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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #240 on: 16/01/2008 15:39:47 »
DENIAL

Bizzy and John21, thank you very much for sharing your experiences with denial. It is amazing to read everyone's posts about POIS; it's like reading your own thoughts, feelings and actions!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #241 on: 19/01/2008 07:47:26 »
Quote from: interested on 13/01/2008 12:07:45
thanks for getting back so quickly!

no he is on no meds, never has been. he has a major aversion to all things prescribed by doctors or even bought over the counter.

really down as in, the world is a big black hole, he cannot concentrate, cannot work properly, cannot communicate properly, his speech is even slurred now that i come to think of it. certainly cognitively impaired... one time he even forgot his own name! he goes about his daily activities as if in a dream... brain fog i suppose. he really hates himself during this period, I guess. and is paranoid, thinking the world is out to get him, trusting no-one. he is woken at night by these thoughts.

never put it in these terms before, so concisely... seems to make for some kind of mental illness. he is otherwise an intelligent, creative person, although he is immensely insecure, especially during these "pois" episodes if that is what they are.

he has never seen a doctor about it. 

even just writing all this down helps!

Classifies as POIS for me.

For externally noticing things wrong. Does he drop things like glasses? Does he fall down the stairs? Does he bump or cut himself more easily?
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #242 on: 19/01/2008 17:15:17 »
Classifies as POIS for me.

For externally noticing things wrong. Does he drop things like glasses? Does he fall down the stairs? Does he bump or cut himself more easily?

hi imre1

good questions! shall have to observe that... not sure off the top of my head...
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #243 on: 21/01/2008 17:04:56 »
Thank god.  I can't believe I found this thread.  For the last few years I've had the EXACT same symptoms described here. 

After orgasm;
fatigue especially in legs, flushing, depression, fuzzy thinking, tired to point of feeling fluish, insomnia, sore throat, emotionally sensitive... that improves after a day or two.  Protein bars seem to help but it may just be the sugar content?   I also drink lots of organic milk and I thought I read in a post that someone improved after cutting out milk. 

I few years ago I took amino acids for thyroid support, way too much, and that is when my POIS started.  I probably burned out my thyroid by accident.  I also masturbated lots when younger.  Hmmm.  My symptoms are much worse when I masturbate as opposed to wet dreams...could be emotional response then to being alone??

10mgs Paxil nightly to help sleep.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #244 on: 21/01/2008 21:10:08 »
HELLO EVERYBODY! I'M 22 AND I HAVE SIMILAR CONDITION LIKE YOU GUYS, I DISCOVERED IT LAST SPRING BUT NOW I KNOW HOW TO MANAGE IT. WE "FORGET" TO BREATHE PEOPLE. WE NEED TO BREATHE PROPERLY TO CREATE ENERGY FOR LIFE. AFTER YOU HAVE AN ORGASM, TRY TO MAINTAIN YOUR BRATHING RYTHM, BREATHE WITH YOUR STOMACH, AND MAKE IT A HABBIT TO BREATHE ALL THE TIME PROPERLY, NOT WITH SHORT BRATHS, AND YOU'LL SEE HOW MUCH MORE ALIVE YOU'LL FEEL. GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #245 on: 21/01/2008 21:24:59 »
El Stonio,

Did you get my reply to your PM? I hit "Send message" and nothing seemed to happen, so I tried it again and got the same result. You had asked me if DHEA still helps - yes, it does.  It's funny that I got your message today because just this morning I was reading articles on the 'net about studies showing that people are being treated for depression with 30mg-90mg daily doses of DHEA (an endocrinologist I consulted said I could safely take 25mg-50mg daily).
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #246 on: 21/01/2008 22:09:58 »
111/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Am31DyM_OlhLgQFwvOZXlOQjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=1006053019202

Does masturbation make the body weak?
My 17 year old friend told me that before he would masturbate up to 4 times a day. He would do it when he felt the need to do it. After masturbating, his body would feel with weak. When he would go out to do a workout (he's in track) his body would feel tired even before the real workout started . At school he would be very sleepy since according to him he masturbated in the morning. Now he stopped and his body never feels weak anymore and he feels with more enery and feels great on those workouts for track. He also doesn't get sleepy during school. I kinda agree with him because i feel the same way as well but I don't know.I feel better when I don't masturbate my body is just more energized for some reason. Any comments or ideas on if this could be true.

112/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AjK58MBKtxY1hEIkuEC.g7UjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20080520173114AAFmrkS

Masturbation vs dark circles?
is there a relation between masturbation and forming dark circles? i am 29, male and i am not married. i am masturbating nowadays so frequently. i have been observing that if i masturbate once in a day and 3 days continously, i am seeing that my eyes going inside and looking awful and feel tired. is there anything suggested to do after masturbation so that it doesnt give bad effects like said above. just for the confirmation if i stop masturbating for 10 days, my eyes tend to look normal and energetic. any advice?

113/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AkX7qPmE1ciu1pMKmKSGcTcjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20060622121310AA4DQoq

Im 21, im masturbating frm 18 at 5days/week, is there any sexual disorder in doing so, often i feel tired.....
im male, often i feel tired after doing masturbation....
because of this im not able to concentrate my studies....
whenever i switch on my computer or tv my mind intend to watch on some porn movies.... and finally i masturbate and sleep...

Pls help me how to get rid of this problem....

114/ http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic20055.html

Can a Person Be Allergic to Orgams? I Know, Sounds Wierd..

Just wondering if i'm alone in this experience. I feel like a freak.
None of my girlfriends have this problem.
Do any of you get red sore eyes and blue black circles under your eyes after an orgasm?
I always do and it can last the entire day. Its just like an allergy!
This has happened with past lovers, and my hubby.
My eyes are in good health otherwise, I just had them checked, I don't need glasses, i've lived in both dry and humid climates.
It doesn't matter what kind of orgasm I have either, you know, hard, easy, multiple, light, mind-blowing, ho- hum, etc.
Also does anyone have any remedies to this problem?
I literally have to wear 2 different types of eye concealers to hide, what looks like a black eye, (people have actually asked me who decked me can you believe it!) and after an orgasm I have to wear sunglasses due to the soreness.
Please, if you know anything or if you have this too, please let me know.

115/ http://en.allexperts.com/q/Male-Masturbation-3326/2008/2/Masturbation-10.htm

I've been masturbating since I was 13 and now nearly 20. I now masturbate more than usual. I think the max I've pulled off this year is 7-8 orgasms in a day. I masturbate around 4 times a day otherwise. I've been having a problem where I get very tired after masturbating. Get big circles under my eyes straight away after the high and everyone says I look tired all the time. I feel tired also. I get headaches all the time and feel lower back pain. I am very short something I've found with people who overmasturbate. Is there any way to reverse the effects of overmasturbation? I know it definitely has done damage to my body. Is there anything that can relieve my body of overmasturbation? Vitamin pills....etc?? I see that masturbation changes your body chemical/hormonal balance completely and depletes your testosterone levels so when you try build muscle  you can't. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Back pain, tired and the black circles... :) Signs of adrenal weakness ?

116/ http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/690376

not feel good after masturbation
I am 29 years old male and our culture is not to have a girl friend before marriage. But i enjoyed through masturbation but i feel pain in my body specially in my knee and very tired. What should I do to be healthy, active and get rid of pain in my body after masturbation. Some special diet or some medicine.
I shall be very thankful to you for your kind reply.????

117/ http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/1070456

What r the reasons of feeling fatigue,chill,fever,leg pain after sex and during sex i feel pain also why?Do i have germs or bacteria?Headache and leg pain is very common.Next day or after some days of sex i feel very heavy fever and pain.

118/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070721002307AA7toXq

What is the relation between sex orgasm & the knee/leg pain after sex?
* I feel pain in my knees & thighs (like I waked for 10 miles) after having sex.
** I think the amount of pain is proportional to the amount or degree of orgasm gained!

119/ http://www.steadyhealth.com/pain_in_knees_and_legs_during_after_masturbating_t75976.html

pain in knees and legs during/after masturbating
My legs start paining after 15-20 mins of being erect while stroking lightly. After ejaculating my legs keep paining and I feel week all night and a day. I tend to masturbate ~5 nights/week. Could this be due to a little to much masturbation or should I see a doc for some tests?

120/ http://www.steadyhealth.com/pain_in_legs_after_sex_t102906.html

Hi, i'm married man and 37 years old. now if i have sex with my partner after 1 week only 1 time then i feel ok but if i have sex next day then i feel stress and pain in my both legs. it's like i have some kind of weakness in my legs. this pain goes after some hours. Don't know , what treatment i need? please help me for any kind of medication. Also i can perform sex more then 1 time in one section.
Kind Regards

121/ http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/608428

Knee and lower leg pain after Sex
I am 34 years old man for the last one year i was feeling pain and dryness on my lower knee and legs ,when ever i have sex  and even normal ejaculation I  experienced  rashes on my lower under knee , i have not STD history and my entire health is ok ,but i have sever allargic to some medcines and feel when it is cold  itches on  some parts of my body specially on the abdomen.
what i am wodering is what is this pain and dryness after sex and ejaculation and alos lack of sleep may happpen some nights and headaches

122/ http://en.allexperts.com/q/Urology-Male-issues-989/post-ejaculatory-symptoms.htm

post ejaculatory symptoms
I am a 52 yr old male. At age 32, I had left epididymitis, which resulted in atrophy of the L testicle. The testicle does not seem to have changed recently.I have been treated for prostatis periodically since that episode.

My current issue involves post- ejaculatory pain & other symptoms. For the past 8 months, I have experienced the following Sx for 5-7 days after ejaculation:
- frequency, dysuria, hesitancy, nocturia
- low grade pain in pelvic area & left testicle.(3-5 on
 a scale of 10)
- low grade nausea
- night sweats, low grade fever
- malaise
- urethral and bladder tenderness to palpation
- at times, the whole pelvis area feels "on fire"

The symptoms seem to resolve after 7-10 days.
I have been through a 30 day course of Levaquin, as well as Flomax. The symptoms resolved by 80% while on the antibiotic, but have since returned. I remain on the Flomax.

This may not be related, but (through a process of elimination) I have found that the symptoms are exacerbated by NSAIDS and aspirin. I have L3-S2 epidural injections for lower back pain q 4-6 months.

CBC is normal, TSH is normal, PSA is low, UA shows a few WBCs, significant RBCs, and epithelial cells. I have been monogamous for 35 years, and RPR/VDRL are neg.

123/  http://ehealthforum.com/health/uneasy-after-masturbating-t170796.html

hi doctor
every night i will do masturbating /shagging/self-satisfaction.

next day when i wake up, for entire day, i feel uneasy, laziness and some kind unhealthy condition, i do not feel to work because of this...what is the reason for this?

124/ http://boards.webmd.com/webx?THD@@.89751933!thdchild=.89751933

Lower back pain after ejaculation
Hello. I am a 25 year old male. My girlfriend left me a few months ago , so I have been masturbating a lot recently. Anyways, I have been ejaculating 2-3 times a week. And my lower back tends to ache afterwards. Anyone know why this is? Am I not getting enough exercise? This has never happened before. My penis gets sore after ejaculating a lot, but never my back. Thanks for your help.

125/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081209220515AARNK1M

Does Ejaculation Reduce The Immune System?
I notice that everytime I ejaculate more than twice a day I tend to get flu in the next morning. So is there any medical explanation for this? I mean you know the sperm contains substances such as protein so if we throw them away a lot then maybe ... you get my point.
Additional Details
Im not saying it slowly kills you. All Im saying is that if we ejaculate too often without some time to replenish it then it will have some effect on our immune system.

126/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080523201037AAEEGLp

My knees and feet go cold after ejaculation?
i always feel something(maybe its cartillege)is coming up from my knees and at the point of ejaculation......i also have a problem of series of cracking sounds from my knees when they r bent..and sometimes when i was about to ejaculate my knees and feet go cold after the release and relaxation.what does that mean...?

127/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AqNNW0.TsPAlCxTeD_XqZTYjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20080913105952AAUObey

 Hi, why do i always feel so cold and weak after ejaculation and so often end up catching a cold ?? ?
tks for replies, i only feel cold and even sometimes close to shivering after i ejaculate, i have went without ejaculating for a period of time and during this i never got a cold so allergies is not the problem, any help much appreciated tks

128/ http://www.consultation.ayurvediccure.com/what-are-the-natural-treatments-for-the-weakness-after-masturbation-or-sex/comment-page-1/

What are the natural treatments for the weakness after masturbation or sex?
Sir, I am 21 and I wanted to know that whenever I feel sex  , I take out sperm from my penis or I masturbate. After some time of this, I feel very weak and my head and eye began to pain.Sometimes I suffer from cold. So please help me!

129/ http://ehealthforum.com/health/pain-in-knee-after-ejaculation-t175020.html
(knee pain only)

Pain in knee after ejaculation
every time after ejaculation by the other day I begin feelin a horrible pain in my lwft knee. by the way I masterbate aproximetly every 3 days or more

I need consultation.

130/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090201211153AAjUMe0

I ejaculate alot/too much..... knee pain bladder pain stomach pain?
hello im 19 years old and i have been ejaculating ever since i was 15. and from 15 up until 18 i ejaculated mostly everyday or atleast every other day... now its 3 times a week... and now i have aot of pains like bladder pain stomach pain and ive gotten so skinny... and also i get sick after ejculating now.... so my question is- is all this happening bcause of ejacultating? and will i not be abe to father children later on in life? and will i not erect anymore?

131/ http://ehealthforum.com/health/masturbation-side-effects-t173398.html

I think i also feel weak after the wet dream or masturbation. I also feel mental weakness, concentration weakness, lack of confidence, lack of energy.
Please tell me how to stop wet dreams without masturbating. I don't want wet dreams as these affect my work and want to get rid of them.
Please help.
Any suggestion would be helpful.
Thanks.

132/ same page

Masturbation side effects ?
asked by: DoctorQuestion on March 8th, 2009
Due to too much Masterbation, I feeling memory weakness,Concentration weakness,depression,low energy level and lack of confidance.
plz tell me the solution.

133/  http://ehealthforum.com/health/damage-of-masterbation-t175159.html

I have been masterbating regularly since the age of 12. The frequency at which I was masterbating on some days was 4 - 5 times. As I reached the age of 18 this slowed down but I was still masterbating every few days.
I am now 26 and for the last few years I have noticed physical weakness in my legs. At times I feel weakness when I clench my fists. There is also rapid muscle movement in my thigh, fingers, big toes etc - not all the time, every so often. My semen has lightened so much and I have noticed that my Penis whilst resting is becoming more and more floppy. I can still get a full erection but I end up ejaculating within a minute or so. I cannot seem to last a long time. After masterbation I get a burning sensation which lasts a long time on either side of my abdomen and this is becoming the norm. I am trying really hard to stop to the point where I go on for a couple of weeks and then give in to masterbation again.
I've had a general checkup with my GP and all seems fine. I've told GP of the symptoms (but did not mention the masterbation) and after thoroughly checking me out as well as referring me to a neurologist - they could not find anything wrong with me. This then leads me to think it has to be the masterbation. I just don't know what to make of this anymore!

134/  http://boards.webmd.com/webx?THDX@@.89b8d214!thdchild=.89b8d214
 Foggy Headed after ejaculation
After I ejaculate I feel foggy headed and a loss of energy for about day. I feel normal again after a good night sleep. I have had this condition for many years. I am now 45. Right after I ejaculate I feel as if a chemical being released in my body that travels and pools in my brain, thus causing my foggy head. I feel tired, irritable, and a lack of desire to do anything for that day. Any idea as to my condition and cure?

135/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090225090149AASvHmT
Why do orgasms make me sneeze?
Lately, every time I ejaculate, I get stuffy headed and start sneezing. My nose gets stopped up, and I have all the symptoms of allergy or hay fever. This lasts maybe 30 min. to an hour, basically a/b the same amount of time it otherwise takes me to get sexually stimulated again, after an orgasm. I've heard that male ejaculation promotes histamine release, but have never seen any evidence that it was sufficient to cause this. Ideas?

136/ http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Undiagnosed-Symptoms/Contiunes-Fever-acne-headache-and-fatigue-after-sexual-activity/show/770679

Contiunes Fever,acne,headache and fatigue after sexual activity

Sir,i am experiencing heavy fever, fatigue,pain,acne on face problem from many months atleast from 6 to 20 months.
I think that i may have std or sti What do u think that i may have std's or not?This
fever nd fatigue remains constant 24 hours a day and it's very difficult to work and learn.Acne which returns within some days if i do not eat tablets.Actually,i had gay boy friend and we had sex alot.i have ****** him alot and i'm telling u all this so that it will be easily to know that what is my problem?whenever i ****** him my problem increases but he's alright.He has no problem and i have many problems.Do u think that i should not do more sex as my condition is bad?My eyesight has also become more weak then previous times.How can i get rid from this fever and fatigue?is this general disease or std's?What's this?

137/ http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/1096067

Is heavy fever,chill,pain normal after sex?I'm feeling daily fever,chill,pain after cuddling  him.When i had fucked him 4 times i was all right but now i have fucked him 7 to 13 times and i have fever or chill or pain problem.He is all right but i'm not why


138/ http://boards.webmd.com/webx?THDX@@.89b8d214!thdchild=.89b8d214

Foggy Headed after ejaculation
After I ejaculate I feel foggy headed and a loss of energy for about day. I feel normal again after a good night sleep. I have had this condition for many years. I am now 45. Right after I ejaculate I feel as if a chemical being released in my body that travels and pools in my brain, thus causing my foggy head. I feel tired, irritable, and a lack of desire to do anything for that day. Any idea as to my condition and cure?

139/ http://ehealthforum.com/health/back-pain-after-intercourse-t185725.html

Hi I am a married 52m, I get a back pain after a couple of hours after intercourse, which does not affect my appetitute at time, but when I do to sleep I get teeth clenching with no noise and I wake up with my chins hurting me. I also wake up with bad appetite and i rather not eat, if i did eat something i will nearly throw up,I feel tired and internal muscles contracted.The situation continues througout the day and I hardly eat, the next day i am normal again.Pls explain what is going on and advise.
Many thanks in advance.

140/  http://boards.webmd.com/webx?THDX@@.89dc7ab9!thdchild=.89dc7ab9

I have a rare problem after ejaculation. For several days after I have a sort of allergy attack to my own body chemistry. Ejaculation is fine with the normal stress relief and pleasure for about an hour. Then I begin to have muscle tightness throughout my entire body, especially my neck. I do not sleep well for several days, have night seats and am very irritable during the days. I do have fibromyalgia and this makes the symptoms 5 times worse. My ex wife had severe PMS and I've got to say my mood swings are similar. This problem is getting worse with time to the point where I am abstaining from giving myself pleasure of ejaculation because I feel awful for as long as 8 days. I have been to several specialists but with no answer. My hormone level is normal. I treat these side effects with nitrazapam but that just allows me to function. This problem also gives me high anxiety and confusion. Does anyone else have a similar problem and does anyone have suggestions.

141/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080605153144AAsPPeM

Fever after Sex?
After having sex with my girlfriend she always get a fever after 2 days
I did all STD tests And Nothing came up
She did too Any ideas??
 
142/ http://answers.eyje.com/infectious-diseases-open-question-constant-low-grade-fever-after-sex/

Constant low grade fever after sex?

Hi I am 24 year male. I am facing very serious problem. I had a constant low grade fever after sex and also having right side testicle pain. I did sex with a girl before 6 months ago and i had a low grade fever from last 6 months. Any body can tell me plz what infection I have?? Doctors not able to help me..
and i am also having sole burning problem.

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #247 on: 21/01/2008 22:23:24 »
agjchs, I am curious to know how old you are. I have read that you shouldn't take DHEA under a certain age.

nickthegr8, I have heard that breating properly can assist greatly with anxiety problems, as some people get so anxious they lock up and unknowingly stop breathing easy. I can't see any connection to POIS though. Are you saying that your POIS symptoms went away after learning how to maintain your breathing?
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #248 on: 22/01/2008 21:54:38 »
Quote from: El Stonio on 21/01/2008 17:04:56
Thank god.  I can't believe I found this thread.  For the last few years I've had the EXACT same symptoms described here. 

El Stonio, welcome and thank you for sharing your experience. I agree, THIS PLACE IS A MIRACLE!!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #249 on: 22/01/2008 22:04:45 »
TESTOSTERONE SUBSTITUTE?

I recently stopped testosterone injections, 1) it didn't help POIS and 2) it's a pain in the neck running to nurses every 2 weeks and 3) it's controversial - some say it's dangerous, can lead to prostate cancer, so constant monitoring is not fun.

Does anyone have any suggestions about helping a flagging libido without testosterone? Thanks!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #250 on: 23/01/2008 21:25:06 »
Found this thread when I was trying to search for more info on the matter. Still at a loss though to figure out what it is exactly that I'm losing after orgasm and what I can do to regain it, or, at the very least, to minimize some of the side-effects.

For a few days after orgasm, I usually find myself mentally fogged up and rather unmotivated. And worse, as a result I usually find myself extra introverted since I have an impossible time trying to talk to people due to these effects. I end up not really having much to say and sometimes having difficulty following what the other person is saying. At its worst it gets to depression and just feeling grim/gloomy.

However, when some of the effects begin to wear off I usually feel extra confident, motivated, energetic, and... a fair bit horny as well. Which usually leads to a restart of the cycle.

Caffeine sometimes helps with this, as does some food (some makes it worse). Usually it gets at its worst later in the evening. I've been thinking that it's likely dopamine related for a while now, but unfortunately... I'm still completely clueless on neurochemistry

Oh, and also. I regularly take two fish oil, one in the morning and one at night, and I take a small dose of an SSRI at night.

Anyone have some ideas or suggestions?
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #251 on: 24/01/2008 00:40:38 »
Welcome Ender,
We're all searching... read through the posts and you'll get a few ideas, but it is currently a mysterious condition. What foods makes your problem worse for you? Do you think that the worsening in the evenings could be due to fighting with it all day, exhausting you?
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« Reply #252 on: 24/01/2008 07:09:15 »
I think that it's usually worse at night simply because... I'm naturally more tired at night.

As for food, I've found that foods heavier in raw fat will usually make matters worse, yet at the same time, small bits of meat or nuts sometimes make things feel a bit better for a while. Same with spaghetti tonight. Nutrigrain bars usually help for a short bit as well. Popcorn, potato chips, and anything with a lot of salt often-times make things worse though.

Probably has to do with nutritional value and such in that. However, what I find strange is that drinking lots of water makes it a lot worse. Especially at night. Coca Cola on the other hand sometimes works really well, but other times puts me to sleep.

The biggest thing I've found that helps however is just getting out and forcing myself to talk to people I'm comfortable with. Moving around a bit and motivating myself inspite of the pain and discomfort does tons more than anything else.

Oh, and trying not to concentrate too hard on things helps as well. Both mentally and physically.
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« Reply #253 on: 24/01/2008 21:29:58 »
Hi everybody. Thank you so much for this topic, it's such a relief to discover I'm not the only one with this strange disease.

Let me describe my symptoms; as you will see they are not strictly identical to those posted here before. However, they are so strongly correlated to orgasm that for me POIS is the best explanation for my disorder.

First some personal details : male, age 49, computer scientist, living in France. I'm suffering from this condition for probably at least three years, and probably much more. It has worsened recently - at first it occurred occasionally, but not systematically as is the case now. To be precise, I'm now in the situation that having an orgasm during intercourse (not masturbation) leaves me sick the following days, in a systematic way. Actually my latest observations lead me to think that intensity of my symptoms are proportional to the actual length and intensity of the orgasm.

I understand those who speak of denial. I still have difficulty coming to terms with the facts. Speaking to others helps a lot - in my case I spoke to it with my wife first, and now this forum. The best explanation for this denial is that until recently I suffered from sleep apnea. Since I had mandibulary surgery this summer the apnea disappeared completely, but not the symptoms that I had attributed to it.

Here are my latest observations, starting last Sunday at about 9 PM, just after sex (I wrote everything like in a diary actually).

H =0
Everything normal.

H+1 to H+1:30
Feeling of anxiety.
I feel a strange burning/oppressed feeling when breathing, like I've just been bathing in cold seawater (I must say it's very hard to describe).
My temperature rises to about 37.5°C. I feel great warmth over all my body.
My breathing gets heavier.

H+3
I awake with the same symptoms as above, only worse. Anxiety is close to panic. I realize that this episode is probably the most severe I've ever had - probably because the orgasm I experienced was sensibly longer and more intense than usual.
My temperature has dropped to 37.5°C.
Nausea.

D+1 (morning)
I have a hard time getting up - I wake up and fall back to sleep repeatedly.
The oppressed feeling during breathing is still there. I feel like a weight on my chest.
My face in general and mouth in particular feel very tense, almost making it difficult to talk.
I feel terribly tired during breakfast, exhausted actually.

D+1 (rest of the day)
Physical activity seems to be highly demanding. I avoid the staircases, even walking is difficult.
I can do my work, but it's a very, very, uncomfortable day. I lose my concentration now and then.
Back home in the evening, my temperature is back to normal (slightly below 37°)

D+2
Like D+1, it's hard to get out of bed, and even harder to get wide awake.
I feel terribly tired, exhausted, making me irritable, hardly sociable.
However, I don't feel even half as bad as on D+1, although breathing still feels difficult.

D+3
Same as D+2, just slightly better

D+4 (today)
Things are almost back to normal, except that I'm really, really tired.

Well that's it... Just before I finish this long post (I hope you don't mind), I'd like to ask just one question: in your opinion, which field of medicine is most concerned by this syndrome: neurology, sexology, endocrinology, urology,..., psychiatry (just joking...) ? My problem is I just don't know which doctor I should consult...

Thank you in advance for your reactions, and sorry again for being so long.

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #254 on: 25/01/2008 01:02:48 »
Hi everyone... posting again.
I have not followed the thread for a while, but I see a lot of guys joining in...
My condition has not improved... nothing really has changed.
But I'm here if I can help someone sharing my experience...
For the new guys, if you are interested... read my previous posts.

I'll try to catch the thread again...

Greetings.
JP
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« Reply #255 on: 25/01/2008 07:37:37 »
143/  http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=31468&pid=336198&st=0&#entry336198

I've noticed this for years. Shortly after ejaculating, my immune system becomes depressed and I start to catch a sore throat. Sometimes it sticks, sometimes not. Since getting a chipped molar, the effect is even more noticeable. I'm more prone to infection in that tooth and can literally feel the left tonsil starting to swell after ejaculating. It's only ever a problem after ejaculation

Another thing is that for a few days afterwards, I'm less intelligent, less coordinated, have a slower reaction time and feel tired in general. I understand this can be attributed to abnormally high levels of prolactin, but is there another piece of story missing? Could it have something to do with dopamine too?

Does anyone here understand what's going on? Can anyone relate? Any solutions?

144/  http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic95403.html

that was my question... i kinda feel that masterbation is a drug to me... i have to do it to feel free and relaxed. it surely tires me out and since i'm a teen i do this after school.. i find that i can't concentrate after maturbating and i can't focus at all. pls help...


145/ http://www.consultation.ayurvediccure.com/why-do-i-get-fever-after-i-masturbate/#comments

Why do I get fever after I masturbate?
I am a 19 y/old male from the Philippines. I never had this problem before but it seems like its always happening now. What could be the indications of this? What should I do? should I stop masturbating? I hope you could take time to answer my question.. Thank you…

[Answer :  Long term over masturbation not only decreases the immunity of urogenital system but it causes weakness and loss of immunity in whole body ....
So we recommend you to use Shilajit /i]... ]

Shilajit informations :
http://www.wordpress.rudramani.com/2009/01/04/shilajit/

146/  http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ab-menopause&tid=1448

Hi, I am 30 years old.  liked to ask, after having sex, I always got a fever, seems like I'm not feeling well. My boyfriend likes to having sex more than an hour, he is quiet hard to get orgasm. What's wrong with my body? Is it normal to having sex as long as we had? ( I was too tired after that:( ). Somebody help me please???


147/ http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic76466.html

Nausea After Orgasm
It used to happen only once in awhile, but it seems recently that everytime I achieve orgasm I feel nauseated. It doesn't matter if I orgasm because of sex or masturbation--still the same result. Also a new recent thing is after orgasming I instantly become really depressed and feel like i'm going to cry. Has anyone come across this problem or knows what it is?

148/ same link


I've had the same thing for 3 years, ever since I had surgery for an ovarian cyst. I've been to so many doctors about this and no one will help. I feel very depressed. But here's what I found out works for me.

I take an advil[ an hour before sexual activity /color], then, right after having an orgasm, I take an antacid.

This leaves me with absolutely no pain or nausea. Unfortunately, if I forget, or take the pain reliever too soon before sex, or too early, I feel sick for the next few days.

Does anybody know what kind of a doctor could treat this? I'd rather not take painkillers for the rest of my life.

ADVIL = ANTI-INLAMMATORY ,


149/ same link


the same....
i have the same problem! well i am only 17. but every time that i hit orgasm, i feel sick to my stomach, i get lightheaded (and a couple times i have actually passed out), i get weak, i sometimes get depressed, but heres the really strange thing.... it takes almost 4 days for me to feel a little better! i dont know what the heck this is! i want to find out....

some people have told me that it could be my blood pressure, some told me that it is my adrenaline still racing.... i dont know! i just want to find an answer so my boyfriend and i can have some sence of relief if it isnt something that i was born with, etc..

150/ http://www.steadyhealth.com/feeling_sick_after_masterbating_t129093.html

feeling sick after masterbating
few weeks ago i masterbated and felt sick afterwards , like dizzy weak,lightheaded ,heart was beating very fast,fekt very hot inside, what do you think it was, i do get panic attacks sometimes, could i have had that ,what was it


151/ http://www.steadyhealth.com/viewtopic.php?p=735482#735482

Exact same problem, and I have suggestions and leads.

I am now 47, condition started after abstaining from sex for 3 years at age of 34. I read a complete article about 5-6 hormones that are released during orgasm, one of which induces fatigue ... but, mine lasts for 3-4 days!! To me, more satisfying experiences create LESS fatigue. I am also a pre-mature ejaculator, so it is not the physical effort. The frequency of ejaculation does not matter, I often sleep 12 hours after ejaculation. I also discovered that ginger reduces the effect. Also SSRI depression drugs minimize the effect. I have also noticed that encounters which do not result in ejaculation do not cause this fatigue ... at all!!! so I am sure it is due to the hormons released during ejaculation.

GINGER

152/ http://www.justanswer.com/questions/2jdb3-ejaculate-during-sex-feverish?r=billbob393

Question
after I ejaculate during sex I have feverish symptom, prolong tiredness and weekness to the point that If ihave sex and ejaculate within the next 24 hrs the feelings worsen and I begin to experience some runny nose. A year ago my urine test revealed light trace of blood but a subsequent prostate exam was negative. I also have also been having some recurring low back pain on the left side ( moves from the bottom of the lung area to my hip bones) although xray , an endoscopy and a colonoscopy) have not found anything. I believe that all the symptoms are related.Please help.

153/ http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-health-forum/cortisol-4x-saliva-testosterone-134262256.html

The strange thing about my adrenal fatigue symptoms is that it only happens 1-2 days after an orgasm.

The 3-7 days after orgasm I feel good(No chronic fatigue) and can train intensely in hard combat sport in boxing and can manage 2 hours np and socialise but the 1-2 days after orgasm I experience :

Muscle & joint pain
Overall body inflammation
Digestive problems
overall exhaustion
migraines
hot & cold symptoms
depression
Feel like sleeping all day dispite having 9-10 hour sleep

Its impossible for me to do the boxing training the 1-2 days after orgasm but walking is ok.

At one point I was sleeping in for 12-14 hours the night after orgasm. This was when POIS was at its worst and the symptoms would last 5-7 days.

154/ http://forums.wrongdiagnosis.com/showthread.php?p=192944

I am experiencing the same problem. To get to the point, these are some symptoms that I have had for more than 1 year:

1. I had a fever about 2 days after sex
2. On my third time having sex with the same woman, I could immediatley feel burning/tingling sensation in my thighs, even when I am not sitting down.
3. For first several days, it felt like something was swimming inside my body from my waist to my mid body, my neck, and my head. I also had tingling sensation in my throat.
4. I took antibiotics several times, but it only reduced the fever.
5. I continued to have burning/tingling sensation in my thighs and buttocks, but only when I am sitting down.
6. I tried jock itch spray but it only reduced the symptoms for several days, then the symptoms came back full force.
7. I tried taking salt bath but it only offered brief relief.
8. My infectious disease doctor prescribed me Flagyl, but it only reduced the symptoms for 2-3 days, then the symptoms came back full force.
9. During this time, it felt like some feather duster organism was swimming inside my body. I continued to have burning/tingling sensation in my thighs and buttock.
10. My doctor then prescribed my Acyclovir. I think this was after testing positive for Type I herpes. I tried it for a week then I started having tingling sensation in my upper lip, then a blister came out. Several days later, I started having throbbing nerve pain in my heart, left eye, top of my brain. Eventually, the nerve pain progressed to other parts of body, such as leg, hand, etc.
11. I endured much pain before calling my health insurance directly to have a spinal tap done. I had a very comprehensive blood test and spinal test. I even paid for my own semen test and stool test. Out of all the tests done, ONLY the blood test showed up as being positive for Type 1 Herpes. Spinal tap, stool test, semen test all showed up as negative.
12. My neurologist gave me Indomethacin but it almost killed me so quit taking it after 2 days.
13. I went to a herbal specialist and he prescribed me Ling Zhi. Three days later, all the nerver pains and swimming sensation in my upper body disappeared, even the severe headache.
14. The symptoms came back after a month on Ling Zhi. The headache reduced about 90%.
15. My doctor then prescribed me Nystatin. After two weeks on Nystatin, all prickly nerve pain in my upper body disappeared. My doctor finally concluded that I did not have Herpes because there was no physcial signs of it. I went to many doctors! He also explained that Herpes does not have signs of persistent tingling/burning mucles/nerve pain in the groin, thigh and buttock. Furthermore, if I had herpes in my central nervous system, I would be dead.

16. ***Here are some tests that I have done***
a. eat candy or food with high sugar or cafine
b. eat fruits with high sugar
c. self masturbate
(What do you get when you try the above tests?)

17. Now, all the doctors have sent me home saying that I have NOTHING. On one beautiful day, I made a self discovery which has lead me closer to a cure. The intense and persistent buring/tingling sensation in my thighs and buttock are 85% gone. It has now been 1 1/2 years.

Do you want to know the answer?

155/ (woman) http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090709175518AArlS9a

After you have sex, are you supposed to feel sick?
I'm a female and me and me bf didnt use proctection but we didnt insert his you know wat into my you know wat. Like one minute after i felt immediatly sick and the days after im still feeling very tired, dizzy, not able too eat, backache, ect. Does this mean i'm pregnant? And could have the pre-ejaculation made its way up there? I'm very worried and were not emotionally ready for a child.

1min => step 1
several days => step 2

156/ http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showtopic=12093

On the other hand, for 3-5 days after ejaculating, i would feel so weak, so vulnerable around other people, and get into these funks where, i felt i had no purpose in life, just utter lack of motivation. So, after some searching around i found this site, and the concept of retention.


157/ http://kinseyconfidential.org/fatigue-day-after-sex/

What Might Cause Fatigue The Day After Sex?
QUESTION: My wife and I have sex once or twice a week. For the past few years, we’ve both been getting extremely tired after sex. It makes us feel as though we’re unable to carry out our daily work efficiently the next day. What can we do to overcome this?

158/ http://forums.obgyn.net/womens-health/WHF.9904/0311.html

pain the day after orgasm
I am asking this question on behalf of my daughter. She is 33, and has had 2 children. A year ago she had a laparoscopic examination for abdominal pain and an adhesion was cut which solved the problem. For the last 6 months she has had pain in her legs and abdominal area the day after experiencing orgasm. This happens whether or not there is intercourse. There is no pain at the time. 3 Ibuprofen can alleviate the pain, but she is concerned at this level of medication. Her gynecologist has recommended a hysterectomy as the only cure as he believes the problem is in stretched ligaments. We hope that someone may have an alternative suggestion.

159/ http://www.psychforums.com/sexuality/topic26287.html

Hi, I'm 26 years old and believe I have a major problem when it comes to masterbating and sex which I hope someone here can help me with.

As long as I can remember back right after masterbation I've become overly tired, grumpy, emotional, even depressed to the point where I cannot function properly and I become a different person. I've found it to take generally 3 to 4 days before I can get my physical energy level back to normal. This also happens when I have sex. Normally, it happens 20 minutes after I ejaculate. I fall into this routine over and over again. Ejaculation equals over all bodily weakness for me for a few days.
It affects my body and screws up my emotions for a few days... My energy, how I'm able to focus and I also become slower and much weaker PHYSICALLY.

Now, I love sex as much as the next fella, but sometimes I've had to put it off knowing I need to focus the next day and be on top of my game, so I better not have sex or masterbate Because I know that I will have to pay the price if I do.

160/ Same topic

Hi i experience exactly the same thing as what you described. have you found any solutions??

161/ Same topic

I'm so glad I found this topic. Finally, someone who can relate to my own problem instead of convincing me that I'm just having trouble to accept my sexuality! This information is really helpful to me.

162/ http://www.justanswer.com/questions/2u79r-i-am-67-years-of-age-and-female-i-have-a-history-of-diabetes

I am 67 years of age and female. I have a history of diabete. and high blood pressure. When I have sex with my husband, I have this burning pain in my feet. It is unbearable and sometime I have to stop the action. It does not hurt in the vagina, but the motion causes that reaction in my feet. Afterwards the sensation has been in feet for several days. Is it that something is wrong with my vagina or is a nervous condition? Please help me I don't know how much longer I can take this. Thank you. Dorothy

163/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091224182816AADvpID

Tired after ejaculation and the day after?
I am 15year old boy. I started masturbating 6months ago.I feel very tired after masturbating.I really want to know if it is normal to feel tired and sleepy the DAY AFTER!!! masturbating.See this is my big problem because i masturbate everyday Only once before going to bed and i feel extremley tired and weak at school and i would want to go to sleep. Could you guys tell me if i need medical treatment or is there something wrong with me???? This is very important to me because my friends keep telling me that i look really tired.

164/ http://veryrarestuff.com/tag/exhausted

I just discovered that I have very rare syndrom (some call it Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome). After I ejaculate I have brain fog, I feel mentally and physically exhausted for a week or longer and if i don’t prevent myself from masturbating I will constantly have brain fogness, low energy, tongue tied… How did I discover this? Ever since I started masturbating (5th grade) I’ve been living a life in confusion. Now I’m 22 and last spring I started experimenting – trying not to masturbate for as longer as possible. After 2 weeks without it, I felt that energy was built up and I had incredible drive to do things, think clearly, talk to ppl easily. I simply felt normal. And I can destroy that collected energy with 1or 2 masturbations. Later I heard that Eastern Philosophies talk about connection between energy and masturbation. The worst thing is that I’m an artist and I can’t do good artwork after I masturbate. I think that my condition ruined my life and I’ve never had a girlfriend.

165/ http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts13714168.aspx

About two hours after I have an orgasm, I get a stuffy nose and a headache. I then feel like I'm living in a haze for the next week or so. I have problems concentrating and remembering things, and I get real irritable, until in about two weeks I'm back to normal again. The doctor says I have "Post-Orgasmic Illness Syndrome". Her solution to my problem is for me to abstain from sex.
She says that I shouldn't engage in any form of sexual activity to avoid any form of arousal unless I just want to deal with the "hangover" afterwards. This hangover can be quite debilitating, especially if I need my brain to be halfway reliable.
Anyone else heard of this and know of anything I can do to curtail these symptoms and have a normal sex-life?

166/ http://www.empowher.com/community/ask/pain-back-legs-knees-after-sex?page=2

I have severe pain running down the backs of both legs (from my sitting bones down hamstrings) & knees after having sex. When I sit, it's dull & not as bad, but when I'm up it is awful! It starts within minutes of finishing sex and lasts at least half a day. Have never had this problem before. I am pregnant if that makes any difference, but haven't had this issue with past pregnancies. It's taking the fun out of having sex with my husband. Is there anything I can do to avoid or at least ease the pain?

167/ http://www.steadyhealth.com/Tired_after_ejaculation_t106407_st20.html

I am 22 and I also have this problem where I feel tired/weak/lazy/down/upset/sad for about 1 week after sex and this definately affects my workout routines, the way I talk to people, the way I dress, and the way I act around people. It's horrible especially when your gf wants sex all the time. It also sucks b/c as you people said, it feels like you're missing out on life. Like I want to sleep around with other girls too you know.
I have not found out what works. The only thing I found out is abstaining from both masterbation and sex, that's all. That's the only thing which makes me happy, feel strong, active, smart, dress well, look good, etc.

168/ http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100402131524AAcSyP0

Weakness after masturbation?
i am 18, i feel week after masturbation and feel tired and feverish for 2 days after that i find it difficult 2 concentrate and have a boggeled mind
how 2 recover ? is it normal?

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« Reply #256 on: 25/01/2008 22:16:00 »
Hi Jim. I haven't tested any meds yet, I would like to get medical advice first (I have an appointment in a few days). Same answer for bloodtests.

You don't mention beta blockers, although they are quoted in page one of this thread. Has anybody tested these?
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #257 on: 26/01/2008 08:39:52 »
Quote from: jo58 on 24/01/2008 21:29:58
My problem is I just don't know which doctor I should consult...

I guess that is the real problem after all. I think there are no doctors that specialise in our deficiency.
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« Reply #258 on: 26/01/2008 08:43:11 »
Quote from: jo58 on 25/01/2008 22:16:00
You don't mention beta blockers, although they are quoted in page one of this thread. Has anybody tested these?

Very dangerous. They make you physicaly dependent on drugs that may actually kill you. My doctor (neurologist) did not want to give them to me.

Without clear indication that it would work I would stay away from these as fas as I can.
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« Reply #259 on: 26/01/2008 08:44:51 »
Quote from: jo58 on 24/01/2008 21:29:58
H =0
Everything normal.

H+1 to H+1:30
Feeling of anxiety.
I feel a strange burning/oppressed feeling when breathing, like I've just been bathing in cold seawater (I must say it's very hard to describe).
My temperature rises to about 37.5°C. I feel great warmth over all my body.
My breathing gets heavier.

H+3
I awake with the same symptoms as above, only worse. Anxiety is close to panic. I realize that this episode is probably the most severe I've ever had - probably because the orgasm I experienced was sensibly longer and more intense than usual.
My temperature has dropped to 37.5°C.
Nausea.

D+1 (morning)
I have a hard time getting up - I wake up and fall back to sleep repeatedly.
The oppressed feeling during breathing is still there. I feel like a weight on my chest.
My face in general and mouth in particular feel very tense, almost making it difficult to talk.
I feel terribly tired during breakfast, exhausted actually.

D+1 (rest of the day)
Physical activity seems to be highly demanding. I avoid the staircases, even walking is difficult.
I can do my work, but it's a very, very, uncomfortable day. I lose my concentration now and then.
Back home in the evening, my temperature is back to normal (slightly below 37°)

D+2
Like D+1, it's hard to get out of bed, and even harder to get wide awake.
I feel terribly tired, exhausted, making me irritable, hardly sociable.
However, I don't feel even half as bad as on D+1, although breathing still feels difficult.

D+3
Same as D+2, just slightly better

D+4 (today)
Things are almost back to normal, except that I'm really, really tired.


By the way seems like a good description of POIS. Especially the fact that the second day is the hardest is very indicative.
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