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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #67680 on: 06/06/2025 10:51:42 »
And our forests then? Well, whatever that means as our old growth 'natural' forests more or less gone in the West

https://www.iufro.org/news-item/forests-to-fall-victim-to-the-humpty-dumpty-effect-leading-scientists-reveal-a-precautionary-tale
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« Reply #67681 on: 06/06/2025 10:53:36 »
No forests, no water, no topsoil, no insects, no birds. And you idiots going to war
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« Reply #67682 on: 06/06/2025 10:55:17 »
Yeah, said I wouldn't call them, and you

Too easy to lose it those days
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« Reply #67683 on: 06/06/2025 10:57:46 »
But you could start with asking yourself if those politicians really are representative of you
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #67684 on: 06/06/2025 11:20:58 »
I usually try to avoid links leading to paywalls etc. So if you couldn't read Bloombergs article?


https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/1318878-india-laying-foundation-for-nuclear-water-war-with-pakistan-warns-bilawal
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #67685 on: 06/06/2025 12:48:26 »
so

USA around 7% century old forests left

https://www.gatheringgrowth.org/about

https://www.opb.org/article/2024/09/03/a-photographer-captures-life-in-americas-last-remaining-old-growth-forests/

Sweden around 8%, and clear cutting it

https://theconversation.com/sweden-has-vast-old-growth-forests-but-they-are-being-chopped-down-faster-than-the-amazon-218753

England,  no percentage found, but this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ancient_Woods_in_England

And century old? Maybe I should have looked for 'untouched forests'
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« Reply #67686 on: 06/06/2025 12:49:30 »
That's us, now add global warming, droughts, floods, wildfires, eco and biodiversity
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« Reply #67687 on: 06/06/2025 12:54:35 »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2025/06/06/canada-fires-smoke-maps/

And some happy news for you

https://www.rcinet.ca/eye-on-the-arctic/2025/06/05/surge-in-boreal-wildfires-may-surprisingly-slow-arctic-warming-study/
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« Reply #67688 on: 06/06/2025 12:56:44 »
Let's hope for more wildfires, right?

and methane

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/acf50b
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« Reply #67689 on: 06/06/2025 13:08:16 »
As always, for Russia it is harder to get information about those kind of things

But you have this

https://earth.org/deforestation-in-russia/

and  https://woodcentral.com.au/russias-timber-grab-oligarchs-take-axe-to-old-growth-forests/
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« Reply #67690 on: 06/06/2025 13:09:07 »
No real difference maybe, just different 'practices', if we look at what's left and ignore the narratives
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« Reply #67691 on: 06/06/2025 13:09:38 »
What's 'lawful' today may be a crime tomorrow.
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« Reply #67692 on: 06/06/2025 13:10:44 »
one thing is clear though

You're f*ed, and so are your kids
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« Reply #67693 on: 06/06/2025 13:15:16 »
So what do you say?


Do they represent you?
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« Reply #67694 on: 07/06/2025 09:32:22 »
How f*ed?

Let's take our canary in the coal mines

on one side

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-27/recovery-to-take-a-long-time-nsw-farms-devastated-floods/105338344

on the other

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-25/nsw-floods-and-drought-in-australia-south/105308966





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« Reply #67695 on: 07/06/2025 09:37:17 »
China meeting much the same

What's interesting though is the reactions from those hit, even when standing in front of a catastrophe

" "I believe the Australian climate has always been a land of droughts and floods," she said. "

Don't take much to guess where she stands, in her / their opinion of global warming, and doesn't take much to guess at what stage of denial they're in. You can either see it as admirable and a proof of human resilience and optimism, or as a proof of how stubborn we can be once we've decided what to believe in.
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« Reply #67696 on: 07/06/2025 09:41:52 »
And no matter what

Canberra and that Australian government won't stop global warming. Even if they stopped with their gas and oil today. We've already passed that point of returrn
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« Reply #67697 on: 07/06/2025 09:43:40 »
And then we take a look at this one again

"There are important ways in which today's reality differs from the hypothetical SSP3 world. World population projections are significantly lower, for instance. And the development of climate tech has been "much more successful", Riahi said."

https://phys.org/news/2025-06-scientists-envisioned-climate-cooperation.html
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« Reply #67698 on: 07/06/2025 09:44:38 »
Which is total bs
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« Reply #67699 on: 07/06/2025 09:47:43 »
https://keelingcurve.ucsd.edu/

the emission curve pointing upwards, and accelerating. For that it doesn't matter why. If it is us alone or a combination of disappearing carbon sinks combined with us, and of course new 'natural' carbon sources.

the evidence is clear any which way.

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