[tony6789 (OP)]

y do frogs hop? they got 4 legs?

- Big T

[time-cop]

someone said that the time of the creation and garden of eden,was approximately 4000 bc,this coincides with the change by early humans to a pastoral life,instead of being hunter gatherers,and they have placed this in the euphrates/tigres valley,so did early man just have more time to wonder about his environment and who put in there,you only have to watch a child play to see how fantastically inventive the human mind is,i would never condemn or ridicule some one for their beliefs,i personally dont believe, my choice, and everyone should be able to have their own choice,and not be press-ganged into a belief.

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[tony6789 (OP)]

SO i guess no 1 will really know till they die huh?

- Big T

[neilep]

quote:Originally posted by tony6789

SO i guess no 1 will really know till they die huh?

- Big T

You're spot on there Tony.

Let your imagination take flight.

You may find comfort in a belief of God...millions and millions do...and they may be right..

Personally, I sometimes think I want to believe but I just can not take that leap of faith like others can and do....so, I always remain open and available to be convinced but it has to be convincing enough to my satisfaction...



Men are the same as women, just inside out !

[tony6789 (OP)]

Same here i want to believe it but it just doesnt eem possible...

- Big T

[gecko]

if i was to just choose, facts aside, how id like the universe to be, id definitely choose no god or creator. we all command our own actions and morality and that gives me much more comfort then "something else" doing it. note thats not the reason i believe there isnt one.

i just cant understand this atheist in pain syndrome...'i want to have faith in some vague, wishy-washy impossible thing, but im just so tortured by critical thinking and sense!'

whats the big deal? be proud of your ability to reason, so then you wont drink the kool aid when hale-bopp comes around again(im probably mixing up 2 groups of nutjobs)

[tony6789 (OP)]

Y wouldnt u want to have a god? In most religions "God" is portraied as a kind, loveing, genourous, and forgiving...ummm...thing....or spirt. So y wouldnt u want God?(I am speaking, of course, of the God that ties in with Jesus and the Saints)

- Big T

[Laith]

i agree with tony, and they also offer more life after death..

Laith

[another_someone]

quote:Originally posted by Laith

i agree with tony, and they also offer more life after death..

Laith

I thought Buddhism, which lacks a God (although some variants have mixed atheistic core Buddhism with local theistic beliefs), and yet is the pre-eminent religion for reincarnation.

George

[gecko]

i do not want to live in a universe with a "god" because i do not want a supreme authority figure or even a loving father figure watching over me. i dont want a "right" and a "wrong", i want to decide these things for myself. i think individualism is far more important than some sort of maternal love with the invisible.

as far as life after death, thats a different question, its not really asking me about god because its not neccesarily one and the same. however, i dont want to believe in life after death either. living this one life is painting my masterpiece, and i dont know if i could take more than 75-100 years of keeping myself occupied. why would you want to live more than that? life is already long enough.

[tony6789 (OP)]

y? thats what im asking. y wouldnt y want "the ultimate protector" by ur side?

- Big T

[Hadrian]

Would you?
 


What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say.

[JimBob]

quote:Originally posted by Hadrian


Would you?
 


What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say.

Agreed - It can be a very frightening approach.


The mind is like a parachute. It works best when open.  -- A. Einstein

[Hadrian]

Turn your attention away from the surface of you mind and sink into the joy and peace in the depths of your hart. Only there will you be whit the I am.  



What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say.

[tony6789 (OP)]

ok back 2 the arguement. then how do u people explain exercism? when a demon controls the body.

NEVER! underestimate youth

[gecko]

you are the reason people think americans are stupid(i am one, by the way). you keep asking for scientific explanations of supposed actions by your obviously pseudo-christian abrahamic god. look at the whole world man. its bigger than one silly belief system and vision of god.

[Carolyn]

quote:Originally posted by gecko

you are the reason people think americans are stupid(i am one, by the way). you keep asking for scientific explanations of supposed actions by your obviously pseudo-christian abrahamic god. look at the whole world man. its bigger than one silly belief system and vision of god.

You are so wrong!  You just called a 13 year old boy stupid.  What kind of person are you?  This young man is curious and looking for answers. How are kids supposed to learn if they don't ask questions?  Curious children aren't the reason SOME people think SOME americans are stupid.  Maybe you should do a little scientific research before you make such ignorant assumptions.  

Carolyn

[gecko]

i did not realize this person was 13, and am truly sorry. really.

i might have been taking out some vain agression where i shouldntve been.

im very embarrased

[neilep]

Tony is our resident youth !...and gecko was not aware of his age...and also, though I can see the inference of Geckos post he didn't actually say Tony was stupid directly. Though, the implication was there.

Unfortunately this topic ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS generates debate, frustration, confusion, anger and a whole host of other emotions which because of the nature of ' GOD ' are self perpetuating....the fact of the matter is ..I can't prove there is not a GOD and others can't prove there is a GOD.....

These topics(about God and Religion)  never have a resolution...because we just do not know...so all we can do is philosophise, speculate and elaborate on our personal points of view.

I am sure Tony is Ok and it's nice of Gecko to apologise as such.

Men are the same as women, just inside out !

[neilep]

If you really want to debate GOD I can direct you to a forum where Philosophies, God/lack of God and Religions of ALL types are openly discussed and debated with accord and discord but always with an open mind and respect.

Tony, you will find it an excellent site...in fact everone will.

let me know []

Men are the same as women, just inside out !