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I was refering to your implication that
Quote from: JRD on 28/08/2011 21:41:24Quote from: daveman on 28/08/2011 21:04:48Incorrect and you know it!No, I don't. I know many people with psychological/psychiatric problems, who have been taking various drugs and they are actually doing worse, fighting with side effects, new or worse problems, being emotionally numbed, just surviving. But to be objective, this is most likely a specific problem isolated in the sphere of psychiatry, not a medicine as a whole.I am hinting at the fact, the psychiatry is the field, under which the typical profile of POIS sufferer's symptoms belongs best to.I'm sure most of the medical world sees it this way. I'm also sure that 99% of people with POIS do not see it that way. My symptoms were mainly cognitive, yet it was only when I was out of POIS that I ever wondered if I had a psychiatric illness, while in it there was no denying that it was a physical reaction with mental results. This belief has been proclaimed many times here, and confirms in my mind that some day we will discover the physical mechanism that produces POIS.Sorry Demo, no progress on the fMRI. It was just mentioned to me in passing, and I guess it wasn't really that serious of an option. Perhaps I'm not the best person for this anyway as I am chaste.
Quote from: daveman on 28/08/2011 21:04:48Incorrect and you know it!No, I don't. I know many people with psychological/psychiatric problems, who have been taking various drugs and they are actually doing worse, fighting with side effects, new or worse problems, being emotionally numbed, just surviving. But to be objective, this is most likely a specific problem isolated in the sphere of psychiatry, not a medicine as a whole.I am hinting at the fact, the psychiatry is the field, under which the typical profile of POIS sufferer's symptoms belongs best to.
Incorrect and you know it!
Sorry. I was ironic... But I asked myself what kind of help we could get in a hospital? Intravenous fenugreek?
I've found that Vinpocetine is sold by Solaray, so it should be easy to find a shop to try it. EDIT: It only includes 5mg of Vinpocetine. I think there are other brands that include more quantity.
Quote from: daveman on 28/08/2011 13:33:55Are you kidding, if I have one "O" on each of two days in a row, I'm practically ready for the hospital.If there's anyone here that can have several "O"s per day, I don't think it's POIS that they have.I disagree with you here, Daveman. I am able to have multiple orgasms a day, but I am always in a constant state of POIS because of this....I suffer from almost every symptom that POIS sufferers have mentioned except for, perhaps, headaches.Just because my sex drive is higher or the time between orgasm and when I'm able to ejaculate again is shorter than normal doesn't mean that my POIS symptoms are any less debilitating than yours.If you believe that SE is a milder version of POIS then I have POIS. Not SE.
Are you kidding, if I have one "O" on each of two days in a row, I'm practically ready for the hospital.If there's anyone here that can have several "O"s per day, I don't think it's POIS that they have.
Quote from: JRD on 27/08/2011 22:56:40Has anybody here tried to masturbate several times in a row (i.e. 4 - 10 times in a few hours) and watched its effects or better - tried to masturbate as many times as possible per day and keep continuing in the following days?Are you kidding, if I have one "O" on each of two days in a row, I'm practically ready for the hospital.If there's anyone here that can have several "O"s per day, I don't think it's POIS that they have.
Has anybody here tried to masturbate several times in a row (i.e. 4 - 10 times in a few hours) and watched its effects or better - tried to masturbate as many times as possible per day and keep continuing in the following days?
Quote from: daveman on 28/08/2011 13:33:55Quote from: JRD on 27/08/2011 22:56:40Has anybody here tried to masturbate several times in a row (i.e. 4 - 10 times in a few hours) and watched its effects or better - tried to masturbate as many times as possible per day and keep continuing in the following days?Are you kidding, if I have one "O" on each of two days in a row, I'm practically ready for the hospital.If there's anyone here that can have several "O"s per day, I don't think it's POIS that they have.I just noticed this. You are basically the owner of the poiscenter.com and you are doubting other people just because you can't handle more than 2 O's??? That is a very dangerous stance because you are comparing yourself to other people.I guess I need to remind you that people always suffer the same ailment differently. Just look at such a "simple" thing as a flu. Even with flu if you compare two infected you can find many differences in the symptoms. And about that psychiatric thing.. how many people have had panic attacks with POIS? I bet ALOT.. we shouldn't rule out anything. But of course psychologist and psychiatrists won't help a single POIS patients especially with the pharmaceuticals that proved to be absolutely ineffective. But maybe there's more to this topic of brain functions - people reported some interesting phenomenons already. Also Remember when that russian guy came in and was proposing XN? One of the moderators here said it was "quackery". I admit he was very suspicious from start but then this approach turned out to be a good thing which seems to help everyone who tries it.
Quote from: makrofag on 29/08/2011 08:02:31Quote from: daveman on 28/08/2011 13:33:55Quote from: JRD on 27/08/2011 22:56:40Has anybody here tried to masturbate several times in a row (i.e. 4 - 10 times in a few hours) and watched its effects or better - tried to masturbate as many times as possible per day and keep continuing in the following days?Are you kidding, if I have one "O" on each of two days in a row, I'm practically ready for the hospital.If there's anyone here that can have several "O"s per day, I don't think it's POIS that they have.I just noticed this. You are basically the owner of the poiscenter.com and you are doubting other people just because you can't handle more than 2 O's??? That is a very dangerous stance because you are comparing yourself to other people.I guess I need to remind you that people always suffer the same ailment differently. Just look at such a "simple" thing as a flu. Even with flu if you compare two infected you can find many differences in the symptoms. And about that psychiatric thing.. how many people have had panic attacks with POIS? I bet ALOT.. we shouldn't rule out anything. But of course psychologist and psychiatrists won't help a single POIS patients especially with the pharmaceuticals that proved to be absolutely ineffective. But maybe there's more to this topic of brain functions - people reported some interesting phenomenons already. Also Remember when that russian guy came in and was proposing XN? One of the moderators here said it was "quackery". I admit he was very suspicious from start but then this approach turned out to be a good thing which seems to help everyone who tries it.Sometimes "quackery" people use non-quackery knowledge. It was me who have told this Russian guy to try XN. The XN solution was found by Olga Vasil'evna Bruslenko, who was my doctor for a while. And this guy succeeded. Long before this event I told at this forum about my experience with XN and no one bother to try it. So, what to do? Blame me that I didn't insist and begged others to try the drug. Or say this guy was right and everyone should do like him, e.g. lie everyone about research which didn't exist and show himself in a light of a person who brings you the knowledge?Such way or another it turned out that this knowledge made itself the way to several people and helped them. But please let's stick to the truth, don't be mislead. Olga Bruslenko found this drug to help POIS symptomps. I told about this solution at russian and english forums. And Dmitriy used this information and behaved exactly like a quackery person. But even with all this mess, if you are analyzing facts with caution, experiment with caution and try to ACTIVELY seek the solution for yourself you will get the good results.Victor
Quote from: victor.kons on 29/08/2011 09:25:18Quote from: makrofag on 29/08/2011 08:02:31Quote from: daveman on 28/08/2011 13:33:55Quote from: JRD on 27/08/2011 22:56:40Has anybody here tried to masturbate several times in a row (i.e. 4 - 10 times in a few hours) and watched its effects or better - tried to masturbate as many times as possible per day and keep continuing in the following days?Are you kidding, if I have one "O" on each of two days in a row, I'm practically ready for the hospital.If there's anyone here that can have several "O"s per day, I don't think it's POIS that they have.I just noticed this. You are basically the owner of the poiscenter.com and you are doubting other people just because you can't handle more than 2 O's??? That is a very dangerous stance because you are comparing yourself to other people.I guess I need to remind you that people always suffer the same ailment differently. Just look at such a "simple" thing as a flu. Even with flu if you compare two infected you can find many differences in the symptoms. And about that psychiatric thing.. how many people have had panic attacks with POIS? I bet ALOT.. we shouldn't rule out anything. But of course psychologist and psychiatrists won't help a single POIS patients especially with the pharmaceuticals that proved to be absolutely ineffective. But maybe there's more to this topic of brain functions - people reported some interesting phenomenons already. Also Remember when that russian guy came in and was proposing XN? One of the moderators here said it was "quackery". I admit he was very suspicious from start but then this approach turned out to be a good thing which seems to help everyone who tries it.Sometimes "quackery" people use non-quackery knowledge. It was me who have told this Russian guy to try XN. The XN solution was found by Olga Vasil'evna Bruslenko, who was my doctor for a while. And this guy succeeded. Long before this event I told at this forum about my experience with XN and no one bother to try it. So, what to do? Blame me that I didn't insist and begged others to try the drug. Or say this guy was right and everyone should do like him, e.g. lie everyone about research which didn't exist and show himself in a light of a person who brings you the knowledge?Such way or another it turned out that this knowledge made itself the way to several people and helped them. But please let's stick to the truth, don't be mislead. Olga Bruslenko found this drug to help POIS symptomps. I told about this solution at russian and english forums. And Dmitriy used this information and behaved exactly like a quackery person. But even with all this mess, if you are analyzing facts with caution, experiment with caution and try to ACTIVELY seek the solution for yourself you will get the good results.VictorVictor: I'm missing the point of your post. The bottom line is that without the guy stirring up the conversation again the XN would not be "discovered" and tried by other users. If he was banned and his posts deleted right just after his first posts the XN/Niacin would be forgotten again.
My point to not to discard any idea that hasn't been really tried. God knows if there was an answer on this forum to POIS already and it was overlooked or discarded (maybe even silenced) because of the strong bias to the small number of theories here (which are still sadly just unproven theories). If your doctor was just following what Waldinger put into the papers she would with a very big probability never ever tried the vasolidators with you.
POIS symptoms are caused by a PHYSICAL reaction to orgasm or ejaculation.Can we all agree on this? I feel if we can all agree on this single point then we can move out of this argument of whether it is a psychological or physical problem.
Quote from: Vincent Marcus on 29/08/2011 18:55:30POIS symptoms are caused by a PHYSICAL reaction to orgasm or ejaculation.Can we all agree on this? I feel if we can all agree on this single point then we can move out of this argument of whether it is a psychological or physical problem.It's been over 2 yrs now that the whole idea of psychological has been disproven. We have a real ailment that is NOT in our heads.
I want to ask a question here:I would like to post it also in Romanian, if there is no problem.Is there anyone from Romania on this forum or visiting this forum and/or know anything about a doctor in Romania interested in POIS? I would realy like to know this. You can send me a PM or write directly here on this forum. I hadn't think to ask this directly here before.In romanian:Este cineva din cei ce citesc acest forum din Romania? Cunoasteti vre-un doctor care e interesat de cazuri de POIS sau aveti vre-o informatie folositoare?... as dori daca se poate sa imi timiteti un PM sau sa scrieti direct pe forum raspunsul.Multumesc.
Quote from: emi_b on 29/08/2011 19:47:11I want to ask a question here:I would like to post it also in Romanian, if there is no problem.Is there anyone from Romania on this forum or visiting this forum and/or know anything about a doctor in Romania interested in POIS? I would realy like to know this. You can send me a PM or write directly here on this forum. I hadn't think to ask this directly here before.In romanian:Este cineva din cei ce citesc acest forum din Romania? Cunoasteti vre-un doctor care e interesat de cazuri de POIS sau aveti vre-o informatie folositoare?... as dori daca se poate sa imi timiteti un PM sau sa scrieti direct pe forum raspunsul.Multumesc.Dr. John Dean, the past president of ISSM (International Society for Sexual Medicine) is currently Professor Invitat at the Victor Babes University of Medicine and Pharmacy, Timisoara, Romania. Telefon: 0256/204400, 0256/204250 newbielink:http://www.sexualmedicine.org/JohnDean.asp [nonactive]Contact him and show the 2 papers by Dr Waldinger published in JSM (Journal of Sexual Medicine). JSM is affiliated with ISSM!!