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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #17800 on: 04/03/2021 11:03:22 »
And who is to blame for it?

You

Your leaders, your hierarchies and your choice.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #17801 on: 04/03/2021 11:07:05 »
It doesn't matter if we blame it on the game. You will still be the representative for it. and this is what it leads too, once you find yourself in one of those states.

" A protester who witnessed the crackdown in North Okkalapa township told the Guardian that the firing was continuous. “I’m still going to go to the frontlines. If I get shot and die then so be it. I can’t stand it any more,” he said."

Welcome to society.
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« Reply #17802 on: 04/03/2021 11:19:52 »
You can't trust your papers to present it the way I do. You can't trust your radio or your television either. You can't trust anything official as the BBC to state it. Not even the Guardian. They are part of this game, the only place not entirely a part of it becomes the Internet. And that your governments wants to 'regulate'.

you're so f*ed
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« Reply #17803 on: 04/03/2021 11:25:18 »
They can't regulate it yet. Not the way China does, so the approach becomes surveillance and storing 'evidence'. If they tried the illusion of democracy would peel away. This doesn't state it's impossible to introduce. We are going to a more repressive situation the worse it becomes.
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« Reply #17804 on: 04/03/2021 11:27:25 »
and you don't believe me here either. I won't blame you for that. Still true though.
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« Reply #17805 on: 04/03/2021 11:32:35 »
The will of that civilian, going to the frontline knowing that people with guns will try to kill him is immensely closer to democracy than any 'democracy' you produce. You should be ashamed.
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« Reply #17806 on: 04/03/2021 12:15:56 »
And then we have those small nations kissing a**.  As Sweden, I sorely miss people like Hammskjöld and Palme. Not because they were free of  preconceptions but because they thought that humanity and 'rights' actually played a role.

Not only 'real politik'.

Just think of the way a Swedish court would have extradited Julian Assange.

So what happened to him, and how did the British court deem it?

http://normanfinkelstein.com/2021/01/17/what-happened-to-julian-assange/
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« Reply #17807 on: 04/03/2021 12:23:46 »
Democracy? Free speech? Whistle blowers? Human rights? Everyone's rights?

Come on, you're kissing a**
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« Reply #17808 on: 04/03/2021 12:47:32 »
So, which is the easiest way to control a crowd?

It should be the one in where you repress yourself, your thoughts, your speech, your actions. The one in where you don't want to 'stand out' from the crowd. Any state succeeding in this is repressive.
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« Reply #17809 on: 04/03/2021 12:50:01 »
It makes you into something insignificant. Something where the only thing you want to know is 'what is good for you'. Anything else and it becomes dangerous.
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« Reply #17810 on: 04/03/2021 12:51:15 »
And it makes you a herd.
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« Reply #17811 on: 04/03/2021 13:04:34 »
I'm sure you think of yourself as a 'individual', but have you ever thought about those things?
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« Reply #17812 on: 04/03/2021 13:09:27 »
It becomes a question of your degrees of freedom. The 'system' that consist of your and your society ideals and beliefs. It's not based on facts.
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« Reply #17813 on: 04/03/2021 13:10:24 »
It's not based on rights either.
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« Reply #17814 on: 04/03/2021 15:42:39 »
Hope you like physics. " What Is Meant by the Statement "motion Is Relative"? "

https://www.reference.com/science/meant-statement-motion-relative-e24e0d9c9cb1d17a

And from this to some weird thoughts.
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« Reply #17815 on: 04/03/2021 15:45:26 »
Two possible answers.

Something defined as being a in a 'relative motion' has no motion.
Something defined as being a in a 'relative motion' has a motion.


that one we can test by choosing some different objects and then compare their difference in 'relative speeds' versus our own. Doesn't matter what speed you give ourselves there, as long as we find those objects speeds to differ between them, as defined from us.


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« Reply #17816 on: 04/03/2021 15:47:38 »
So motions exist.

But, if we found a 'speed definition' telling us the 'absolute and objective' speeds of everything, would relativity still hold?
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« Reply #17817 on: 04/03/2021 15:48:44 »
That is what I look at as a 'global definition'. The one you use when you define a time dilation, relative your own clock (and ruler)
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I know, this may sound wrong to you but if you don't think in terms of relativity then this will be true.
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« Reply #17818 on: 04/03/2021 15:54:37 »
A answer from GR.  About coordinate systems and causality.    https://includestdio.com/3485.html
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the first one btw.
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« Reply #17819 on: 04/03/2021 16:00:42 »
So there is a contradiction to it. Motion exist but it is still relative. You define it without knowing your own relative motion.  And what makes your 'global definition' of a universe is not so much a question about motion, but about causality.
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