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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #7560 on: 27/11/2019 01:01:08 »
That doesn't state that time isn't a construction too though, but we still see a origin of it.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #7561 on: 27/11/2019 01:07:13 »
It's worth pondering. The universe being infinite, provably so, but time not. Time will give you the same result no matter from where you stand looking. Three 'infinite' dimensions, one with a 'origin'. And a 'Big Bang' starting 'everywhere'.
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« Reply #7562 on: 27/11/2019 01:11:03 »
Einstein defined it as a dimension. SpaceTime as if the four dimensions we then define all glue together.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #7563 on: 27/11/2019 01:19:02 »
And globally defined they are fluid. Locally it doesn't matter for me what you see as true though. It's all a result of ones frame of reference. But as we saw the idea of a global interpretation is highly questionable. 'The pole in the barn' isn't a global representation, it's a story told from two different but equivalently true frames of reference. the conclusion that it can't happen comes from a flawed argument, that there exist a 'global golden standard' of reference frame.
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No, I won't tell you what it was. Let it die in peace :)
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« Reply #7564 on: 27/11/2019 01:24:57 »
And that is weird. You might want to think that there is no logic to it, but it's actually the opposite. There's only logic to it. And if it is true, what does it make the universe you look out at?
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« Reply #7565 on: 27/11/2019 01:56:06 »
Looking at what I wrote, do you want to know what I find weirdest with physics?
that it still becomes simpler to understand than humans :)
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« Reply #7566 on: 27/11/2019 12:26:41 »
Hmm, light?

No time to it, still able to be directed from A to B, and interacting with everything of substance in between. In a vacuum there are no interactions unless there is mass in the direction of it. Doesn't age.

Entanglements, sharing properties in between themselves due to somehow getting correlated through 'bumping' or 'splitting'. Those properties continuing a communication ignoring the geometry. Also out of time.
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« Reply #7567 on: 27/11/2019 12:29:40 »
Everything inside time obey 'c'
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« Reply #7568 on: 27/11/2019 12:30:07 »
Time is 'c'
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« Reply #7569 on: 27/11/2019 12:33:51 »
It's like a regime. You can't stop time, nothing can inside this universe. Observer dependencies can't, entropy can't, which actually becomes a pretty good argument for entropy and time not being the exact same. Because you can have a system where entropy can act either way, as in some isolated patch of it.
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« Reply #7570 on: 27/11/2019 12:36:54 »
The best you can do is to put it on hold, and that is through observer dependencies. The clock rate of some other object slowing down to such a degree that it becomes impossible to see.
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« Reply #7571 on: 27/11/2019 12:39:06 »
So time has a origin, being the Big Bang, and it can't be stopped as in becoming reversed. SpaceTime then has a motion into the future.
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« Reply #7572 on: 27/11/2019 12:41:35 »
But if light doesn't propagate?
What is 'c'?
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« Reply #7573 on: 27/11/2019 12:42:46 »
You could also call it a field, of 'c', having a arrow.
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« Reply #7574 on: 27/11/2019 12:45:20 »
Quantum physically it's about probabilities. Standard theory tells us that there is a logical array or matrix of particles, interacting classically in defined ways.
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« Reply #7575 on: 27/11/2019 12:49:40 »
Even though there exist mathematical suggestions in where you theoretically could 'reverse' time (locally)  I don't expect that to be allowed. If it was allowed we would see the results of it.
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« Reply #7576 on: 27/11/2019 12:51:27 »
And , even if you 'reverse' it doesn't change the direction of your arrow. Which means that even though it's a local effect applied on a universe it also presumes not you, but the universe, to 'reverse'. That would be magic to me.
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« Reply #7577 on: 27/11/2019 12:53:24 »
Okay, if we take the idea of every frame of reference having it's own universe then? that is relativity, as soon as you stepped out of your safety zone.
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« Reply #7578 on: 27/11/2019 12:58:42 »
Yeah, but we still 'glue together' into communication, finding a same arrow? Nah, and the logic of a time reversal also open for paradoxes that only can be solved by splitting the universe you had before the reversal into a 'new' coming to be in your reversal.

Let's talk 'energy', what do you think the requirements are for a 'new' Big Bang, fast spooled forward to wherever you placed yourself temporally in this 'split' universe?
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« Reply #7579 on: 27/11/2019 13:45:22 »
Ok, there is a loophole. It's called ''many worlds' in where every outcome from probability is realized, although only one here. You might want to assume that we then just change coordinates towards a already 'existing universe'. But now we step into philosophy, and it becomes a quagmire. What defines you uniquely? Your 'soul'? If there is no soul then? The way you are and experiences? In that universe you won't have existed before, and even though you should have a twin partner there, probably if alive, you could argue that 'it's not me'.
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