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Since I know that there are more than 1 consiousnes in the world I know that any suggestion that there is only one must be wrong.I don't need to waste my time on learning the details or even reading it. It's plainly false.
i agree with bored chemist wholeheartedly. you don't need to read the bible to know that the idea of Yahweh's existence is not scientifically plausible. besides that, you have to assume that consciousness is something material, definable. consciousness is larger than the sum of it's parts, i think. scientific research into consciousness is still very much in it's infancy.also, you're using QM to explain classical phenomenon. why you're attempting this with a biological, complex system when the unification between QM and the macroscopic world has not even been done on the level of simple atomic structures like carbon and graphite is confusing, scientifically, but of course is fascinating 
"Your logic restricts this entire hypothesis. "It's not just My logic; any logic shows this is rubbish."Tell me, since i know of only one universe does this mean that the idea of other universes couldn't be plausible? - i mean, this is the logic you are appealing to."No it's the exact oposite. I know there's More than one."We are already aware of the strange predictions of quantum mechanics,"And a none of them are proven false by the evidence like your idea.
Mr "Scientist" you say "Oh you know there is more then one?"Yes, I know it because of the evidence.There is, for example, one that realises there's more than one, and a second, who doesn't.At the moment, the nearest thing to evidence you have is some fairy story about quantum trafic lights.On that basis, you seem to be trying to rewrite physics.Do you realise that you cannot win this argument?If you were right then you would be arguing against yourself so you couldn't hope to win.If not then you are wrong so you won't win.
"Quantum mechanics allows for illusions. I'll give you another; one which mirrors the idea. Ever heard of the Single Electron Universe Theory?"Yes, but I have never heard the sugestion that the electron can argue with itself.There are clearly two "selfs" here- one is consious of the fact that (from its point of view) your idea is right and the other is consious of the fact that (from its point of view) it isn't.That proves that they are different.If they are different then they cannot be the same; there must be (at least) two.
You've just described what was needed. Thank you.
Quote from: Mr. Scientist on 14/10/2009 23:30:36You've just described what was needed. Thank you.So, provided that an electron has a mind which can hold two mutually exclusive ideas at the same time then the idea that there is only one consciousness might be correct.Thanks for sharing that.
If there's only one consciousness don't you mean papers that prove yourself wrong?