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Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?

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Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
« Reply #220 on: 17/08/2012 19:53:25 »
^ I wanted to add something. After reading through all of these pages and seeing how many similarities we had I realized I should not have left a particular part out. I left it out because I thought it unrelated, but now I see it is worth mentioning.

Others have said that "things pop into their head." I have experienced that as well. There are 3 different types of of this occurrence in my experience. Two of which seem to be disordered memories or events.

1. Dream memory: You have a memory fragment of a dream you had last night. There are particular pieces of that dream fragment that are striking to you. Later that day a portion of that dream fragment occurs. Here is an example, one of many that I have experienced. I have a dream that I crash my car into an absurdly yellow sports car. A few hours after waking I recall that fragment, and notice that the yellow color of the car, it's sporty nature, and the crash seems to be very strong in the fragment. As I drive I take particular attention to anything yellow. I see a car with an extremely yellow bumper sticker and the driver is behaving like he has a sports car. Later down the highway the car takes a deep right turn into the next lane so that he can make a wide left turn and nearly hits me as I pass him in the straight way lane (half way into my lane). The striking nature of the memory fragment causes me to be cautious of yellow while driving thus preventing me from getting into a wreck. The striking parts of the dreams are never wrong or inaccurate. It's like the emotions of that day find their selves in your dreams the night before. The emotion gets coded into a dream. The striking parts of that dream segment are the emotions of a future event.

2. Reversed memory: "stuff popping into your head" in the wrong order of time. Example you walk across an area and look at a particular spot on the ground that day and think "why do I always see bugs turned upside down?" "Should I help them up or are they upside down on purpose because they are dying and in pain. If I happen to see a bug upside down how will I know if I should turn him over? (note I have heard that bugs turn themselves over when they are in pain to lessen the pain) Two hours later you are walking across that same area, and in the same spot on the ground you looked at before there is a bug turned upside down. It's as if your memory is in reverse. (like 1 this happens way too much to comfortably call it coincidence). Same with the movie thing or others. The process of thinking is in reverse, you are thinking about the event before it has happened.

3. Reverse deja-vu. This has only happened to me once. Unlike regular deja-vu that happens at the end of an event this happens before the event. You feel the same way as a normal deja-vu only instead of "that has happened before" it's "I know whats going to happen now". When it happened for me I knew exactly what was going to happen for ~eight minutes. I knew exact timing, the exact sentence and tone of everything that would be said and all events that would happen. It was like I already saw the movie, only it was real life. I had no more knowledge of the events than I would have had as a single observer. Or in other words I only knew what my normal 5 senses would then experience over the course of those eight minutes.

It surprises me how automatic we learned to dull pain, change our temperature, "hide" ourselves from attention or reveal ourselves. I just did these things when I needed to, I didn't have to learn them, I just did it automatically like scratching an itch.

Has anyone else been able to locate people you care about? Almost like a compass?

..(these are my empirical observations of my experience with vig. Like a patient before a doctor I can only describe the symptoms as I perceive them.)
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Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
« Reply #221 on: 18/08/2012 14:47:18 »
I AM currently reading all 9 pages to see IF anybody has mentioned that when they breathe IN and OUT they can cause their goosebumps to RISE and FALL respectively?

'imagine' you are breathing in the manna with each and every breath?

resulting in waves of goosebumps, crown on fire, hairs on arms and legs standing on end....etc...exhilaration, addictive too...

feels very yummy by the way...given a choice between having orgasms or TRUTH chills as I call these goosebumps now, associated with your reawakened NEO within, the inner NEO-Neanderthal actually which is still alive in the right brain, as your intuitive guide...

That would be my spin on it and according to the book by Stan Gooch at least...The Dream Culture of the Neanderthals
I might not be far from this INTUITIVE Truth.

well that's my NEO trick for now, trying to improve on it, how I came to be struck by the thunderbolt/lightning of ZeuS and Thor is yet another story in itself.

In order to tell that part of my narrative I will need to introduce the archetypal 'SS', a MEME memory that seems to get carried forward through space time.

namaste



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Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
« Reply #222 on: 01/09/2012 18:15:42 »
I also can make my brain twitch. It starts from the top of my head and goes all the way to my toes and finger tips. If I make my brain twitch a lot it will make me sneeze. Once my aunt twisted her ankle and i grabed her foot and put my fingers on her ankle. I made the wave go down to my finger tips. She said she felt a thud and that her ankle quit hurtting. After that she said her ankle never hurt after that moment. I dont know if that means anything... But I saw this and I thought i was the only one who could do this.
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Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
« Reply #223 on: 10/09/2012 02:56:42 »
I have also been able to do this since I was very young. Actually didn't even notice the goosebumps till right now. But that "wave" feeling is what I typically use it for. Whenever I get headaches I use that feeling to soothe the headache. Quite useful for that purpose alone.
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Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
« Reply #224 on: 15/09/2012 16:21:37 »
soo how many people can really do this? to me it is not difficult to give myself goosebumps on call. i dont know much about this so called "ability" to say the very least. i would like to ask a few questions though.

should i tell my doctor, are there any materials related to this post that i can read and how do you stop the gag effect?

do any of you experience a gag reflex that litterally chokes you, forcing you to stop? i do and sometimes think that this is something we shouldnt do to ourselves.

 ive been able to give myself goosebumps for quite sometime but didnt really figure out how to manipulate this effect until after i hit my head and healed up. i cant say that it isnt a cool thing to do or that it wont impress people if your good at it but is it really safe? i ask myself over and over, is it safe to do this almost every time it happens. could i choke to death or could you choke to death? i really want to know if any of you gag most of all. sometimes it just opens up full throtle and i end up gagging. i know it feels good and all but i dont want to die. sometimes its just triggered and i cant do a damn thing about it except gag and choke until it stops.

anyone, anyone at all know how to stop the gag?

p.s. awesome thread, tickled me silly enough to register.
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Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
« Reply #225 on: 21/09/2012 13:58:09 »
I'm not sure if this is relevant or not but I can trigger a chill/wave to go down my spine at will. Now I haven't always had the ability to do this, but I remember discovering this "ability" when I was 8 (I am now 20yrs old).

Now every time I do this there's a sound and a feeling that I get. It feels like a slight pressure behind my eyes and it sounds identical to when you plug your ears and can hear what I can only assume to be the air pressure. After many years I've now mastered triggering that sound and feeling.

A few notes about what this is/does as it is normally hard to describe.

1) At first I could only achieve this feeling when I closed my eyes. This is still the "easiest" method

2) Around the age of 13 I became able to achieve this while staring upward, as if I were to roll my eyes.

3) At 18, I could now achieve this feeling/sound without moving my eyes at all. This is where things began to get very interesting as up until this point I had assumed my eyes were the key to this whole process.

Now onto the effect.

Immediately after I achieve this sound and feeling in my head a chill, that seems to originate from either my shoulders or neck, travels down my spine. Now after recent experimenting with this whole process I can now control the direction of this "chill". I've recently sent it down my left arm and when I could no longer feel this "chill" my arm immediately felt warm and then like pins and needles.

I'll answer any questions anyone may have about this. I thought it was relatable to the topic.

In truth the whole thing freaks me out a little, as I don't know anyone else who can do this. It seems like I can mentally control more in my body than should seem possible.
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Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
« Reply #226 on: 21/09/2012 16:03:42 »
Quote from: Ryjo on 21/09/2012 13:58:09
I'm not sure if this is relevant or not but I can trigger a chill/wave to go down my spine at will. Now I haven't always had the ability to do this, but I remember discovering this "ability" when I was 8 (I am now 20yrs old).

Now every time I do this there's a sound and a feeling that I get. It feels like a slight pressure behind my eyes and it sounds identical to when you plug your ears and can hear what I can only assume to be the air pressure. After many years I've now mastered triggering that sound and feeling.

A few notes about what this is/does as it is normally hard to describe.

1) At first I could only achieve this feeling when I closed my eyes. This is still the "easiest" method

2) Around the age of 13 I became able to achieve this while staring upward, as if I were to roll my eyes.

3) At 18, I could now achieve this feeling/sound without moving my eyes at all. This is where things began to get very interesting as up until this point I had assumed my eyes were the key to this whole process.

Now onto the effect.

Immediately after I achieve this sound and feeling in my head a chill, that seems to originate from either my shoulders or neck, travels down my spine. Now after recent experimenting with this whole process I can now control the direction of this "chill". I've recently sent it down my left arm and when I could no longer feel this "chill" my arm immediately felt warm and then like pins and needles.

I'll answer any questions anyone may have about this. I thought it was relatable to the topic.

In truth the whole thing freaks me out a little, as I don't know anyone else who can do this. It seems like I can mentally control more in my body than should seem possible.

Hi Ryjo

It seems like you have discovered the ability that other people have when then move their ears !

....What i mean is ...clearly by some circumstance you found a way to move a muscle or twinge a nerve impulse that is usually outside the purview of our usual capabilities.

Thing is...now what do you do with this skill ?
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Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
« Reply #227 on: 25/09/2012 14:07:20 »
Well I guess I'll continue playing around with it. I mean as I said, I discovered this ability at the age of 8 and since then I've been learning about and expanding on it. To put it into simplest terms, it's like have new hand and I'm mastering the use of all the fingers.

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Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
« Reply #228 on: 28/09/2012 12:17:04 »
My understanding of this from my gathering resources is that goosebumps is a reflex which is controlled by the cerebellum, I believe that the motor and the conscious parts of the brain is connected to the cerebellum and can be controlled willingly.
This cannot normally be controlled because it is a reflex that was used in our ancestor's primitive hunter and gatherer lifestyle. But for some strange reason we are able to control it. The most primitive answer to why we can is that it is a learned ability or our brains has made that connection between the motor part and the cerebellum. But actual scientific research into this subject will probably leave answers similar to synesthesia. But this is all observations and guess work.
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Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
« Reply #229 on: 12/10/2012 18:59:49 »
I too am able to give myself goosebumps at will, to do so i think of being cold and a cloth scrubbing on carpet(I hate that sound) I am as of yet unable to to many other unusual things, this may be due to the fact I only found i could have goosebumps at will a few months ago, although I can rid myself of small aches and pains by willing them away. (not sure if that is uncommon)
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Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
« Reply #230 on: 22/10/2012 03:53:23 »
Hello all been about a year since my last post.

Glad to see the discussion lives on.I've been somewhat neglecting my research on this subject but am back no so will hopefully be passing on useful ideas/info etc.

I'm feeling that it won't be long till the moderators decide to close the topic saying it's "not scientific enough"

Makes you wonder if they'd have joined in hanging Issac Newton for his "crazy ideas" about gravity lol

Anyways should that ever happen i was thinkin we could do  with a group or website or something where we would be free to discuss this.Whilst i lean to the scientific side of things,i'm not fool enough to believe science holds all the answers,hell they can't even marry up quantum theory and general relativity etc.

But that aside,i think the very fact that so many people posting so very similar things,sometimes word for word must mean that there is some substance to it and that we should continue collecting as much data as possibile.

Anyways anyone know of/capable of hosting a forum or something to discuss this subject matter in more detail?

Onto another subject though.I'd like to just say hello to all those reading and all those who posted me/emailed me on the subject.Whilst i have mainly been gone over the last year i've still taken time to talk to those with questions on the subject and hopefully i've given some satisfying answers.

I'm more than happy to continue talking and helping those who wish it and by all means feel free to PM or email :johnbrown406@msn.com if you have questions,think you could host/help host a more suitable place to talk on this subject or would like to talk in private on anything you feel is related to the subject be it scientific or otherwise-  I have an open mind
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Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
« Reply #231 on: 03/11/2012 01:06:45 »
Its funny if you think about it but what if this was a natural thing for us? I can do this as well like all of you and I, as well, thought i was alone. After reading all of your posts i can see that if we were born into the world that was meant for everything and not just us then it would come naturally. This is only anecdotal evidence but isn't that what our imaginations are for? Just a thought.
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Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
« Reply #232 on: 07/11/2012 21:17:15 »
Well, I also joined just to post here.  I first noticed I could do this when I was in rehab, and when standing outside on a hot, humid day (hot = 100+ degrees!)  I started to notice a wave of static electricity that would always start at the base of my neck and spread towards my extremities, producing goosebumps on my back, arms and/or legs, and accompanied by a very pleasant relaxing sensation, a sense of inner peace.  If they are strong enough, it is also accompanied by a cold chill followed by a pleasurable shudder and/or deep sigh that actually seems to increase the intensity momentarily, like shaking a guitar while one is holding a sustained note.  Unlike a genuine cold chill that is uncomfortable, this feels more like a much needed cool breeze on a hot summer day, except that on that day there was no cool breeze, which is what made it stick out in my mind as unusual.  It usually doesn't last very long, but if I concentrate I can command successive waves that sometimes get weaker, and other times get stronger each time, but never lasting more than maybe 30 seconds or so total.  I also notice an increased depth perception, as well as a slight brightening of lights and colors.  In that moment, I feel that I am in tune with the universe, as if I am standing back and seeing the connection between all things.  For a while I was simply in awe, since it is the closest thing I have ever had to a "spiritual" experience without some kind of mind altering substance, but over time I started to realize I could will myself into this state with enough practice in the same way one realizes that they are dreaming and that the whole dream is a construction of their own design.  You see, reality is a story that the mind tells itself, and with practice you can alter your perceptions similar to the way one becomes lucid in a dream state.  It takes enough self awareness to realize you can control it, but I believe most people have this ability as long as they open themselves up to the possibility.  As far as the dream connection goes, I often have open eye hallucinations that I can sometimes control just before falling asleep and I can usually become lucid very easily while dreaming.  I'm interested to hear if this is a common theme.  Just last night I was able to teach myself to fly (well, more like glide really) just by sticking my arms out and believing that I could.  We limit ourselves more than we realize just by having a closed-minded approach to the world, which is why I believe that in a infinite universe all things are possible.  I didn't honestly believe in the possibility of god or have any understanding of what it meant to be spiritual until after I got clean and started having these experiences, that may sound cliche but it's true.  Coincidence?  Who the hell knows, but I do know that in that brief moment of bliss, everything makes perfect sense and I am able to see the follies of the world, and separate the things that really matter, and yes sometimes it brings a beautiful tear to my eye because even the negative things suddenly make sense in their own stupid way, and that gives me hope for the future (By the way, I am a die hard optimist).  I have had no negative effects so far, and I am getting quite good at it considering I only realized I could do this a couple of years ago.  I am about to turn 29 if that gives you any frame of reference.

I'm fairly certain that this is NOT an adrenal dump, because I have no noticeable increased heart rate or perspiration, and as a die hard adrenaline junkie I know what that feels like.  Some people may be different, but for me these are two completely separate, distinct feelings.  When I get an adrenaline rush from being angry, almost dying, etc it is never accompanied by goosebumps, cold chills, or anything like it.  Adrenaline is designed to numb you physically and emotionally, and with this ability I am actually able to amplify my emotional state, expand my consciousness, as well as have increased physical sensations which makes me think that it may actually be serotonin or possibly even dmt/melatonin.  If anything it actually seems to relax the muscles in my neck and put me at ease.  I can't tell you how excited and eager I am to learn more about other people's experiences.

-allen
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Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
« Reply #233 on: 08/11/2012 16:07:06 »
Hello, just remembered some more details that I forgot to mention in my last post.  I know this is supposed to be a scientific forum, so I will try not to make too many assumptions here and just stick to what I know and can observe. 

Probably about 10 years ago when I was just starting to experiment with drugs, I found this nifty little program called the I-doser, which I used to play binaural beats through a set of studio-quality headphones that I just happened to have.  If you have never heard of binaural beats before I encourage you to look into it more.  The program I had promised to release various neurotransmitters, and I settled on the pineal gland because it has always fascinated me.  Now, whether binaural beats are in fact real or just a placebo may never be proven, but the placebo effect IS a well known, proven scientific phenomena, just not a well understood one.  However, placebo or not, by the end of the session (about 20 mins or so) my eyes were vibrating back and forth very quickly which was a bit unnerving at first because I couldn't stop it but it dissipated after a moment or so.  Now... whenever I get a particularly good chill, if I close my eyes I can focus on it better by tuning out distractions, but in doing so I also notice that my eyes begin to dart back and forth slightly.  I can actually feel them moving from side to side against the back of my eyelids.  This immediately reminded me of the REM stage of sleep (which I wish I knew more about).  Since your pineal gland is also active during deep sleep, it seems like there must be a connection there.  Now I'm no doctor of course, but if someone really wanted to do a study on pineal gland self-activation, it seems like a FMRI machine would be useful.  I believe that anyone who says this cannot be studied doesn't really want to try IMHO, because where there is a will there is a way.  Also, I'm putting myself up for adoption as a ginny pig!!!

-allen

Also, don't forget that imagination is more important than knowledge.  Open your heart, open your mind...

One last edit for anyone interested in learning more, and seems to confirm the pineal gland connection based on what others here have said... newbielink:http://www.everythingunderthemoon.net/the_third_eye.htm [nonactive]
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chills/shivers down spine
« Reply #234 on: 09/11/2012 10:24:28 »
Its nice to know that i am not the only one who can control these chills/shivers down the spine and get goosebumps.

I first discovered this "ability" when i was 16. i started to get this odd shiver all the way down my spine every time someone would come near me. it starts at the back of my skull and runs all the way down to my feet. after a year of trying to suppress these chills they finally stopped for about a week but then came back even worse. I realized something different this time. whenever someone would walk passed my i would get a major shiver down my spine and i would start to feel and know how that person is feeling and see what they are thinking! at first i thought i was going crazy because i could sense everybody's feeling around me and i started to go insane. then my mother comes to me one day and says, "son do you ever walk past someone and immediately feel how they feel and pick up on their thought?" and i told her i was. she started to tell me i was born with some kind of extra sense ability or something and these "chills" control them. she told me one day i would be ale to do much more than just feel peoples feelings.

now three years later after experimenting with these chills/shivers i could finally control them. now whenever i touch a persons hand and summon these chills/shivers and i can see their memories and what they have done in there life!! honestly it scares me half to death every time it happens and i don't know how exactly i do it.

I don't know if someone can tell me what is happening to me or if anyone else has experienced the same thing but its starting to scare me and if anyone has an answer to this or how to make it stop than please tell me.
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Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
« Reply #235 on: 09/11/2012 20:50:35 »
Quote from: adigold on 09/11/2012 10:24:28
... whenever i touch a persons hand and summon these chills/shivers and i can see their memories and what they have done in there life!!

Get a "reputable academic" to confirm this and claim your million dollar prize from Mr Randi ...

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Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
« Reply #236 on: 28/11/2012 19:53:15 »
as you mentioned i can also control my goosebumps, without having to think of anything i can make my goosebumps rise for a good period of time concentrating on it. I havent met anyone that can also do it until now, im glad to know that there is people who can also do it, although youre one of the few... i whish i can find more info on this topic and i do i will be back here to share it.... good luck and if you get any other info please share.
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Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
« Reply #237 on: 08/12/2012 07:20:27 »
Smoke weed and trigger it...trust me lol
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Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
« Reply #238 on: 17/12/2012 01:23:01 »
actually now that you mention it I've noticed that pot does seem to enhance this somewhat, but then again it enhances everything so no real surprise there.  However, for me I definitely don't need to be stoned to be able to do it, but it still helps.  Cannabis has been used as a meditation aid for thousands of years partly because it enhances insight, and I'm starting to suspect that these goosebumps and the elevated level of consciousness that seems to accompany it is actually simply the ability to slip into a trance-like state at will (at least for me, that is).  A few weeks ago I had some particularly good skunk and rolled a pinner for me and a friend, but turns out they couldn't smoke so I finished it all myself, and right afterwards while sitting in a very relaxed position I started to get the tingles.  I de-focused my eyes (staring into infinity like you would with one of those magic eye pictures) and almost immediately started getting some extremely psychedelic distortions, ripples seeming to spread outwards accompanied by color distortions, particularly a shade of blue tint that would coalesce and condense into the focal point of my vision, increasing in intensity as it collected itself into a ball of intense pure blue light, getting progressively brighter the smaller it got right up to the point that it disappeared into a single point, at which point the process would immediately repeat itself, successive balls of blue light condensing into intense points of light gaining in intensity each time so that each was brighter and denser than the last.  The whole time my goosebumps were slowly and gradually building in intensity, lifting me on a smooth rising wave that felt like it was lifting me out of my body, instead of the short bursts that I'm used to, and I was gradually tuning out the world and eventually only seeing these balls of blue light even though my eyes were still open.  I was able to sustain that feeling for longer than I ever have, probably a good 3 or 4 minutes or so and probably could have gone much longer but I got distracted and immediately snapped back to reality. Flashback?  Maybe.  I've had similar visual distortions before especially when staring into non-repetitive patterns like popcorn ceilings or a gravel driveway that will cause the surface to seem to melt and ripple like the waves on the surface of water, but this was a bit different and MUCH more intense and actually quite enjoyable. The whole time I got the distinct feeling that I was not a passive observer in this experience, but sometimes it's hard to separate cause and effect.  Anyways, in a way I almost don't want to know the exact scientific explanation because that would take away the mystery and enjoyment of it all (think "When I Heard the Learn'd Astronomer" by Walt Whitman), but whatever it is I'm enjoying the hell out of it.

I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
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Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
« Reply #239 on: 17/12/2012 06:15:37 »
I myself can control my heartbeat, give myself goosebumps, dilate my pupils, loosen my muscles, and cause myself to produce a lot more saliva and mucus. Is this normal? What does this mean about me?
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