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[poised]

I am starting to feel, quite strongly, that this is an opiod receptor problem. 

I don't think POIS is because of opioid receptors. They are responsible for pain regulation, not mental function. Though, pain is also present as a POIS symptom, maybe POIS affects them in some way. Due to the main POIS symptom - mental impairment - I still strongly believe the main consequence of orgasm to be lack of neurotransmitters.
I am going to try phosphatidylserine. They say it helps to recover neuromediators. Is there anybody who tried it and it didn't work?

[John21 (OP)]

CP,

I have tried norethisterone a few times now.  It didn't work.  It does seem to affect my POIS, but not for the better -- probably for the worse.  So maybe we are at least getting a better understanding of the relevant chemicals?

I am starting to feel, quite strongly, that this is an opiod receptor problem.  The parallels between the withdrawal symptoms and my POIS symptoms, etc., are very strong.  I think naltrexone is definitely worth experimentation.  And maybe even an opiod, just to see what happens.  (As usual, don't try anything without consulting with a physician... this is always my position even if I don't state it explicitly).

Opioid peptides derived from foods would explain my biggest improvement when I stopped drinking milk years ago. And maybe it could have something to do with my latest discovery, that I generally feel better (less tired) when I don't eat bread, and the sensitivity to bread increased while on that diet. I mentioned that when I ate gluten free cookies I was still very sensitive; if opioid peptides were still involved this might explain why. Maybe I am very sensitive to foods that create these peptides. Maybe my apparent improvements with garlic, yogurt/cranberries, spinach etc somehow influenced digestion and absorption of these molecules.

So how to test? Avoid all foods that are purported to create these opioid peptides? Take an opioid antagonist?

[wooder]

i am sure this is linked to autoimmune diseases and adrenal exhaustion/ CFS

I have sarcoidosis of the lungs which I am sure, plays a part or could have even been in part caused by overmasturbation in the first place

sure i read that some taoits belive that , masturbation/sex can compromise your immune system

[ophicus1213]

Just a status update just did a little experiment.  After following my diet strictly for the past week.  A diet of only meat, raw vegetables, rice, and potatoes.  No pois after orgasm. zero 0%.  If you haven't heard me yet, find out if you have sensitivities, even if you think you don't, if you asked me six months ago I would have told you I am not allergic to anything.  If pois was caused by sexual activity, every man in the world would have it.  It would be more popular.  No, we are the individuals that have underlying immune or adrenal stress, and it is exacerbated by sexual activity.  If anyone lives in the San Diego area send me a message.

[Limejuice]

My status:

For about 5 days I've been testing this:

- Gluten free
- Aluminum free
- Alexander Technique (about 8 lessons over 3 months)

Today I visited an allergy doctor who tested for food allergies.  The results were negative - not allergic to any foods tested.  This is interesting because I feel that gluten free foods make me feel better...  I haven't O'd after testing this gluten free diet yet.

[demografx]

No pois after orgasm. zero 0%  [ after "a diet of only meat, raw vegetables, rice, and potatoes." ] 

ophicus, best wishes, I hope it continues to hold true over the next few months! Please keep us posted.

[demografx]

My POIS Testosterone treatment continues, post-open heart surgery. For those of you interested in my treatment:
 
I'm still on 15mg/day Androderm patch. Continues to work after more than a year of treatment. Cardiac/GP team is ok with it.
 
Test                       Result      Units      Reference Interval

Testosterone, Serum    376       ng/dL           280 - 800

Free Testosterone       10.2      pg/mL           6.6  - 18.1
(Direct)

PSA, Serum                0.9        ng/mL            0.0 - 4.0
    Roche ECLIA methodology.
 

[demografx]

...testing this gluten free diet...

Limejuice, best wishes on gluten free test!

[demografx]

sure i read that some taoits [sic] belive [sic] that , masturbation/sex can compromise your immune system

I doubt that they have any evidence to back it up.

[GoingCrazy]

I've been celibate for about 5 weeks now and feel great.  Though not at my best in the mornings.  The strange thing that I have noticed though is that right now I can eat loads of candy and still feel great, but in POIS it would tend to tip off my mood.

I've also been getting crazy weird dreams?  Like I can feel my body but can't move it before I'm actually dreaming... and in this state what's really strange is that I always hear some person talking to me as if a person was right next to me talking and saying strange, scary and weird things... sometimes yelling my name.  Am i being haunted by a POIS Demon?  Lol

[GoingCrazy]

P.S.   has anyone had an exorcism?  lol   ...  I mean we talk about eating our own semen so I thought this was appropriate    []

[CertainlyPOIS]

I've been celibate for about 5 weeks now and feel great.  Though not at my best in the mornings.  The strange thing that I have noticed though is that right now I can eat loads of candy and still feel great, but in POIS it would tend to tip off my mood.

I've also been getting crazy weird dreams?  Like I can feel my body but can't move it before I'm actually dreaming... and in this state what's really strange is that I always hear some person talking to me as if a person was right next to me talking and saying strange, scary and weird things... sometimes yelling my name.  Am i being haunted by a POIS Demon?  Lol

I have those dreams where i am awake but am still asleep, i litearelly have to tell my body to wake up. Everybody gets those though, i had a conversation about that with my coworkers.

[John21 (OP)]

i know why you called yourself 'goingcrazy'.

i dont wanna sound mean, but why would you jump to an extreme/irrational measure like exorcism (if thats what you meant) when i doubt you've gone through all the sensible options such as
...

I'm thinking maybe, just maybe... he was joking.  []

[poised]

Sperm is rich in catecholamine compared to blood : 19 times more noradrenaline and 2 times more Dopac. Is it enough to create an unbalance with such a little volume ? I don't know.

From my own experience, I think that the cause of POIS in my case can be ejaculation, not orgasm. I noticed that the less semen I lose the less severe POIS I have after. One guy on this forum proved that it is a possible cause of POIS for some by having orgasm without ejaculation.
So I think it's possible.
Maybe, are there any additional compounds (absent in sperm) in the prostrate fluid which begin accumulate after ejaculation causing POIS?

[CertainlyPOIS]

am i crazy or what, because i havnt lost hope in progesterone yet. There are different types of pregesterone out there and there are those more powerful than norethisterone, like noregestrel( it is has more powere progestenic and androgenic effects.  Am thinking of trying "plan b medicine"  which is basically over the counter noregestrel for women, after i am able to test progesterone in and out of pois.  I will ask endo(finally found one that dosent require referal) whether it is safe to try or not.

am doing this because that paper is the closest to pois ad it can possibly be without the headache.

[CertainlyPOIS]

Ophicus/anyonel; what is the difference between testing for food sensiivites and allergy. those looking at sensitivity require more powerfull test or reading lab results different from a conventional doctor.

[CertainlyPOIS]

CC:
What about progesterone patches?
I guess it depends if you are low on progesterone.

Are you definitely low on progesterone?
Are you low on testosterone? have you tried those patches?

am not sure yet but i am taking test of progesterone in pois wont know results till march 29
i need to heal but that never happens and try progesterone when normal
testosterone i have conflicting results so  i need to try when am normal, but that i am lucky when i dont get struck by NE or brain orgasm.

[GoingCrazy]

i know why you called yourself 'goingcrazy'.

Is there any other appropriate name to use that is being affected by this disease ? 



And... I was joking I'm not about to go to my mom and tell her I need an exorcism to cure this disease.   []

[GoingCrazy]

Anyone catch the latest South Park on sex addiction?