[RhythmSpring]

So, the "recycling" of one's own ejaculate, orally, does not work for me. I did it, and even took some 5 htp with an orange to give me a boost, but it looks like I'm back to square one. Oh well.

[demografx]

Thank u very much demografx, you made me feel a whole lot better.

Very welcome, and YOUR reply makes my day! []

[Limejuice]

RS, thanks for taking one for the team.

[Merrilee]

Is POIS an autoimmune condition?


Here are the autoimmune conditions you are likely to see in the family medical history of someone with gluten intolerance:

celiac
thyroid disease, hypo or hyper
Type I diabetes
Sjogrens syndrome (diffuiculty with tears, saliva)
chronic liver disease
Rheumatoid arthritis
systemic lupus erythematosus
Addison’s Disease


Here are other conditions common to this population:
vitiligo
pernicious anemia
irritable bowel syndrome
eczema or unexplained contact dermatitis
fibromyalgia
chronic fatigue syndrome
nervous stomach (non-ulcer dyspepsia)
Lactose intolerance
ostopeia and/or osteoporosis
peripheral neuropathy
non-Hodgkins lymphona
psychiatric disorders or depression
small intestinal cancer
anemia
infertility

Here are some of the vague symptoms that may deserve more attention in this population:
bloating
gas and/or stomach cramping
diarrhea or runny stools
constipation
joint pain
numbness or tingling in your extremities
itchy skin lesions
constant unexplained fatigue
frequent headaches or migraines

[ad75]

Hi again chaps!

It has been a long time since my previous post on 19 Jan. I have been experimenting...

I went one whole month without sex or masturbation and felt great, apart from a couple of problems: (1) not having sex sucks, (2) I discovered that I am also suffering from Irritable Bowel Syndrome.

Some of my earlier reported symptoms are down to IBS. The IBS is much improved now by changing my diet a bit and avoiding cold drinks.

With regards to the POIS, Relora is helping me enormously, and I would highly recommend it!! I have also bought Sensoril, and want to give that a try too, soon!

Take it easy,

AD75

[mister_z]

I got an answer (by email) from an endocrinology professor. He told me to check catecholamine levels by a 24h urine test...
Anybody heard about this before?

[mister_z]

It was a professor

[CertainlyPOIS]

It was a professor

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yeah i have done that test, not through a doctor but through prepaidlab.com
my results were normal i think not seen doctor about it yet.
epinephirine           7     ug/l
epinephrine 24hr      10     ug/24hr     0- 32
norepinephirine       43     ug/l
norepinephrine 24hr   60     ug/24hr     0 - 140
dopamine              157
dopamine 24hr         220    ug/24hr     65 - 610

[demografx]

With regards to the POIS, Relora is helping me enormously, and I would highly recommend it!!

ad75, thank you for posting about Relora. It has mixed reviews, but if I'm not mistaken there have been a few successes with it!

[demografx]

My Imperfect POIS Cure

Today, Day Zero, I felt some of my old symptoms, and I thought, "30+ years of fighting, this is such a NUISANCE".

Truth be told: I've simply been spoiled this last year. I've become increasingly intolerant with ANY symptoms, even though I've been 100% POIS-free from Day 1 through Day 4. A "miracle"! Occasionally I have some symptoms on Day Zero. I think it was "Underwater" here who once said that, no matter what the cure is, the body after years of "POIS conditioning" will take some time to re-condition itself, and will retain fragments of the past.

Not enough for me (today).

So I took a 50% increase in my stimulant med (which is part of my treatment) and voila! Day Zero POIS: Gone!

And after my recent, major open-heart surgery, someone might say my action today was foolish. But I have decades of POIS struggle and I know my body, study medications carefully, and I keep in very close touch with a team of excellent physicians. And overall, I cut psych meds by more than half from last year and prior years.

So I'm not playing dangerous games. But they COULD be for someone else. Until good POIS research is conducted.

Once again, I don't recommend or push my treatment on anyone! (Unless someone is curious, asking me pointed questions, and believes that their "path" might be similar to mine).

What I attempt to do here is give people hope. That pushing and fighting and not giving up - even after 3 decades - CAN result in something good. Each renewed fight renews hope, and I believe that the corny, old expression "positive thinking" is crucial to all of us here.

[POIS-SUFFERER]

I have been reading and trying suggestions from this forum now for well over 1 year with no success, until maybe 7-10 days ago when I read something about antiperspirant and the aluminum in it (which I knew about)

I have been using the exact same brand for at least 6-7 years, and lots of others prior to that, so I thought this is an easy thing to stop and see.... well..... within 3 days POIS gone, pretty much 95% at least! I can think straight, I actually want to do things, I feel alive, and energetic! Now I am using just deodorant (aluminum is not part of it)

I can not think of anything else that has changed, still have a stressful job, still have stress with the kids :-)

I keep O'ing just to see if its real or not, the amount I have "tested" would have seriously put me in bed for a week or two! 3 times today and all OK!!! I can not beleive it. Normally within minutes symptoms would start.... feel a little tired but then it was 3!!!! :-) Been about 5-6 days now.

I think it something you guys should try, its so easy to do....

I do think from all the reading I do on this forum that yes it might have worked for me, but I think everyones POIS is related but we all have different triggers, so try it and report back, and of course if my condition changes I will let you all know....

PS.

[Limejuice]

Sufferer, how long did you use deoderant before noticing a difference?

[POIS-SUFFERER]

Sufferer, how long did you use deoderant before noticing a difference?

I saw a difference in 3-4 days once stopped.

PS.

[demografx]

pedro he is talking about the good stuff, "adderall"

Laurac, he was warned repeatedly about not promoting the importing of illegal drugs (the "p.s."), so he and the post are now gone.

my ps - just as an FYI, I no longer take the stimulant you mention, it's now a milder one.

[CertainlyPOIS]

just as an FYI, I no longer take the stimulant you mention, it's now a milder one.

Nice does that mean your doctor agrees you have greatly improved mood wise

[demografx]

Nice does that mean your doctor agrees you have greatly improved mood wise

The doctor trusts my instincts, CC. It was partly new-insurance-related (January 1 switch necessitated a different med), and my decision to lower the doses of both psych meds because of side effects.

In some ways, the major surgery experience improved mood greatly (e.g., very grateful to be alive, and much more appreciative of the goodwill of so many people that I encounter, here and elsewhere), and in other ways it continues to produce some unavoidable highs and lows following this type of procedure. But it gets better every day, luckily.

Thanks for asking, CC.

[demografx]

Sufferer, how long did you use deoderant before noticing a difference?

I saw a difference in 3-4 days once stopped.

PS.

Not to put a damper on it, but I would like to humbly encourage some cautious optimism for several months. I only say this so as to avoid any crushing disappointment over the long haul. It's happened, not always, but too many times to me and to others. Just one example: the placebo effect unfortunately is all too real. But I am not saying that this will happen here!

I wish you the absolute best with this potential treatment! []

[RhythmSpring]

Just one example: the placebo effect unfortunately is all too real.

What's wrong with the placebo effect if it works?

[demografx]

Because eventually it stops working. It's not real.

[mellivora]

I think it something you guys should try, its so easy to do....

I do think from all the reading I do on this forum that yes it might have worked for me, but I think everyones POIS is related but we all have different triggers, so try it and report back, and of course if my condition changes I will let you all know....

PS.

I really hope this continues to work for you POIS-SUFFERER, thanks for posting your findings. I can say that for me it's not a solution since I don't use deodorant! However, like you say, we may all have different 'triggers'.

If your improved state continues and we are to explore all possibilities then perhaps we should also investigate if there is something actually in your new aluminium-free deodorant that helps. I wonder if you and emanmern (who also reported POIS improvement after giving up aluminium deodorant) are by coincidence using the same new deodorant or ones both containing a POIS-killing ingredient that wasn't in your old deodorant?

There is a way to try and test the above if you wanted to. If aluminum deodorant was the problem then if you stop using deodorant altogether one would expect that your POIS improvement would still continue. If its something in the new deodorant that is responsible for the improvement then stopping using deodorant altogether might lead to symtoms coming back and starting to use it again should restore your improved state.