And a book, the first of a trilogy.  'Ancillary Justice' by Ann Leckie. All three are good but you need them in order :)
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« Reply #17272 on: 17/02/2021 08:02:54 »
Yep, I know you've been wondering and so have I. Who is the uncrowned leader in those renewable energy solutions.

Well, at last a answer.   Texas  ...

And it has failed !!!

"   “We should never build another wind turbine in Texas,” read a Facebook post on Tuesday by the state’s agriculture commissioner, Sid Miller.   “The experiment failed big time.”   "

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/17/conservatives-falsely-blame-renewables-for-texas-storm-outages
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« Reply #17273 on: 17/02/2021 08:37:39 »
" Divergent consensuses on Arctic amplification influence on midlatitude severe winter weather "

https://web.mit.edu/jlcohen/www/papers/Cohenetal_NGeo14.pdf

Why Texas gets snowstorms.

" Last year, Cohen co-authored a paper that found a strong uptick in winter storms in the US north-east in the decade leading up to 2018. This, Cohen and some other scientists argue, is a symptom of heating in the Arctic, occurring at a rate more than twice the global average, that is disrupting long-established climatic systems.

Cold air is normally concentrated around the north pole in the polar vortex, an area of low pressure that circulates in a tight formation in the stratosphere during winter. This rotation is likened by scientists to a spinning top, one that can meander if it is interfered with.

This interference, researchers say, is occurring through changes to the jet stream, a band of strong winds that wraps around the globe at lower elevations than the polar vortex. The warming of the Arctic, it is thought, is causing the jet stream to shift. “The energy escaping from the jet stream bangs into the polar vortex so it starts to wobble and move all over the place,” said Cohen.

“Where the polar vortex goes, so goes the cold air.”  "

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/feb/17/arctic-heating-winter-storms-climate-change

 
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« Reply #17274 on: 17/02/2021 08:41:19 »
It's funny, isn't it? I used to think, and still does, that with a greater humidity you would see more rain and more snow in Sweden. Up to this year the snow has shined with its absence as we say in Sweden. It came in the end of January, very late, this year and have stayed in February. We miss it, we like snow in winter, nature likes, and needs, it too.

Everything is changing, except you.
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« Reply #17275 on: 17/02/2021 08:43:19 »
You're just as helpless as any other species on earth, not because you lack intelligence, or information. More likely because you refuse to use it.
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« Reply #17276 on: 17/02/2021 08:47:38 »
And it's the game. Everything spins around this game of inequality and profits. And you will defend it until you die.

USA https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/feb/16/who-really-owns-the-largest-slice-of-wall-street

And I don't expect it to be that different anywhere else. Won't bother to look but I talk from experience.
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« Reply #17277 on: 17/02/2021 09:29:03 »
So that is the atmosphere, then there are oceans, and their streams.

" When ocean water freezes, forming sea ice, salt is left behind causing surrounding seawater to become saltier and denser. Dense-cold-salty water sinks to the ocean bottom. Surface water flows in to replace the sinking water, which in turn becomes cold and salty enough to sink. This "starts" the global conveyer belt, a connected system of deep and surface currents that circulate around the globe on a 1000 year time span. This global set of ocean currents is a critical part of Earth’s climate system as well as the ocean nutrient and carbon dioxide cycles. "

And this one makes me smile.    " "Our basic understanding that the collapse is unlikely still stands," said Delworth, who wasn't part of the study.   "Our uncertainty about that prediction is high."  "

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/ocean-mixing-drives-climate-found-surprise-location-60758537
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« Reply #17278 on: 17/02/2021 09:32:21 »
So there might be some centuries before the AMOC goes amok. But we don't really know. You have to remember that we're the joker here, and what you see in form of global warming comes from us digging up fossils and other pollutions. From the aspect of Earth we're a 'black swan'.

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/ocean-mixing-drives-climate-found-surprise-location-60758537
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Let's add this https://www.whoi.edu/news-insights/content/the-future-of-the-oceans-conveyor-belt/
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« Reply #17279 on: 17/02/2021 09:40:21 »
But there is another thing making itself known recently. One that can change your own 'weather' a lot faster than the AMOC, connected to the oceans.

"  The authors conclude that between 1990 and 2013, the energy of ocean currents has increased by almost 15% per decade. The estimate, if real, could have huge consequences — it could affect jet streams, weather patterns and also the amount of heat stored in the ocean’s depths. "   https://www.newsclick.in/Global-Warming-Ocean-Circulation-System

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