[neilep]

George...Thanks ......Yes..Placebo effect....that's the one.....short lived as well I bet !..Good on ya George...you're not just a pretty face ! []




Bren.....Thank you for your perspective....What you believe is good for you...i would not try to take it away from you...or anyone else

Men are the same as women, just inside out !

[ROBERT]

quote:Originally posted by Titanscape

I once felt the tangible anointing of the Holy Spirit when a lady layed hands on me. A numbness. Other would feel heat and others cold. Some fall to the floor and shake, others laugh as did I also. One can feel a refreshing in the spirit too.

There are numerous such phenomena.

One young woman would speak in an unknown tongue, but was exceptional because she was treated for it by a Dr with heavy medication.

I have seen stage hypnotists make volunteers (a self selecting group), laugh/cry on command ,
 believe their seat was on fire, collapse to the floor, become completely rigid, speak in a foreign accent,
 i.e. all of the phenomena listed by Titanscape and more.
No supernatural phenomena were involved.

[another_someone]

quote:Originally posted by neilep
..Good on ya George...you're not just a pretty face ! []

I am not even a pretty face – well, no-one's perfect []

George

[Titanscape (OP)]

Dr Warnock writes on the suggestion made by other christians that the blessing is really mesmerisation.

I never allowed anyone to hypnotise me.

I also saw a crippled boy get up and begin to run in a Catholic Charismatic meeting. But he got embarrased and the healing was siad to take some more time to complete.

My late Ps Frank Houston boasted he prayed for someone who was brain dead to come alive again, and he did.

Titanscape

[moonfire]

Of course, with our true cynics...as with everything else, there are those who will do anything for attention with the end result of "making money" too.  I think that there are those who really get healed, but alot depends on their faith level...just like those who think more positive than others...there are benefits to them who do.  There are doctors who say that there is a difference in healing when they have patients who pray and those that don't...?   You are entitled to your own opinions.

"Lo" Loretta

[tony6789]

but thr "holy spirit" is it part of a physical body? cause there have been many God fearing people who don't belive in ghosts. yet the holy spirit is considered a "ghost"by the holy Bible

NEVER! underestimate youth

[Titanscape (OP)]

The Holy Ghost may have a body of matter somewhere, but this would have been created. Certainly He would have a body of light. There is a thick presence and a thin presence.

He is above time and space and sourced it. So His presence in it and Jesus body, is interesting.

Titanscape

[moonfire]

The 3-in-1 effect...Trinity.  Good explanation Bren!

"Lo" Loretta