[John21 (OP)]

CP,
Sorry, I was wrong, the "near beer" is actually 0.5%. My reaction to it is not POIS-like. When I drink a normal beer and have a night's sleep I always wake feeling unrested, and it has a certain kind of "feel". When I drink the near beer or take the a sip of wine I get the same effect to a lesser extent. I am confident that I am just very sensitive to alcohol. I have previously searched the web for what that says about my system, but I haven't found that it indicates anything. At one time I considered the Candida theory, but it does sound doubtful to me as well now.

Demo,
Speaking of Quackwatch, here is another ducky remedy: http://www.devicewatch.org/reports/aquadetox.shtml

I mention this because I heard a lady who called into a talk-radio call in show swearing that all her medical probems were cured by cleansing the toxins out of her body through her feet! Sounds like faith healing to me.  []

[martin88]

I don't drink alcohol, but if I have a "near beer" with 0.5% alcohol I can feel it.

Me too. I feel the usual effect of alcohol.

Also a 0.5 beer helps me with premature ejaculation and has a slight stimulating and relaxing effect at the same time. Which is caused by hops I think.

Martin, I agree! Also, my extreme jet lag seems related to POIS as well.

Perhaps a problem with an other endocrine gland (pineal). I don't know if it's controlled by the pituitary.

About the hyper reaction to gym:
I know someone who is diabetic and who MUST do exercise to lower his sugar. Eventually you'll have to find a solution for this. Maybe it's a nutritional deficiency aggravated by exercise (ex: cramps) or an effect of other medication I don't know... Maybe testosterone can control this effect now!

[Pronobis]

Finally,

My doctor believed in me. He was a little surprised and had a doubts when I showed to him Waldinger's report, but finally guided me to an endocrinologist.  [] []

[martin88]

Finally,

My doctor believed in me. He was a little surprised and had a doubts when I showed to him Waldinger's report, but finally guided me to an endocrinologist.  [] []

Good news Pronobis! (Or he didn't believe and sent you there to reassure you. I already saw this before in my case)

[POIS-SUFFERER]

I was reading last night and came upon the Candida possible connection....

I read some symptoms of Candida and man 75% of them were me!

So I looked around for more Candida info and came upon http://www.candida-albicans-cure.com/candida-test.html and also found this same simple test mentioned many times all over the net, and no one saying it was bogus....

This morning I tested, as it says to do this in the morning..... and voila.... very positive results.... the image they show on the webpage... is axactly what I saw this morning....

Now I am not saying YET that its related to POIS.... but I need to start trying to treat it.....

So here we go.....

Why doesn't everyone else try this test at home and report.... it would be another piece in the puzzle and it ridiculously simple to do!

PS.

[GoingCrazy]

I was reading last night and came upon the Candida possible connection....

I read some symptoms of Candida and man 75% of them were me!

So I looked around for more Candida info and came upon http://www.candida-albicans-cure.com/candida-test.html and also found this same simple test mentioned many times all over the net, and no one saying it was bogus....

This morning I tested, as it says to do this in the morning..... and voila.... very positive results.... the image they show on the webpage... is axactly what I saw this morning....

Now I am not saying YET that its related to POIS.... but I need to start trying to treat it.....

So here we go.....

Why doesn't everyone else try this test at home and report.... it would be another piece in the puzzle and it ridiculously simple to do!

PS.

Yes, I tried the same test to with positive results.  Sadly there are no listed symptoms of candida related to "post orgasmic depression".  But hey you never know. 

Candida is normally present in the digestive tract of the body, but once it is uncontrolled and breaks out into the bloodstream, it causes numerous problems.  I'm not saying that candida is %100 the cause, but it could explain the reason "I" feel terrible after eating sugars, and the reason for pois.

But i still can't believe that if anyone has had candida bad in the past that they wouldn't list post orgasmic illness as one of the main symptoms. 

Maybe they just didn't want to believe it or really didn't know. That would make sense because even I didn't know this illness was related to sex until possibly as much as a year into it.

[GoingCrazy]

Hey everyone,
It has been awhile since I last posted. I have been following the forum. I am glad to read that Relora is helping some people.  Just wanted to let everyone know that I have now been taking Relora three times a day since last October. The results have been life changing. I have not had any of the symptoms of POIS since October. I have orgasms everyday and most of the time more than once per day. Everything still seems great.

Thanks!!

This is my opinion, but I think relora is more like treating the symptoms, rather than treating the illness.

[POIS-SUFFERER]

This is my opinion, but I think relora is more like treating the symptoms, rather than treating the illness.

Yes mine too, I use ATIVAN and it make me 100% but it only a coverup... its not fixing anything!

PS

[POIS-SUFFERER]

The candida spit test is not serious. Candidosis should be considered only if there are clear signs (white tongue, throat...).

Well if you look at the list of Candida symptoms, I am almost 100% on all of them..... so for me this is the angle I will take for the next while and see.... however I have no clear outward signs, but I have all the internal ones.....

PS

[demografx]

This is my opinion, but I think relora is more like treating the symptoms, rather than treating the illness.

So what? POIS sufferers till now have NEVER had ANY form of relief! Perhaps my testosterone treatment is superficial, too, but it has changed my life!

[GoingCrazy]

I'm not saying that those are bad, I was on relora for about a month.  After quitting relora my symptoms returned.  Take them if you want, but they will not cure anything.

[demografx]

Well if you look at the list of Candida symptoms...

I don't think I've met anyone in my LIFE who DOESN'T have a "Candida symptom" []

[demografx]

I'm not saying that those are bad, I was on relora for about a month.  After quitting relora my symptoms returned.  Take them if you want, but they will not cure anything.

Again, I think we should be very grateful that we have ANY POIS relief at all! When this forum started, we had absolutely nothing.

[demografx]

I don't drink alcohol, but if I have a "near beer" with 0.5% alcohol I can feel it.

Me too. I feel the usual effect of alcohol.

Also a 0.5 beer helps me with premature ejaculation and has a slight stimulating and relaxing effect at the same time. Which is caused by hops I think.

Martin, I agree! Also, my extreme jet lag seems related to POIS as well.

Perhaps a problem with an other endocrine gland (pineal). I don't know if it's controlled by the pituitary.

About the hyper reaction to gym:
I know someone who is diabetic and who MUST do exercise to lower his sugar. Eventually you'll have to find a solution for this. Maybe it's a nutritional deficiency aggravated by exercise (ex: cramps) or an effect of other medication I don't know... Maybe testosterone can control this effect now!

Martin, I'm still hoping that major sloth will cure me []

[POIS-SUFFERER]

I don't think I've met anyone in my LIFE who DOESN'T have a "Candida symptom" []

Yes one symptom, but when you almost got the list! thats another thing.... there are all sorts of disconnected symptoms that seem connected to Candida, I have always had achy joints.... this alone everyone gets, mine started at 30. But now through in always slightly dizzy, off balance, mental fog, hard to find words, small persistant headaches, itchy anus, anxiety, a heavy use of antibiotics in my earlier life, different bowel issues, GERD, bad heart burn, itchy skin, allergies to smells like perfume.... its all painting a picture....

Now I do not say, YET, that it is Candida, I will see DR, see what he says..... get tests if any and go from there....

PS.

[Pantaloon]

Hi All

There seems to be quite a lot of good news on Relora recently, which is great - it's heartening to hear these reports. However, I thought I'd mention a possible down side which I've experienced.

Before I do though, I should just say that I'd still recommend anybody try Relora for POIS, or even generalised anxiety. As, aside from the side effect I had, it initially definitely helped my POIS and gave me a feeling of energised tranquillity which I really appreciated.


I took Relora consistently (3 per day) for about 4  months or so. I then began to notice itching on my torso mainly in the evenings and in the morning. I experimented a bit and discovered it was caused by the Relora. This kind of makes sense as Relora lowers cortisol and cortisol provides "anti-inflammatory effects by reducing histamine secretion and stabilizing lysosomal membranes" (Wikipedia).

I had thought that my POIS may have been caused by raised cortisol levels, but I now think that perhaps the benefit I got from Relora was due to lowering my normal or possibly low cortisol levels, allowing my adrenals to produce something else that was beneficial.

Any thoughts?

All the Best

Pantaloon

[demografx]

Now I do not say, YET, that it is Candida, I will see DR, see what he says..... get tests if any and go from there....

Sounds very reasonable! I'm just concerned with premature conclusions some people and questionable practitioners arrive at...best wishes! Please let us know your progress!

[demografx]

Pantaloon, thanks for that great post!

We're learning a lot about POIS, I think, from all these relora experiences.

[demografx]

Finally,

My doctor believed in me. He was a little surprised and had a doubts when I showed to him Waldinger's report, but finally guided me to an endocrinologist.  [] []

Pronobis, wonderful to hear! Congratulations!

I think we are learning very valuable lessons at this forum: not only about how to deal with POIS, but also how to deal with the medical community. Not easy!!

[demografx]

I  didn't know this illness was related to sex until possibly as much as a year into it.

You did better than me, it took me a few years. Very common that it takes time to "discover" the link between POIS and sex, especially for those sufferers with delayed reactions.