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How much relief do you think you are getting from the T alone if you were not taking the adderall ritalin with it.
I do not remember if I asked you this before but do you take Lipitor® or any Statins for high cholesterol/LDL.
Also, you will not have to worry about impregnating any of Charlies goddesses with a sperm count like that.
Demo T/P Update Day 4
Quote from: GoingCrazy on 15/04/2011 06:43:37I suggest you guys just give excedrin pm a try.GoingCrazy, I do know that you mean well, your intentions are sincere, but please refrain from giving others POIS treatment advice. Even physicians do not do this over the Internet without seeing the patient. We are all different, and some people here have been desperate enough to try anything. They might even try overdosing your suggestion.There are also countless "silent readers" here who are not necessarily up to speed on everything we discuss.GC, many thanks for your cooperation. We value your participation here very much!
I suggest you guys just give excedrin pm a try.
You want me to stop giving advice on what has helped me? I understand the possibility of overdosing. You can get information on any site about drugs. That's really their own responsibility. I totally understand, but is there a way I can suggest a medication?
The most amazing thing to me so far in this T/P experiment is how devastating POIS can be - even with no sperm!!! (Sorry, Dr Waldinger!). Wait, he did say SEMEN. []Even if the zero-sperm is a result of testosterone treatment, I am not 100% cured, I am 80%.And - believe me - I have had some LULU 20%-days!!!!
Quote from: demografx on 14/04/2011 22:19:09Demo T/P Update Day 4I'm sorry guys, but if this drowsiness doesn't improve enough, I'll have to quit.
Hi Demo,Thanks for your encouraging reply about your children [and sperm production]. That is really good. Im single and its just a worry trying to explain these things. I live in the UK and feel embarrassed to tell my doctor about POIS.
Quote from: demografx on 15/04/2011 19:41:29The most amazing thing to me so far in this T/P experiment is how devastating POIS can be - even with no sperm!!! (Sorry, Dr Waldinger!). Wait, he did say SEMEN. []Even if the zero-sperm is a result of testosterone treatment, I am not 100% cured, I am 80%.And - believe me - I have had some LULU 20%-days!!!!My experience also confirms that same observation. I was surprised also. Because after I had the oriectomy I could not produce sperm, yet I still had pretty much the same amount of ejaculate. And I still had significant POIS. It lessened the POIS, but was not away completely. For me it was more like 20% better instead of 80% though.Now that I think of it, maybe more of us should get our semen analyzed if possible. If one can afford it. Just to have a "baseline" measurement to compare to later. What do you think?That in addition to getting the full hormonal analysis too! []
Just to have a "baseline" [Semen Analysis] measurement to compare to later.
Quote from: GoingCrazy on 15/04/2011 21:49:06You want me to stop giving advice on what has helped me? I understand the possibility of overdosing. You can get information on any site about drugs. That's really their own responsibility. I totally understand, but is there a way I can suggest a medication?Just do what the rest of us do, which is to share our own personal experience. "This is what I do, and it's working for me." Not, "Here, try this." And if you notice many of our posts, even when we say, "this is working for me", you'll notice a disclaimer: "but this is not meant as a suggestion for YOU."To suggest a medication over the internet is generally not permitted ethically, even by physicians. Thank you very much for understanding.
Demo T/P Update Day 5
So the conclusion is that POIS is not an allergy to sperm?
Quote from: demografx on 15/04/2011 19:41:29The most amazing thing to me so far in this T/P experiment is how devastating POIS can be - even with no sperm!!! (Sorry, Dr Waldinger!). Wait, he did say SEMEN. []Even if the zero-sperm is a result of testosterone treatment, I am not 100% cured, I am 80%.And - believe me - I have had some LULU 20%-days!!!!Maybe it's not only a semen allergy but also an allergy for the other liquids after an ejaculation.
Quote from: lauracostis on 13/04/2011 07:34:25The P/T contraceptive treatment, if it works may have the potential for working by alternate actions than just removing the sperm from our bodies(this is an alternate hypothesis to just the regular sperm allergy theory, and was the primary reason I thought of using P/T as a treatment). It will stop a myriad of hormones that are associated with the production of sperm. I believe that there is a possibility that these hormones are causing the reaction in our bodies; possibly something like "gonadotropin releasing hormone". these hormones are released after ejaculation to replace the sperm, I also believe that some of these hormones are preemptively released in response to arousal and stimulation in preparation of what the body believes will end in sperm loss to jump start the process of sperm production before ejaculation happens. Don't worry, if the P/T contraceptive works, there are a number of different possibilities why it is working besides just removing the sperm for sperm allergies. Another possible theory is based on the fact that both progesterone and testosterone can suppress the immune system. Progesterone is one of the possible hormones in pregnancy that some believe is responsible for the immune system not attacking the fetus as a foreign invader in the body during gestation. I am doing an obstetrics rotation right now and I have been told that autoimmune disease usually significantly improve during pregnancy and then return to normal afterward. The P/T contraceptive is going to cover a bunch of bases at once.Worth repeating!
The P/T contraceptive treatment, if it works may have the potential for working by alternate actions than just removing the sperm from our bodies(this is an alternate hypothesis to just the regular sperm allergy theory, and was the primary reason I thought of using P/T as a treatment). It will stop a myriad of hormones that are associated with the production of sperm. I believe that there is a possibility that these hormones are causing the reaction in our bodies; possibly something like "gonadotropin releasing hormone". these hormones are released after ejaculation to replace the sperm, I also believe that some of these hormones are preemptively released in response to arousal and stimulation in preparation of what the body believes will end in sperm loss to jump start the process of sperm production before ejaculation happens. Don't worry, if the P/T contraceptive works, there are a number of different possibilities why it is working besides just removing the sperm for sperm allergies. Another possible theory is based on the fact that both progesterone and testosterone can suppress the immune system. Progesterone is one of the possible hormones in pregnancy that some believe is responsible for the immune system not attacking the fetus as a foreign invader in the body during gestation. I am doing an obstetrics rotation right now and I have been told that autoimmune disease usually significantly improve during pregnancy and then return to normal afterward. The P/T contraceptive is going to cover a bunch of bases at once.
Quote from: demografx on 14/04/2011 22:19:09Demo T/P Update Day 5I woke up nauseous, tired, with a strange libidinous-sensation, so I'm not taking norethindrone (the P in T/P) today any more. That's all for now with this experiment.
Quote from: alky on 16/04/2011 19:01:52So the conclusion is that POIS is not an allergy to sperm? Where on earth did THAT conclusion come from?