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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #17860 on: 06/03/2021 00:03:42 »
And suddenly the BBC starts to link global warming. I'm pleasantly surprised. Let's see if this is a new trend  or just a accident.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #17861 on: 06/03/2021 00:13:43 »
China is playing the game.

" China will reduce its “emissions intensity” – the amount of CO2 produced per unit of GDP – by 18% over the period 2021 to 2025, but this target is in line with previous trends, and could lead to emissions continuing to increase by 1% a year or more. Non-fossil fuel energy is targeted to make up 20% of China’s energy mix, leaving plenty of room for further expansion of the country’s coal industry."

Remember all those 'plans'?

the ones in where you can exchange 'carbon rights' for money?
Didn't work out, did they

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/05/china-five-year-plan-emissions
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #17862 on: 06/03/2021 00:21:27 »
Funny this.

" Xi Jinping, the president of China, surprised the world in September when at the UN general assembly, held virtually for the first time, he announced that the country would seek to cut its emissions to net zero by 2060.

That target is in line with scientific advice – the whole world must reach net zero emissions around mid-century to stay within 2C – but politically it was seismic. China’s previous position at climate talks was that the developed countries of the west, with their long history of industrialisation, must take on tough obligations to cut their emissions first, while emerging economies, such as China, India and Brazil, could continue to increase theirs. "

while studies I link still discuss it in terms of 1.5 Centigrade. And with China backing off, as well as India? The game doesn't go for sharing and all involved knows that. So this kind of behavior is quite normal for us.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/04/chinas-five-year-plan-for-economy-is-crucial-to-meeting-net-zero-by-2060


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« Reply #17863 on: 06/03/2021 00:33:43 »
It's weird, some of the nicest people I've meet are in India. Then again, they were ordinary people.

" According to the letter, the defendant is accused of stalking, tying up, gagging and repeatedly raping the girl and threatening to douse her in petrol, set her alight and have her brother killed.

“By suggesting that this rapist marry the victim-survivor, you, the chief justice of India, sought to condemn the victim-survivor to a lifetime of rape at the hands of the tormentor who drove her to attempt suicide,” the letter said."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/04/indias-top-judge-tells-accused-rapist-to-marry-victim-to-avoid-jail
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« Reply #17864 on: 06/03/2021 00:46:21 »
wouldn't say that this is specific to the UK only. It's a natural result of less money and more spending, it just follows the overall game plan as I think. But it points to that pointy hat, getting it right again. The game isn't that difficult to understand. You are, the game is not.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/mar/05/uk-foreign-office-discussing-aid-cuts-more-than-50-leak-reveals
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« Reply #17865 on: 06/03/2021 11:51:41 »
Seems I'm not alone in my skepticism over technology and geoengineerings abilities in 'restructuring' our environment. I shouldn't need to be either, by knowing yourself you will know others too. And behind all the bs is a human, the same as you and me. Doesn't matter what clothes he or she wears, what beliefs and ideals they have, or any sign of difference.

We did it to ourselves playing this game, with a game that has no ability of taking us out of it.
You have, but you need to change.

Most of what is stated in this article are stuff you can find me saying through the years, and where it might differ will be in what I don't agree too. As stating that we're 'Gods'. That's just bs. Can't help noticing that the world seems to work on bs sometimes. As per your decision makers, politicians, etc etc.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/mar/06/it-is-the-question-of-the-century-will-tech-solve-the-climate-crisis-or-make-it-worse
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« Reply #17866 on: 06/03/2021 12:00:34 »
So what does that mean? " You are, the game is not. "

Well, you know the facts but you can't stand them. You lie to yourself and you lie to others. There is a lesson global warming will give you. That lies won't change facts.
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« Reply #17867 on: 06/03/2021 12:11:28 »
I discussed it before and I will discuss it again. This idea of getting to 'net zero' 2060. So what does it mean?

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/explainer-real-math-net-carbon-emissions-74678982
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« Reply #17868 on: 06/03/2021 12:13:10 »
You won't get there, what you will get to by thinking in those terms are geoengineerings. and those will be as nails, driven into a coffin.
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« Reply #17869 on: 06/03/2021 12:14:09 »
We need to backup at least a hundred years to be safe. In terms of temperatures.
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« Reply #17870 on: 06/03/2021 12:15:14 »
It's the probabilities you have to look at, and what is happening today, not tomorrow, today.
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« Reply #17871 on: 06/03/2021 12:19:07 »
Were' already in a unstable regime. And no matter what climate science might think, or not think, about the time scales of decrease, of green house gasses once we stopped distributing them, we're already there. There is another lesson there that most people ignore. That you always should prepare for the bleakest alternative if you want something to be done.
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« Reply #17872 on: 06/03/2021 12:24:06 »
I would it say it pretty well follows our normal behavior, in times of close personal loss. Of family members, or for yourself, learning that you only have a year or some months left to live. Your inability of acceptance. The way you learn to accept it. It's the same with global warming, but it's the whole game meeting it, not only you.
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« Reply #17873 on: 06/03/2021 12:26:41 »
It won't change before we get a majority accepting it, that something can be done. And the problem with the game is that those that have the most to lose also will be the last to accept it. It pushes all solutions into a future.


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« Reply #17874 on: 06/03/2021 12:30:46 »
And it's a death of a thousand cuts culminating in a perfect storm. By that I'm stating that you need to include a lot more than global warming to it. Mono plantations and nations, artificial fertilizers, pesticides and seeds, the conveyor belt principle, species extinctions, migrations, geopolitics and wars to name a few.
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« Reply #17875 on: 06/03/2021 12:31:37 »
They will all 'drive' each other, together with global warming.
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« Reply #17876 on: 06/03/2021 12:36:13 »
All of them examples of the same thinking and technology that now drives those expecting more 'geoengineerings' to fix it. We already done our geoengineerings, and this is the result of them
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« Reply #17877 on: 06/03/2021 13:22:01 »
You can look at it as a race, between acceptance and extinction. So far extinction leads. A lot of it can be blamed on those you chose to lead you. But it would also be a lie. You chose them, don't you? Why do you keep on doing it? Never taking any responsibility, building a whole game on the same, always looking for some 'new leader'. It's you, you're the one to blame.
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« Reply #17878 on: 06/03/2021 13:32:20 »
There are things you can do to mitigate it. One kid per person, change infra structures, not only the fuel. Get yourself a real democracy and disconnect the worst extremes from your decisions. Share and accept that all wallets must shrink if we want a change. Build nuclear for a transition to renewables as the population goes down. Draw back, give nature a chance, and be very careful with what you think you can 'geoengineer and mono plant. Think before you act. Stop selling arms and dismantle the nuclear race, use it as fuel for molten salt reactors. Change the f*ng game.
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« Reply #17879 on: 06/03/2021 13:36:11 »
There are more things we can do, but I think those should be major ones. Changing the game you play, but it won't happen as long as you don't change.

so you will be the one to blame, won't you?
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