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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #18260 on: 13/03/2021 12:56:24 »
It reminds me a lot of chaos theory in where you stack uncertainty upon certainty.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #18261 on: 13/03/2021 12:58:41 »
Where you can find a pattern to something inherently chaotic.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #18262 on: 13/03/2021 13:07:34 »
https://tomrocksmaths.com/2020/05/22/searching-for-clarity-patterns-chaos-theory-and-nature/

and this https://physicsworld.com/a/the-secret-of-the-synchronized-pendulums/
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #18263 on: 13/03/2021 13:11:18 »
When you look at 'energy', the 'coin of exchange' as JP defined it, and entanglements we seem to find that entanglements can exchange energy. We have examples of it from nature.
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« Reply #18264 on: 13/03/2021 13:12:29 »
that puts the question of whether entanglements also becomes a form of meaningful information.
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« Reply #18265 on: 13/03/2021 13:14:44 »
Does a energy transfer contain information?

And what if it does it 'ftl'?
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« Reply #18266 on: 13/03/2021 13:15:52 »
All of it connecting to what I think of as 'scales', the scale you measure from, the scale you look at.
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« Reply #18267 on: 13/03/2021 13:18:28 »
Using my definitions it becomes a presumption to assume that you can set a clock to the very small even though you can define probabilities for it. What guarantees that your local macroscopic clock is what defines it?
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« Reply #18268 on: 13/03/2021 13:20:52 »
order out of disorder. Decisions out of a real democracy.
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« Reply #18269 on: 13/03/2021 13:21:29 »
It all connects in my mind.
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« Reply #18270 on: 13/03/2021 14:26:23 »
So is entanglements breaking this law of information? No, they need to have meet, or at least have a 'common origin' in time and space to even become entangled. They then need to separate from each other spatially which is limited by the speed of light in a vacuum.

But you still have the question if you can make it meaningful. F.ex a fuel consisting of entangled particles of a high energy density with a counterpart measured by us at the sun, probing each particle and so adding even more energy to it. And that energy will be spread over the whole system of those entangled 'bits' that you then measure on.

Each entanglement by itself of course.
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« Reply #18271 on: 13/03/2021 14:28:49 »
Using that you can define energy as you do space. Able to 'move' faster than light.
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« Reply #18272 on: 13/03/2021 14:32:59 »
Well, I keep telling you. It's a very weird universe.
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« Reply #18273 on: 13/03/2021 14:42:19 »
It's correct, as far as I know. Energy can 'move' faster than light.
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« Reply #18274 on: 13/03/2021 14:43:56 »
And that one also connect to this infinite universe I define, and in what mean it is 'infinite'. It's infinite to us, not to 'energy'. It's infinite to us, not to 'photons'.
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« Reply #18275 on: 13/03/2021 14:46:22 »
I don't want a 'finity' to it. You're crazy to want one. A finite universe assumes a outside, becoming as Russian dolls, gaining its own 'infinity' of in and out-sides.
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« Reply #18276 on: 13/03/2021 14:52:10 »
Well, maybe I'm wrong using photons for it. I'm not wrong using energy though. Photons have a 'time stamp' on them, that's how we define a origin of time, and space. So they can't 'propagate' further in main stream physics than some 13.7 billion light years. No matter a space expanding accelerating etc. That has no meaning for light, it just red shift it. The time stamp stands the same.
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« Reply #18277 on: 13/03/2021 14:54:09 »
And that one connects to how you want to define that 'propagation', 'emanations' in a field? Or as some 'ball' moving?
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« Reply #18278 on: 13/03/2021 14:55:11 »
If your definition is a emanation, then I'm right there too, I think? Because then they don't 'move'. They are just a result of the laws, rules and properties defining our universe.
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« Reply #18279 on: 13/03/2021 15:01:36 »
And if you think of it this way. As the universe is defined by common laws, rules and properties, everywhere and at any time, it becomes quite preposterous to expect that this will differ just by you 'teleporting' to the furthest star you can define, then expecting those to become 'broken' by you moving.
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