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Triggered by LJs post, and the potential that his cure might have on a given group, it's come up for me before, that there are several groups of us. It has been said that we are all different, but I tend to feel that we are different in groups.I seem to be in a relatively small group for instance, that is porbably effected by some pre-existing injury (operation procedure) that is causing an auto-immune reaction.There are others that are part of a group that have low testoserone levels or problems with the testoserone production equipment that triggers the symptopms, and others that effect neurotransmitter balance, etc.. etc..Is there a way we can more formally try to define and separate these groups and identify more clearly which group is which.A doctor would say to a new patient for instance, if he saw that LJs procedure worked for LJ, "OK, lets prove that you are in LJs group first". You would need a defining pre-requisite, besides all of the other tests to assure that one is compatible with the rigours of the treatment.Also it would help us to better apply the potential of other's successes in more properly directed testing. LJs approach probably would have any positive results what-so-ever for me, but that doesn't mean it should be rejected.
I believe the three main pigeon holes are:Mental symptomsPhysical symptomsBoth
The method you describe, daveman, is the one that became more and more difficult for me to do.....I also wonder if aging doesn't have something to do with it. 20 years ago, it was difficult to master but not "impossibly" so, as it seems to me now.Oh well, I do miss it a lot, even after all these years, so I hope I can regain mastery, if nothing else than for the sheer thrill of it. []
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Age, I don't think so, but lucid dreaming does requires a fairly heavy energy level. Lucid dreaming seems to be more of a means than a way. It's sort of like a stairway. Lucid dreaming raises certain consciousness/energy levels. At this new level, the system seems to require more challenges to keep the lucid dreaming going.Some things, like the mask, or people like the Dr. you met, can inject new energy. Carlos Casteneda dedicated a whole book to dream energy. Robert Monroe has dedicated his life to it, but if you use it for a single and more or less simple purpose, like NE prevention, it can be maintained almost indefinately.There are several exercizes that can increase the consciousness energy levels, but that's probably beyond the scope of this thread.
Hello fellow POIS sufferers, I'm just about trying to fall asleep but an idea came to my mind. I was just thinking, a great portion of my family is very smart, and the other portion has mood problems, depression, unmotivated...etc. (im referring to 6 of my uncles) But they are all pretty smart, some you can call geniuses. Now I think a lot of us on this website are really smart. I'm just thinking, you ever meet somebody who is so happy over their heads that they have no intellect? It's almost like, we pick what we are. Ever play a game where you give a certain player attributes? speed? agility...etc, but you have a limited amount of those attribute points? Like we have a great capacity for intellect, but very little for mood. I'm not saying we can never be happy, I'm saying we have little capacity for any mood changes. We can be very happy, we just don't have that adjustment capacity. It seems impossible for me to hear of people who have been orgasm-ing daily for the past 30 years and they don't have any mood problems. i don't know, i find it all it little weird. Tell me if I'm wrong. For me it seems like a lot of the smart people end up having something wrong with their mood. I'm not saying all do. As for me, I orgasmed freely for about 3 years without noticing any mood problems. For us we just have to avoid orgasm. We have to avoid that sexual temptation to be ourselves. Now if you're stupid and have POIS, than I guess I'm wrong lol. I'm not talking "grade smart" because for grades it is a combination of mood and intellect. You can get terrible grades but still be a genius and just have no motivation. Just tell me what you think about this.
for me, once I was able to achieve lucid dreaming without effort, I dont even have to bother with it most nights. What happened to my brain at this point was I could take IMMEDIATE control of my dream and wake up at even the slightest HINT of a possible incoming O. So now I just sleep, let my dreams do what they will, and if an O draws near, my brain auto triggers awakening without any real effort on my part. I LOVE IT lolololol..... yeah honestly I dont even try to lucid dream even more beyond this because in my mind it's much safer to just wake up, and go back to sleep, where my dreams will take me in a completely different direction.
you know my doctor said not O'ing at all should have no serious side affects... but since nocturnal emissions are a natural part of being male, I wonder if by completely shutting this mechanism down, it doesnt cause some kind of damage in one way or another.... like increases the chance for prostate cancer or affects hormonal balance in some kind of negative way
Now I think a lot of us on this website are really smart. I'm just thinking, you ever meet somebody who is so happy over their heads that they have no intellect? It's almost like, we pick what we are. Ever play a game where you give a certain player attributes? speed? agility...etc, but you have a limited amount of those attribute points? Like we have a great capacity for intellect, but very little for mood.
but you have a limited amount of those attribute points? Like we have a great capacity for intellect, but very little for mood.
LJ, I think most of us appreciate your caring, consideration, sensitivity and caution!
Quote from: John21 on 09/05/2010 17:50:03I believe the three main pigeon holes are:Mental symptomsPhysical symptomsBothNormally I suffer physical symptoms more than mental symptoms, yet today, day 1, I went to the store and could barely describe what it was I wanted. How embarassing.However it seems clear that symptoms and causes are distinct. The same symptoms and/or combinations can be caused by differing means. I am fairly sure, although don't have resources to prove it, that testesterone treatments wouldn't work for me... from all that I have read and compared to my particular POIS experience.Perhaps part of our problem is that we are trying to solve the problem based on symptoms, when we should be trying to look at cause profiles. And in fact, I know that individually we are doing that. But it might help to organize a little better these cause profiles.The information is there, perhaps it's even been done, Demo?, if not, is there a way to reorganize ourselves into groups or at least define means by which the individual groups could be identified?
From "Pyropeach" re Compendium"Here’s revision 4. The major change is the request from Defsync and I added an appendix at the end detailing the steps he developed to prevent NE. I rewrote most of his instruction in my own words (I hope he won’t mind), but still accredited him as the developer of the method. I plan on expanding the testosterone section, but I’ll have to continue gathering more research on it."Does anyone recall the forum member(s) who had success with testosterone? - thanks, demo
I propose that there is a 3rd area, emotional. Sadly, a number of sufferers have felt suicidal. Sadness, confusion, and many other characteristics, including the commonplace severe fatigue, I believe fall into this domain. It's more than just physical or cognitive.