[GoingCrazy]

Hey demo... any way to change my name to just GC?

[Limejuice]

Defsync,

What muscle relaxer do you use and what dosage do you take?

Thanks!

[demografx]

Hey demo... any way to change my name to just GC?

sure...go to your Profile Page, which is at
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=9913

On your left you will see
Modify Profile

and under that, just click on
Account Related Settings

Put in your new username, password, and click Save Changes. That should do it! Any probs, let me know.....

[daveman]

( About Dave23 post, p311.)

Nac N-acetylcysteine - Alcohol hangover (Wikipedia)

There are claims that N-acetylcysteine can relieve or prevent symptoms of hangover through scavenging of acetylaldehyde, particularly when taken concurrently with alcohol
Additional reduction in acetaldehyde toxicity can be achieved if NAC is taken in conjunction with vitamin B1 (thiamine)

I don't know the details, as to acetylaldehyde, but I remember when I was a little younger and was heading out for a long night at the discotech, I would take a good dose of B complex and vitamin C before the evening and another before bedding down. This normally cut the hangover effects down by a considreable amount. (down to about 20%).

Haven't tried it recently.... don't go to the disco that often, nor party like I used to. I did recently started taking multi Vitamins(not just B) and vitamin C in the morning. No effect out of POIS, but had quite a bad POIS session two days after starting..... although my feeling is that it was just a fluke. I stopped taking the vitamins, but I think I'll try again to see if it was a fluke or not. (gulp)

[daveman]

As far as blood pressure goes...

Have only recently begun to track BP against POIS, although my POIS has been fairly light, so the results could be a little washed out. But...

I started with a recent bad session and the blood pressure went quite high. Tried to lower it taking a bit more medicine, which worked temporarily (1.5 hrs) but it continued high for about 20 hrs. Although this day 0 was pretty heavy, day 1 was light and very little beyond day 2. This surprised me, and hasn't happened like that previously. If day 0 is bad, it usually lasts for more than 5 days.

Several days later, about 5, I had another "O". Had very few symptoms and day 0 BP was normal and day 1 low (for me, 120/56 is low). Day 2 however was a litle higher and a bit over my normal range, (140/65).

One thing I notice, and haven't heard others mention, is that my face goes fairly pink in POIS. This is somewhat normal for higher BP, but it happens even when my BP isn't high. And I notice that I feel BP symptoms even though the pressure is low.

I've always felt that this was because I have a type of POIS which is produced by some auto-immune process and that cronically weakened areas of my body are inflamed or more sensitive to the auto-immune attack.

In case this can light any bulbs out there.

[demografx]

hey demografx, i just finally looked over yer site: http://sites.google.com/site/poiswebsite

...and btw realllly nice work on that site.... thats exactly what is needed... sry i havent checked it out earlier....

...i apologize for not checking out YOUR site sooner.

Defsync, many thanx for the website compliments, which largely belong to "mat780" for his enthusiastic push to build it and create it.

could you add to the list of "successful remedies" complete abstinence? and please include in that the use of 1) lucid dreaming to control dreams in order to prevent nocturnal emissions, and 2) in combination with a mild muscle relaxer, taken before sleep, that desensitizes and makes nocturnal emissions virtually 100% preventable.

This is the method I have used for half a decade and has a 99.98% (DAMN THAT .02%!!) success rate, and has enabled me to be symptom-free virtually every day of those 5 years. I think it's important that this is listed since, imho, it is the only 100% cure (yeah yeah not a cure but you know what i mean).

The compendium is a work in progress. The author is "Pyropeach", who is in China right now. I will send him your suggestions via PM as well as by email.

coming to this Naked Science Forum regularly is.... a difficult process for me, since i have zero hope a cure will ever be found.

awwwwww, Defsync, cheer up! Reading, interacting and following up on the most meaningful suggestions here with the people on this forum is the main reason why I'm mostly 90% POIS-free today, after 30+ years of POIS agony!

Don't give up! If you carefully put all of this place under the microscope, you will find a wealth of goodwill, people, and resources that were never available before to POIS sufferers!

And to me, all of the above (including YOUR generous pledge of a donation to research!) represents a GIANT HOPE that "a cure will ever be found".

Three of us are currently writing to recruit POIS researchers. Join us!

[demografx]

Quoted: "The doctor says I have Post-Orgasmic Illness Syndrome".

I am pleased to see that some doctors are beginning to accept this syndrome.

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B_Jim, I agree! I think that this is exciting news!

[demografx]

Defsync, you mentioned Lucid Dreaming as a way to prevent NE's. I have had some exhilirating experiences with that technique.

edit - Several years back, I met with Dr. Stephen LaBerge, a Stanford pioneer-researcher, author of several books on the subject, and founder of The Lucidity Institute:
http://lucidity.com/

[daveman]

Defsync, you mentioned Lucid Dreaming. I have had some of the most exhilirating experiences with that technique.

edit - Several years back, I met with Dr. Stephen LaBerge, a Stanford pioneer-researcher, author of several books on the subject, and founder of The Lucidity Institute:
http://lucidity.com/

I have worked with lucid dreaming for more than 20 yrs. A very good tool for coming to more fully utilize and understand human consciousness. As you say Demo it can be very exhilirating, completely awake and in control, in a dream, and without most of the physical limitations that we are normally subject to.

Robert Monroe has three very interesting books relating to out of body / lucid dreaming experiences and consciousness levels.

Anyways, as they relate to NE's could be two fold. One, as Defsync implies in the consciousness and control of dream focus, and two, development of greater consciousness as it relates to our body and mind in normal waking life.

Bio-feedback techniques have demonstrated that it is possible to modify hormonal balances simply by knowing when something is happening, even though we are not aware of how the body manages it.

So practice in lucid dreaming gives rise to better understanding as to what's happening, opening the way for self help.

Before everyone jumps all over me, I must qualitfy that all information should be taken into account.... medical testing and physical information in conjunction with heightened gut feel. In fact the heightened gut feel helps to filter conflicting medical reports and vice-versa.

[CertainlyPOIS]

I just wanna say i am going to be gettting LDN, i am so exicted hopefully it works for me as it has for lauracostis. the doctor recomemded i get rid of candida infection first and told me to use candex and grape fruit extract, you guys ever heard of candex?

I know  everybody does not agrees with these, but next is cerebrolysin, i have done some reading and all around this drug is amazing and amazingly safe for how powerfil it is. It has also been approved in some prominent european countries for alzhemiers and being used in other european countries for decades without any major occurences. My only problem is transferring of dieases from pig to human but i believe that can be avoided if cerebrolysin is bought directly from ebewe who have alot to loose if they make a mistake but that is tricky since it is not approved in some country.

[CertainlyPOIS]

Lucid dreaming is cool i have stoped some to sexy dreams, by just constantly worrying about having NE allday and before going to sleep.

[CertainlyPOIS]

Me and some others are going to be sending a letter to Association for Patient Oriented Research(apor), this group is iteresting because they do reasearch testing on patients instead of just tissue and animals.
http://www.apor.org/

[prism]

I saw British Boxing World Champion David Haye on The Alan Carr Show about 6 months back talking about how he never has any sex or ejaculation 6 weeks prior to a fight because it saps his energy.
His opinion was that when you go a long time it without you build up testosterone and its inevitable you'll have a wet dream.
He made the crowd laugh when he said he learnt how to stop any wet dream by controlling his dreams- saying he says "hey, hey back off girl, leave me alone".

[prism]

told me to use candex and grape fruit extract

grapefruit is apparently not good for low testosterone (Ive read this in a book + a nutritionist told me)
i dont feel good after drinking it.

next is cerebrolysin

Be interesting to find out if it effects testicular insufficency/boost testosterone.
Is this what you are primarily hoping?

[CertainlyPOIS]

told me to use candex and grape fruit extract

grapefruit is apparently not good for low testosterone (Ive read this in a book + a nutritionist told me)
i dont feel good after drinking it.

next is cerebrolysin

Be interesting to find out if it effects testicular insufficency/boost testosterone.
Is this what you are primarily hoping?

I dont think i have low testerone i have done like five testosterone and two basic comprehensive hormone test with two different labs and all normal so i have kinda gave up on hormones. 
Cerebrolysin is not for testosterone, it is for the brain itself, it helps almost every aspect of the brain. neuro growth, oxygen usage, glucose metabolism and so on.
Pedro05 was first to post on it, if you want more info about how cerebrolysin works look at his old post. cerebrolysin is an intteresting drug ut its not approved in the USA and obviously has it saftey concerns.

If the grapefruit makes me feel bad i will stop it(thanks for the info), i am going to be using liquid form and just 15 drops a day, i wonder if that makes difference.

[prism]

dont think i have low testerone i have done like five testosterone and two basic comprehensive hormone test with two different labs and all normal so i have kinda gave up on hormones. 
Cerebrolysin is not for testosterone, it is for the brain itself, it helps almost every aspect of the brain. neuro growth, oxygen usage, glucose metabolism and so on.

ah sorry, i thought i read somewhere you had testicular insufficency, must have been someone else..
(something about "primary testicular insufficency" followed by low testosterone scores??)

[demografx]

Me and some others are going to be sending a letter to Association for Patient Oriented Research(apor), this group is iteresting because they do reasearch testing on patients instead of just tissue and animals.
http://www.apor.org/

CC, thanks for your great help in recruiting POIS researchers!

[demografx]

Before everyone jumps all over me...[re. lucid dreaming, OOBE, Monroe, biofeedback]

daveman, it was an excellent post!

[demografx]

"Pyropeach"

Pyropeach, our author of the website POIS Compendium, is in China.

He's recently been staying at the hospital with pneumonia and almost died with a 110 degree fever!

Not the best of medical conditions over there! If anyone wants to send their get-well-wishes, just PM me and I'll be happy to forward it to him.

ps - He received Defsync's suggested changes and wrote that he will do a new revision of the Compendium  ASAP. Now THAT's dedication! []

[prism]

Also I had someone else write to me recently who first posted on the forum before me saying they had testicular torsion operation at the age of 11.
I find all the links with my own testicle operation at 7 and POIS so compelling.
I look forward to hearing back from him.

Me personally, im not too bad, better than i ever have been really (5 years ago i couldnt pick up a pint glass without electric shocks of pain in my hands), still cant go 'O' crazy though or eventually my left testicle will flare up.
It feels so interlinked with memories of the pain as much as anything else.
The only drugs known to eradicate past emotional tramuas you are Propranolol and D-Cycloserine. not convinced at this stage they would help, who knows.

I did buy a TMB Healing Blanket the other day (expensive £250!). I know no-one on here will be too interested as i guess they're seen as pseudoscience but they are really popular in Russia with the neurology experts there and have some good evidence they work. They were developed by that chap Wilhelm Reich (yep him again!) - his whole work was about the bad effects of unhealthy orgasms & I really liked what he said about the links with unhealthy orgasms, muscle rigidity and childhood tramuas (+the neo-reichian therapies im a massive fan of).

These blankets are meant to be great for getting your energy levels up and getting you healthy so I'll let you know what I make of it when it arrives.