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Hormone TestsThe doctor prefered thyriod test is a pituitary hormone called TSH, not Free T4 or Free T3. The doctor prefered testosterone test is not the pituitary hormone LH, its the free Testosterone.Why are different doctor ordered hormone tests inconsistant - some test the pituitary, others test the free blood levels?For my thyriod, the TSH was high but free T3 and T4 were normal. For my testosterone, the free testosterone was normal (I didn't test the pituitary hormone LH).
My previous testosterone tests, ordered by GP's and urologists showed "normal" levels. But my current endocrinologist-ordered tests show my testosterone levels as "low"!
Quote from: demografx on 16/03/2009 19:46:07My previous testosterone tests, ordered by GP's and urologists showed "normal" levels. But my current endocrinologist-ordered tests show my testosterone levels as "low"!Demo, which type of test(s) did your Urologists perform? Which type of tests did your endo perform?Any idea why there is a difference between the results?
Indeed, Whoa, I don't intend to treat myself with hormones. Im going to get tested by my doctor, and if Adrenal Insufficiency is the cause, and Testosterone and DHEA are low, i will follow his treatment as he sees fit.I'm glad that the natural remedies are working for you. May i ask your current method of treatment is?
Welcome back Whoa and congratulations for your success. Sources of mono-insatured fats I use are : avocados, olive oil and almonds. I don't know what is the most important source of fat to help steroid metabolism between satured fats, mono-insatured fats and poly-insatured.But my total cholesterol is under the limit and i can't increase it with all oils i tried :/What about your experiment with Levitra and combination with testosterone ?====
Martin, do you know why some MD's are skeptical of "adrenal fatigue"?
Phosphorus is a cofactor and enzyme for steroids.
LEVITRA SUBSTITUTE FOR NON-E.D. POIS?I've been thinking lately that, with the success of my treatment for POIS, it would be a shame if it only generalizes to a population that has ED (which Levitra targets).I'm leaving out the testosterone discussion for now. That is not as age-sensitive, I think, as Levitra.Let's think of what ingredients might be working in Levitra for a group of POIS sufferers, but stretching beyond the ED set. Nitric oxide? Then let's translate that into something that has a nitric oxide stimulant for people who don't need an ED treatment!Horny Goat Weed, the Chinese herb, has been brought up as an example. I know, they should change the name.I'm not suggesting that testosterone + Levitra is "the cure-all for POIS". But my guess is that it has universal application to a certain sub-set of POIS sufferers. A starting point I think would be the POIS sufferers who have some form of testosterone deficiency but don't need Levitra-for-ED.Or maybe, under doctor's careful supervision, a very low dose of Levitra could be tried for those with testosterone deficiency but no ED?Starting 7 years ago with testosterone injection only, and with more experiments over the last 2 years, one thing I have learned is that testosterone and Levitra won't make a 90%+ dent in my POIS independently; they work together for maximum effectiveness.As B_Jim, Counterpoints et al point out, eventually we will have a number of different treatments for different symptom-groups and perhaps by demographics.Any other thoughts on this, please? Thanks!
Welcome WellnessMartin => PMFinally : great job. Which enzymes do you take ? I use bromelain and papain.
Martin, thank you for that very good Mayo Clinic article.
Demografx and B_Jim thanx. I started to feel the onset of POIS when I was about 14 when I started to notice Heart Palpitations and elevated BP after orgasm. As the years went on the symptoms became worse...... depression..... lack of energy or drive.... PE..... and generally feeling like crap. For years I tried everything..... I would search the internet endlessly and take every herb and supplement I could get my hands on...... even resulting to anabolic supplements. Nothing worked..... and about 8 years ago I develeped a pressure that would build up in my sinuses after orgasm and doesnt go away for a week or two... sometimes weeks. I have had the pressure in my face for so long that I sometime dont notice it because it is usually allways there. It wasnt till I got out of the Navy and went to see a VA doctor that I found what I thought was Gold..... Paxil...... Paxil has diminishes my POIS symptoms by about 75% and shortens how long they last. I recently started taking Hawthorn Berry for my Heart Palpitations and they have almost disappeared and I also take Fenugreek to reduce the intensity of my orgasms which seems to help with the pressure in my head. So with all that said..... I am still not giving up and never will..... One of my life goals is to find out WTF is wrong with us all and let the medical community and the world know that this is a real problem and none of us are making this up in our heads.
I had allergies before the first ejaculation.I took Reglan ...
I'm going to try [deprenyl] after I finish my neurofeedback protocol, probably sometime toward the end of August.
HI DEMOGRAFX, COUNTERPOINTS,...Firstly, it is fantastic to hear from Demografx getting over P.O.I.S about 90%! Congratulations and respect!
Question: has anyone tried 5-htp for POIS?
QuoteI had allergies before the first ejaculation.I took Reglan ...Reglan for allergies ? It seems used for stomach , what is the link with allergies ?
I have been getting some positive feedback lately from my experiments with frozen cherries from Trader Joe's. They are great for snacks and desserts. Very tasty anti-inflammatories.
Yes, cherries have a strong inflammatory effect like most of berries (anthocyanin). A study show cherries are very effective to reduce myalgias after sport. I read cherry is 10 times better than aspirin to reduce inflammation. And cherries may be rich in melatonin (for a natural source). A great natural med.
Quote from: demografx on 22/03/2009 22:22:20Hi B_Jim,If I took an "adrenal fatigue" approach to my POIS, instead of testosterone deficiency, do you think my treatment might be very different?No your approach is good. I don't oppose the different hormones strategy we have suggested. All hormones are linked each other. Testosterone is probably safer and easy to use than DHEA and hydrocortisone/pregnenolone.As CP wrote, testosterone release by adrenals too and all is down-regulated.
Hi B_Jim,If I took an "adrenal fatigue" approach to my POIS, instead of testosterone deficiency, do you think my treatment might be very different?
Thanks so much for the info demografx. It is very surprising for me because I have never thought of the proposition that POIS has to do with hormone. I always thought it had to do with my spine (since I always have a sore lowerback on day 1) and/or inflammation (due to my sore eyes).
Has anyone here tried anti-inflammtory drugs and do they have any effect?
And can I also ask how one should approach the GP so that they could actually let him/her try medication that might help?
Welcome nTonic. I suggest to test C-reactive protein (CRP)in Pois. It seems to be very easy and reliable for inflammation (Il-6). Out-of Pois I had about 4mg/L. ( <5mg/L = no inflammation ).
I don't recall the number of sufferers who may have itching or skin irritation. This would be VERY interesting if some of you have this?
Just got out of bed. This is second night, but first full night's sleep. This is report on hours 20-29 post "O". Slept like a baby. This would usually be a bad night.Zero POIS symptoms!