[imre1]

Hi,

Post orgasmic illness syndrome seems to be the closest to what I have also experienced:

Is it anything like:

Severe pain after sex going on for two days.

Flew like symptoms:

* especially extreme warm feeling (like if you were outside at 0°C temperature you would not be able to be cold).

* the feeling like you are having a fever, including transpiration

* a headache that is very specific, not like anything else you might now

* the feeling like your body is alergic to the fluids it creates itself.

* exreme drop in IQ (I have lost jobs because of this).

* insomnia (like sleeping medication just plain simply does not work)

* I never heard the word myalgias before.(But wikipedia says it is related to repetitive stress injuries. I also have a problem with cubital tunnel syndrome that started exactly during one of my episodes. Maybe this is related?)

This is wat I have experienced for the last 5 years. It started when I was 24 and I now 30.

I thought at first that it might have been some very extreme case of benign coïtal headache, but that never fully described what I have.

[imre1]

And an other note on chastity.

IT DOES NOT WORK, at least for me.

After two, three weeks I always get a wet dream.

[imre1]

Joe,
There is another similar discussion here: http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=2734.0
You may find it interesting.

This is the textbook example of a benign coïtal headache.

[imre1]

except my BP was sky high

Exactly what I also have

[imre1]

Oh, for those who might wonder.

Wait 10 years and I will be the 40 year old virgin.

[imre1]

And I avoid all fat food. Because I know that this will cause me a wet dream and pain.

(sorry for overflooding this forum)

[imre1]

For example, if I masturbated on monday at 15 o'clock, I would feel sick during the rest of the day, go to sleep, feel bad the entire next day (tuesday), sleep at night, and wake up well on wednesday.

EXACTLY, two days.

Except if I am suffering from insomnia. Then it lasts until I sleep at least 16 hours.

[imre1]

The only thing I have achieved in this years is that by having a trio of pills (1 for anxiety, 1 for depression, 1 for schizophrenia) I can control wet dreams, which were very frequent before taking them, and were ruining my life.

Thanks for the tip, if this works for me I will for ever be indepted to you.

If you are still here, mind telling us wich pills exactly?

[demografx]

Hi imre,

Thank you very much for posting and welcome to the POIS Forum!

I'm really glad you posted about other possible correlates in our lives - as they MAY relate to POIS. Here are some of mine:

-high blood pressure (now under control with meds)

-disorientation following even short weekend travel trips, i.e., any change of scenery

-I wonder about this one: severe corporal punishment for 4 years in Catholic elementary school (including grave warnings about sex, i.e., how dirty and filthy it all is [])

-severe jet lag (to the point where not traveling hurt my career)

-depression and ADD, affecting both career and home life

-periodic excess (although now abstinent for years) with beer and marijuana.

Let's get working on a pitchfork to dump Mr. POIS!!!!!

[chrisb]

I just signed up and have read a whole bunch on this thread and I figured I would simply relate my own experience with POIS.

I first began to notice a tiredness after orgasm in my late teens. This was a few years after having been diagnosed with Crohn's disease (IBD), and at about the same time that I began taking 20mg Prozac daily for depression and an anxiety disorder.

As the years have passed (I'm now 30 years old) it has grown from a mild condition to and extremely sensitive one.

Typically, my POIS manifests itself thus:

After orgasm (either sex or masturbation) I feel lethargic, and suffer derealisation. Overall, I feel like my internal energy has disappeared. Hours later the IBD suddenly becomes worse. I cannpt properly digest the food I ingest, and food ingested before orgasm often slows down or stops its passage through the intestines. Upon waking the next day I feel shattered, bereft of any energy, and simply getting up is quite difficult. It will often take several days before I feel my energy return fully.

In severe cases, sometimes after several orgasms over a short period, or when low energy levels preceed one orgasm, digestion shuts down completely resulting in massive pain from bloating in the abdomen, fever, and sometimes the pain is so intense I become delerious.

TO summarise: The main effect of orgasm is to induce a state of low or very low body energy. The intestinal condition which I suffer is the main site where the effects of this lack of energy is felt most keenly.

Interestingly, my Crohn's disease has always been closely related to energy levels. I go through periods of very good cardiovascular fitness, and at these times, food intolerances drop in intensity and the robustness of my digestion / intestines increases. Also, when cardiovascularly fit and feeling 'great', I can have the occasional orgasm without inducing POIS.

Lifestyle: It's often only oral sex on the menu for my wife, whom I love dearly and am very attracted to, and it kills me that I can't have sex with her all the time! Often I have sex with her but avoid orgasm, which we both find frustrating. She understands the problem I have, but we are both at a loss of how to fix it. Like I say, the best I can do is try to remain as fit as possible, but that is not a cure, and it's still only has a mild positive effect.

Do most people who suffer POIS have other medical / psychological conditions? I'm off the Prozac but I've been on 40mg of Cipramil / Citalopram (a similar SSRI that is licensed for panic attacks and anxiety) for about 5 years now.

Thanks for listening!

Chris

[chrisb]

Get this: My brother is a world class athlete. He runs over 15 miles every other day. Sometimes twice on the weekend. He goes to the gym and so in additional to unbelievable cardio fitness he is pretty ripped. This is a man who can work all day, drink all night, have sex up to seven times (it is true - I heard them) in the early hours, get up wihtout having slept, go to work all day and feel 'just fine' (his own words).

Unbelievable isn't it?

[neilep]

Get this: My brother is a world class athlete. He runs over 15 miles every other day. Sometimes twice on the weekend. He goes to the gym and so in additional to unbelievable cardio fitness he is pretty ripped. This is a man who can work all day, drink all night, have sex up to seven times (it is true - I heard them) in the early hours, get up wihtout having slept, go to work all day and feel 'just fine' (his own words).

Unbelievable isn't it?

Hi Chris...I think (in the kindest possible way and to be taken in good spirits)..I hate your brother !! []

[chrisb]

Neil, I hate him too!!

He came home (he lives with me at the moment) a little drunk at 4am on Sunday morning, packed his bags, said ruefully, "damn, I shouldn't have had those two wanks earlier because I'm supposed to have some serious sex tonight." Then he caught a plane to the USA at 6am. I think he was annoyed not because it makes him tired (far from it) but simply because he wanted to produce a prodigious amount of you know what. All about first impressions I think!

Ba@%$#d!!! [!]

Perhaps I should make it my mission to become super fit and then report back to the group?

[neilep]

Hi Chris,

LOL...well...if your bro is an incentive to get fit then it has to be a good thing !! []







I am just reposting this (below) as I accidentally deleted it

welcome to the site Imre1 ( and now also to Chrisb).....good to see you...and good to see you again demografx.

demografx mentioned to me that if you search POIS on the net that TNS is the only place on the PLANET for sufferers to talk about it!! and that  Thus far, the world's chief investigator (and originator of the term POIS), Dr Marcel Waldinger, is now only #2 .....Perhaps on the strength of that...we can get Marcel Waldinger to post here too ??

[demografx]

CHRIS, GREAT to hear from you!! I take Cymbalta for depression and Adderall for ADD.

I have gotten some POIS relief with Levitra, but I stopped my experiments lately because of...well, too much experimenting! []

Let's all work together to fight this horrible, nauseating syndrome!!!!!!!!

Best wishes to everyone,
demografx,
25++ years suffering from POIS but now hopeful thanks to Waldinger's work, but especially this POIS Forum at The Naked Scientists (TNS) !

[neilep]

I'm emailing Dr Marcel Waldinger.

You never know....he's probably far too busy to come here but I have extended him an invitation to read the thread !!....

[demografx]

SIBLING RIVALRY

Sigh....CHRIS, I suffer from the same "Brotherly Love" syndrome...my counterattack is to simply be the best sloth I can be  [:0] [] [:0] []

[demografx]

I'm emailing Dr Marcel Waldinger.

You never know....he's probably far too busy to come here but I have extended him an invitation to read the thread !!....

JUST WONDERFUL, NEIL!!! WAY TO GO!!!!!

[neilep]

I'm emailing Dr Marcel Waldinger.

You never know....he's probably far too busy to come here but I have extended him an invitation to read the thread !!....

JUST WONDERFUL, NEIL!!! WAY TO GO!!!!!

I probably shouldn;t have mentioned it....I'm by nature a cynical pessimist and I suspect my email may be just dealt with as SPAM...but...hey !!...if you don't try you don't know eh ?

[jplewin]

Hi everyone
Glad to hear from you again... thought this forum was dead. Welcome the new guys. I got in touch with Imre about the pills.

Mmmmm well, for me nothing has changed since the last post. Now I'm searching for something with a neurologyst. Maybe something comes arround.

See ya

JP