[GoingCrazy]

My passport expired and I forgot the CW Oath Of Allegiance.

Well as usual, our oath of allegiance can be found here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnsdPBR_otA   , but for the passport issue.. I really can't help you their.  Maybe if you have some candida/candidian within your blood, they may let you in for free.    []

[RhythmSpring]

Hey all! I popped in several months ago and then disappeared, and I'm back.

I'm 20 and I'm a POIS-sufferer, so it's hard for me to find the time to deal with it directly; a) people my age need to have fun. b) I'm already dealing with another serious illness (rheumatoid arthritis).

But, I'll have you know that this is the first day 1 for me in nearly 4 months. Over that time I have become very much alive. It was a glorious (though sexually deficient) break from POIS symptoms, and it allowed me to firmly establish some positive character traits of mine, as POIS symptoms for me are almost all mental and emotional, not really physical.

I still feel the effects (mental fog, low emotional energy), but it's not as unbearable as it used to be.

Now, what to do... A relationship is forming fast... Uh oh... Anybody got a quick fix? 5-HTP perhaps?

[EDS]

POIS RESEARCH STUDY

I'd like a show of hands, please. Would you kindly just post here:

"in study"

if you are willing to participate in a study of POIS by outside researchers who can help us.

As I speak to outside researchers, I'd like to give them an idea how many of us are available for this type of medical research.

A research study wouldn't necessarily involve your physical presence. At this time I'd like to just know how many are in our total pool of possibly available participants.

Thanks much, everyone!

Hello everyone! Definitely count me in on the study! I was willing to travel to Dr. Walldinger's location to shoot a documentary on this illness from hell - which, of course, fell through - so I will help any way I can.

Thanks for all of the discussion and ideas that everyone contributes.

[GoingCrazy]

So far for me, I'm on day 19 of my year of celibacy.  For me "anxiety" seems to be the first symptom that goes away within about 2 days.  Brain fog lasts a long time.  I still have it now.  But the thing is I can feel it slowly lifting and lifting every day into the morning.  I would get severe brain fog in the mornings and now every morning is better than the last one.  I'm waiting for the day I wake up completely alert, healthy, and with no brain fog.  If this year of celibacy/diet change doesn't work...yeah...that would not be good.  []

[GoingCrazy]

And I am willing to participate in the study also... but I don't want to orgasm within this year.

[CertainlyPOIS]

I am typing a nursing paper for my dad and in there it talks about symptoms to look for if you have problem with endocrine function.
things:
pain in foot and hand,body part twitching,low energy,bad mood
and memory
the part that really got me is the twitching, because i have noticed a couple to times after intense orgasm my right eye lid twitch uncontrollably not like super fast but enough for me to notice, for about a day.
Has anyone notice pain in feet, hands or any twitiching.

[CertainlyPOIS]

Rhythm springs the quick fix i know use multi vitamins, lots of vitamin c
omega three pills, stimulant and lots of chicken because of tyrosine(it only works for couple of hours).
It helped me one but stoped working, may be it might help for the day. 
I feel you though Am a twenty year old too.

[CertainlyPOIS]

rythm springs dont forget to a good exercise, that helps too.

[Counterpoints]

Hey all! I popped in several months ago and then disappeared, and I'm back.

I'm 20 and I'm a POIS-sufferer, so it's hard for me to find the time to deal with it directly; a) people my age need to have fun. b) I'm already dealing with another serious illness (rheumatoid arthritis).

But, I'll have you know that this is the first day 1 for me in nearly 4 months. Over that time I have become very much alive. It was a glorious (though sexually deficient) break from POIS symptoms, and it allowed me to firmly establish some positive character traits of mine, as POIS symptoms for me are almost all mental and emotional, not really physical.

I still feel the effects (mental fog, low emotional energy), but it's not as unbearable as it used to be.

Now, what to do... A relationship is forming fast... Uh oh... Anybody got a quick fix? 5-HTP perhaps?

Can you tell us what may have contributed to your decrease in POIS symptoms?

I'm not sure about a "quick fix" that will work in general.  I think most of the results we've seen required some dedication.

Glad to hear you've been doing better.

[Counterpoints]

I didn't want to report on this until later, but some things I've read made me think it was important to share this information now. 

For the last 2 weeks, I have been 70% cured of POIS. This is really a breakthrough for me.  I read other stories here, thinking "this will never be me".  It seemed I had a really tough case.  I tried Relora, Fenugreek, antidepressants, ritalin, ativan, beta blockers, and all made very little difference.  There never seemed to be an "easy fix" for me, and the recovery I'm feeling is the result of a lot of dedication.

First, I essentially cut all refined sugars from diet.  I'd say I eat 10% of the refined sugar I did 2 months ago.  If I crave sugar, I'll have some oranges (not orange juice, actual oranges).  This means I do not eat chocolate, candies, cookies, ice cream, etc.  I also reduced my intake of fat and grease, to about 30% of what it was.  And I generally avoid processed foods, now.  I've been eating a lot of sushi.  And I went from eating a couple big meals a day, to decreasing the amount I ate at each meal, and increasing the number of meals (to 3-4/day).

I also eliminated pornography.  My POIS has a component that feels somewhat like a bad addiction.

I also eliminated alcohol.  I have never been a heavy drinker (max. 5-6 beers/week), but I have found alcohol to have at least indirectly aggravated my POIS.

I also started intense exercise for 40 minutes a day, every day (using a rowing machine).  Sometimes it was very difficult, especially in POIS, and for the first week, I did about 15 minutes of exercise.  Every week or so I would take a day off, and just go for a walk, instead of doing this exercise.

After 1-2 months of doing this, I was at least 70% cured from POIS.  It took about a month to notice any difference, and then recovery was gradual from that point.  Keep in mind, I have this "subsequent orgasm" feature, where if I am in POIS, sometimes a subsequent orgasm will alleviate my symptoms.  With this new routine, generally every 3 days, it will take 2 "releases", within a couple hours of one another.

This was not easy.  It took dedication.  But the results are way more than worth it.  If getting in good shape and not eating junk food, means (almost) no POIS, how could I reasonably do otherwise?

I will report on this again in about a month.

[demografx]

Hey all! I popped in several months ago and then disappeared, and I'm back.

I'm 20 and I'm a POIS-sufferer, so it's hard for me to find the time to deal with it directly; a) people my age need to have fun. b) I'm already dealing with another serious illness (rheumatoid arthritis).

But, I'll have you know that this is the first day 1 for me in nearly 4 months. Over that time I have become very much alive. It was a glorious (though sexually deficient) break from POIS symptoms, and it allowed me to firmly establish some positive character traits of mine, as POIS symptoms for me are almost all mental and emotional, not really physical.

I still feel the effects (mental fog, low emotional energy), but it's not as unbearable as it used to be.

Now, what to do... A relationship is forming fast... Uh oh... Anybody got a quick fix? 5-HTP perhaps?

No quick fix. You'll do better adjusting to that reality, painful as it may seem.

Congrats on "finding yourself" these last months!

Welcome back.

[demografx]

Congratulations, Counterpoints, on the breakthrough!

[demografx]

Hello everyone! Definitely count me in on the study! I was willing to travel to Dr. Waldinger's location to shoot a documentary on this illness from hell - which, of course, fell through - so I will help any way I can.

Thanks for all of the discussion and ideas that everyone contributes.

EDS, thanks for the willingness and compliments to the forum. Welcome back!

[demografx]

I'm on day 19 of my year of celibacy.

GC, can I just make a suggestion? I have set goals like longterm celibacy, and then found crushing disappointment when I couldn't reach those goals. Which "wipes out" the real accomplishments made in that time, in my case 3 months. The "failure" prevents me from taking the next step, it just seems too paralyzing.

I've heard about this disappointment and its effects frequently from others. Which is why slogans like "one day at a time" exist.

Maybe a more modest goal, followed by another might be less devastating and less pressure to be "Superman"?, e.g., 3 months, then another 3 months, then another 3 months. Your body is used to a completely different rhythm, and the sex drive is mighty powerful!

But in any case, congratulations and maybe I'm wrong, maybe you can handle it just the way you're doing it!

[demografx]

I am typing a nursing paper for my dad and in there it talks about symptoms to look for if you have problem with endocrine function.
things:
pain in foot and hand,body part twitching,low energy,bad mood
and memory
the part that really got me is the twitching, because i have noticed a couple to times after intense orgasm my right eye lid twitch uncontrollably not like super fast but enough for me to notice, for about a day.
Has anyone notice pain in feet, hands or any twitiching.

CC, no pain but very intense burning, numbness in my fingertips.

[demografx]

Thanx Demo, I will meet my endocrinologist a little later. So I wanted to know if you had same results.
What about your progress?

Please tell us how the endo visit went.

My testosterone treatment works very well, but I want more. On "Day Zero" I would like to feel less symptoms. And on the following day(s), I would like to feel more mentally and emotionally alert. I've only become aware of this recently. Before that, I was on a "pink cloud" of not feeling terrible, so I didn't pay as much attention to the cognitive aspect.

For example, a few days after POIS I notice my creativity sharpens, one thought leads to the next, and I become someone with an "associative mind", which I enjoy. Playing piano becomes more rewarding. But only after a few days. I would like to see this happen much sooner.

The best way I can describe this is that "the pain of POIS" disappears now much more rapidly, but the joie de vivre doesn't return as rapidly.

Thanks for asking.

But I shouldn't complain. I have escaped a lifetime of totally abject misery!

[EDS]

Thanks Demo!

I have not gone anywhere... I have now read all posts on this forum. I check in every couple of days to read the latest because everyone of you are contributing greatly. I am currently in the process of getting test run by ZRT Labs thanks to information from this thread. I am hoping there is something out of whack that can be addressed by an Endo. Unfortunately, I don't have much to add at this time but I will post my results from ZRT when they are available.

The only thing I have found that seems to help me just a little (I know it is only masking the symptoms) is plain old aspirin. I take 3 immediately after "O" and 2 every 8 hours for the next 3 days when symptoms start letting up. I did try Relora and was unable to take it.... it made me feel like I was in POIS - mentally. I have also tried Fenugreek and can't determine if it helping much or not.

Will keep you posted.

Thanks again for being here!!

[Counterpoints]

Congratulations, Counterpoints, on the breakthrough!

Thanks!!

[CertainlyPOIS]

counterpoint: I am on the same line with you on that diet and exercise habbit. I am hoping if i do something similar to what you do for like next 4 months, i loose weight and reduce pois alot.

[CertainlyPOIS]

I was just thinking we need committees.
A committe to advertise pois to the medical world/major brodcast
A committe to work on spreading it on the net. (other countries).
A commitee to brainstorm ideas on getting to see endocrinologist eaisier because this is becoming a problem. I belive if i can just get to see one i can find head way with pois.