[demografx]

emi_b, Dr Dean is also an associate editor at JSM along with Dr Waldinger.

While Dr Dean  may not know much about POIS (most physicians sadly do not!), as past President of ISSM could recommend someone suitable in Romania.

Best wishes on finding POIS medical help in Romania, emi_b! []

[demografx]

NORD's accounting department advised us that $200 in donations for the POIS Research Fund was recently received!

Thank you, DONORS!! This is such uplifting news!!!

[demografx]

Hi all,

There's been an unfounded push lately to stab at the credibility of POIS and the several lines ("TRT", auto-immune, XN as examples), that have been more widely credited.

This has caused a disturbance in the advance of the forum. We are open to discuss new issues, however when backup for a theory is requested by moderators, it should be sought and produced, or at the very least a discussion followed which leads to where and how such information can be found.

We need to  insist on quality material (as we always have) but this does not mean that new material cannot be taken on.

We cannot afford much in the way of conjecture and pure philosophical speculation.

Best wishes to everyone for a 100% elimination of POIS. SOON!!!

[demografx]

emi_b, Dr Dean is also an associate editor at JSM along with Dr Waldinger.

While Dr Dean  may not know much about POIS (most physicians sadly do not!), as past President of ISSM could recommend someone suitable in Romania.

Best wishes on finding POIS medical help in Romania, emi_b! []

Hi Demografx.

Thank you very much for your sugestion.
The link you gave to me (doctor's site) is very good. I've phoned at Victor Babes University, and the person that responded didn't knew anything about him, so I am thinking to contact him and ask him directly, as you said he could know to recommend me to go to a good doctor here in ROmania, or anything helpfull.

Thanky you,
Emi_B

This contact can help you locate Dr Dean:

Jason Roberts
Managing Editor, JSM
36 Old Mill Lane
Plymouth, MA 02360, USA
Fax: (+1) 508-242-1184
Phone: (+1) 617-417-6269
Email: jsm@issm.info

[Vincent M]

I've taken ginkgo biloba pills three times recently and I've noticed mild improvement in concentration and mental energy the hours following taking the pills. Each time I was about ready to take a nap to fend off my mental exhaustion, but after taking the pills I was able to stay awake for the remaining hours and fall asleep with no trouble at my usual bed time. I feel it may have had a slight anxiety-reducing effect as well.

The first time I took a single 120mg pill around late noon and the only thing I noticed was that I didn't feel tired anymore. The second time I took three 120mg pills and 2 hrs later I easily noticed an improvement in my ability to focus as well as slightly reduced anxiety, however I also noticed a faint swelling feeling in my head as if I had a small headache although it was painless. The third time I took two pills and noticed the same effects, but with less of the odd swelling feeling. There were a few days in between each trial. Also I'm still taking fenugreek + garlic every morning.

Next I'll try a single pill again to see if I missed the other positive effects the first time. I'll report back to let you guys know if repeated trials yield the same results for me.

[Quasar]

I've taken ginkgo biloba pills three times recently and I've noticed mild improvement in concentration and mental energy each time. Each time I was about ready to take a nap to fend off my mental exhaustion, but after taking the pills I was able to stay awake for the remaining hours and fall asleep with no trouble at my usual bed time. I feel it may have had a slight anxiety-reducing effect as well.

The first time I took a single 120mg pill around late noon and the only thing I noticed was that I didn't feel tired anymore. The second time I took three 120mg pills and 2 hrs later I easily noticed an improvement in my ability to focus as well as slightly reduced anxiety, however I also noticed a faint swelling feeling in my head as if I had a small headache although it was painless. The third time I took two pills and noticed the same effects, but with less of the odd swelling feeling. There were a few days in between each trial. Also I'm still taking fenugreek + garlic every morning.

Next I'll try a single pill again to see if I missed the other positive effects the first time. I'll report back to let you guys know if repeated trials yield the same results for me.

I did take ginkgo for a time, but it did nothing to me.

What helped me a little was Ginseng. I bought a good quality brand, in liquid extract form, and it helped a little my energy levels, and was a little less fatigued post-orgasm. It was not a cure for POIS, but helped my fatigue.

At present i'm not taking it because it was an expensive brand, but if i could, i would take it every day.

If anyone wants to know the brand i was taking, i can tell you in a private message.

[Vincent M]

Quasar, I think it'd be fine to post the brand right here at the forum seeing as there are most likely some silent readers who would be interested in knowing. But a pm would be fine as well. I'll probly get around to trying ginseng pretty soon.

[demografx]

VM and Quasar, many thanks for the updates.

[demografx]

NORD's accounting department advised us that $200 in donations for the POIS Research Fund was recently received!

Thank you, DONORS!! This is such uplifting news!!!

[Quasar]

Quasar, I think it'd be fine to post the brand right here at the forum seeing as there are most likely some silent readers who would be interested in knowing. But a pm would be fine as well. I'll probly get around to trying ginseng pretty soon.

Ok then, i used the ILHWA brand, but it has to be the "extract" form, because the "capsules" are not steamed, so their are only white ginseng. The extract is white ginseng too, but it's low-temp steamed, so it has, supposedly, the benefits from both white and red ginseng.

I used to dilute a small spoon of the extract with a hot cup of green tea.

But i suppose other brands are effective too, and not so expensive. You should look for high quality red korean ginseng extract. I don't know if other types, like American or Siberian ginsengs are as effective.

BTW, talking about roots, another root that helps me a little too is fresh Ginger. I buy it at the market or greengrocer. I take a raw slice and chew it for some minutes and then swallow it. Ginger is supposed to help with inflammation and testosterone support too.

But then again, note that these herbs help a little, but they don't cure Pois.

[Habibou]

I went to Dr Goldmeier for an appointment and the Intradermal test with my own semen and it turned Positive : I got a spot of 20 mm diameter and a thickness of 5 mm !  The area around was totally red. I got it from the immunologist and he said I was definitively positive to my own semen !

Even the skin ***** test was already positive and the intradermal was done with a dilution of 1/40 000
(here is the result in pictures, I do not know if we can see it well)
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[demografx]

THANK YOU, HABIBOU!

[Quasar]

Thanks a lot Habibou! Dr. Goldmeier is in the U.K., right? Has he had an appointment only for you, or is he having several appointments with Pois sufferers?

So, i undertand they made you a skin p.r.i.c.k test and an Intradermal test? Both positive? The Intradermal test is part of the treatment, or is it only for testing purposes? Are you going to be treated by him? If so, is his approach similar to Waldinger's?

BTW: The pictures are GREAT! It shows clearly that you have an allergy.

[demografx]

Thanks a lot Habibou! Dr. Goldmeier is in the U.K., right? Has he had an appointment only for you, or is he having several appointments with Pois sufferers?

Dr Goldmeier, UK, is one of this forum's strongest allies.

We highly recommend him. You can email him.

[Habibou]

Thanks a lot Habibou! Dr. Goldmeier is in the U.K., right? Has he had an appointment only for you, or is he having several appointments with Pois sufferers?

So, i undertand they made you a skin p.r.i.c.k test and an Intradermal test? Both positive? The Intradermal test is part of the treatment, or is it only for testing purposes? Are you going to be treated by him? If so, is his approach similar to Waldinger's?

BTW: The pictures are GREAT! It shows clearly that you have an allergy.

Thank you Demo, Quasar and B_jim !
Yes, dr Goldmeier is very understanding and i suggest you see him if you are nearby or from UK! He already has seen some pois patients and some from the forum too! It was very expensive for all the test and consultation, but at least it was a pleasure to finally see a doctor who leads the test instead of having to tell the doctor What to do...! I will have my blood test result and I could then tell you What options i will take to treat me ( desensitization would be the best long term one according to me...) I also benefited from the fact i was in London to buy Niacin 500mg with flush
To finish, the team told me i also get in addition to Pois the Chronical Tirness Syndrome due to too many Pois sessions in a row probably...( i kind of believed it already myself!) They think i should get cure quite easily of this CFS since i don't have hypersomnia!

[GoingCrazy]

Sorry for not posting in a while, I try to keep POIS low-key, I just try not to think about it... :[

Has anybody mentally felt any benefits from the allergy test/skin *****, where they put semen inside their skin.  Desensitization?  I believe... Has anybody honestly felt any benefits from that?

And, I "O'd" 4 times yesterday, the first 3 one after the other.  Felt a sense of calmness, but as time progressed, it gradually morphed itself into a panic/anxiety thing which is what POIS is for me.  I don't get any physical affects.  Also I see flashing lights which indicates a migraine? 

POIS still lasts only about a duration of a day for me, which is good compared to two weeks 2 years ago.

I was reading in a prior post about someone alternating between a serious POIS state and a state of overconfidence.  I totally agree, there is rarely a middle ground where you get to know yourself.

I believe I posted a few months ago about Migranal I tested out for a migraine.  <--Pois symptoms, flashing lights.  I remember it doing its job, but I took it on day 2 which is when I am usually free of most symptoms.  I think I might try to get my hands on some of the prescribed migranal and see if their are real benefits.

Also, shouldn't masturbation be a sort of desensitization?  As your body gets used to it every time one reaches orgasm.  And the sperm is always in your body?  shouldn't that desensitize you?  Sorry I'm just a bit confused here.

[GoingCrazy]

Also, I'd like to see a study of normal men injected with their own semen.  Because if we can approve that 100% of normal non-pois men do not flare up after having a skin ***** test, and over 90% of us do, that is some useful information and would definitely persuade me that an allergy to semen is what can be causing all of this havoc and instability.

[demografx]

GoingCrazy, yes, we definitely need more research on non-POIS controls.

[B_Daniel]

Also, I'd like to see a study of normal men injected with their own semen.  Because if we can approve that 100% of normal non-pois men do not flare up after having a skin ***** test, and over 90% of us do, that is some useful information and would definitely persuade me that an allergy to semen is what can be causing all of this havoc and instability.

Yeah we all would love to see that!  Over the weekend gather up 50 guys and tell them you are going to inject them with their own semen... or if that proves difficult, an easier way would be to donate to NORD... bc that'll likey be the 1st thing the researcher does

To answer your question on why we can't cure ourselves through enough sexual activity although desensitization does.... it's because your body reacts allergically to the semen.  Only when your semen is very highly diluted can the body figure out how to defend against it.  The dilution is lowered each time you receive a desensitization treatment until eventually the body can fight the semen at full strength.

Lastly, you wrote that your POIS only lasts a day now, compared to 2 weeks a while back.  I must have missed your posts where you explained what you did that has helped your pois.  Can you re-explain pls?

[Itsthatskater]

So does that just about settle the fact that this is an allergy rather than a 'Mental' thing?