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So had one of those "O" things after almost 3 weeks and noticed something. I felt crap this morning. Brain not functioning, inability to remember facts etc. Took 100mg of niacin (as I've been doing) and noticed no flush after a few hours. Another 100mg and no flush. Another 50mg 3 hours after that and the flush started. Post flush, I could think more clearly. This suggests that I was undergoing some kind of b3 depletion (and/or related b vitamins as described in the theory at http://www.poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=197.0) Has anyone else had a similar experience and how much niacin are you guys taking to relieve the symptoms?Also had another thought, is there any female analogue to POIS?
Hi jake, could you please let us know, by using your 'drink water before sleep' method, how long have you managed to prevent a wet dream from happening?Thanks
I'm taking the Sloniacin, something I found at Walmart, its composed of 500mg niacin and is formulated to reduce flushing. It's definitely a remedy to help relax the brain and improve symptoms. But unfortunately for me it only works for a limited amount of time. Like I can get POIS, than take niacin, feel better, the niacin wears off, than I feel POIS again.Right now I have crazy POIS, I O'd 6 times yesterday...
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Quote from: badgerstripe on 29/11/2011 10:24:203) I've also noticed that sometimes if I feel particularly 'given to' in the sexual process i get NO negative symptoms - I can't explain this one!hi badger, can you please explain what you mean by #3? I'm not sure what you mean by "given to". Thanks
3) I've also noticed that sometimes if I feel particularly 'given to' in the sexual process i get NO negative symptoms - I can't explain this one!
Quote from: GoingCrazy on 02/12/2011 22:47:22I'm taking the Sloniacin, something I found at Walmart, its composed of 500mg niacin and is formulated to reduce flushing. It's definitely a remedy to help relax the brain and improve symptoms. But unfortunately for me it only works for a limited amount of time. Like I can get POIS, than take niacin, feel better, the niacin wears off, than I feel POIS again.Right now I have crazy POIS, I O'd 6 times yesterday...Hmm, having 6 O's in one day might wear anybody out Interestingly, since the O, I've only had 1 flush despite doubling my dose. Whereas in my state of O-lessness (over 3 weeks) I was flushing every day after 150mg.
Quote from: GoingCrazy on 02/12/2011 22:43:44Quote from: badgerstripe on 29/11/2011 10:24:203) I've also noticed that sometimes if I feel particularly 'given to' in the sexual process i get NO negative symptoms - I can't explain this one!hi badger, can you please explain what you mean by #3? I'm not sure what you mean by "given to". ThanksHi GoingCrazyWithout going into lots of detail(!) some interchanges with people, sexual or otherwise, can leave me feeling drained, other times they can leave me feeling quite energised. One way of saying this is that its not good to be doing all the work!The connection with histamine in all this is fascinating i think as i get quite bad tree pollen allergy in the spring and i believe i have had some relief with taking niacin and that hot prickly feeling all over with the pollen allergy has reduced. These hayfeverish symptoms with tree pollen allergy are very similar to POIS symptoms for me except that i dont get sneezing, itchy eyes, stuffed sinus with POIS.
Quote from: kurtosis on 28/11/2011 19:08:18My experience is that _anything_ that requires a) significant working memory such as mental calculations or mathematical operations b) recollection of a fact or concept is impaired. Yeah, I'd agree with that. Quick story: I live in SF now and moved here from Dallas. So last Wednesday a manager of mine asked me what my plans are for thanksgiving. I told him that besides the normal festivities, I was looking fwd to watching the Cowboys game as I don't get many of their games in SF. So I walk into work this morning, and he asks me how the Cowboy game was - a game in which I watched all 3 hours - and I said good. Then he asked me who won. I couldn't remember! I had to say I couldn't remember, and then it took me sitting at my desk thinking about it for 30 seconds to remember. I mean, that's even a low for me, but it's not the first time. Every once in a while I'll watch half a game and the next day not be able to even quickly recall both teams I watched play. There's no way that's normal, unless you're a heavy drug user perhaps. It's just a tough way to live your life.
My experience is that _anything_ that requires a) significant working memory such as mental calculations or mathematical operations b) recollection of a fact or concept is impaired.
What is the name of the show and episode from the Learning Channel about POIS?
Quote from: B_Daniel on 29/11/2011 07:21:51Quote from: kurtosis on 28/11/2011 19:08:18 My experience is that _anything_ that requires a) significant working memory such as mental calculations or mathematical operations b) recollection of a fact or concept is impaired. Yeah, I'd agree with that. Quick story: I live in SF now and moved here from Dallas. So last Wednesday a manager of mine asked me what my plans are for thanksgiving. I told him that besides the normal festivities, I was looking fwd to watching the Cowboys game as I don't get many of their games in SF. So I walk into work this morning, and he asks me how the Cowboy game was - a game in which I watched all 3 hours - and I said good. Then he asked me who won. I couldn't remember! I had to say I couldn't remember, and then it took me sitting at my desk thinking about it for 30 seconds to remember. I mean, that's even a low for me, but it's not the first time. Every once in a while I'll watch half a game and the next day not be able to even quickly recall both teams I watched play. There's no way that's normal, unless you're a heavy drug user perhaps. It's just a tough way to live your life.The shining light here is that loss of working memory isn't permanent. At least for me. When POIS is "over", I assume that your working memory is ok.
Quote from: kurtosis on 28/11/2011 19:08:18 My experience is that _anything_ that requires a) significant working memory such as mental calculations or mathematical operations b) recollection of a fact or concept is impaired. Yeah, I'd agree with that. Quick story: I live in SF now and moved here from Dallas. So last Wednesday a manager of mine asked me what my plans are for thanksgiving. I told him that besides the normal festivities, I was looking fwd to watching the Cowboys game as I don't get many of their games in SF. So I walk into work this morning, and he asks me how the Cowboy game was - a game in which I watched all 3 hours - and I said good. Then he asked me who won. I couldn't remember! I had to say I couldn't remember, and then it took me sitting at my desk thinking about it for 30 seconds to remember. I mean, that's even a low for me, but it's not the first time. Every once in a while I'll watch half a game and the next day not be able to even quickly recall both teams I watched play. There's no way that's normal, unless you're a heavy drug user perhaps. It's just a tough way to live your life.
An interesting thing:For those who are having cognitive symptoms, anyone here feel like there's high pressure inside the head or a disconnect between two sides of the brain, or a feeling like theres an obstruction of blood flow?It seems for me it almost feels as if POIS causes cerebral vasoconstriction. Every time during the process of recovery, I would feel as if I'm having increased blood flow to the brain. It's interesting because during POIS when I try rotating my eyes if feels as if theres some sort of resistance behind the eyes in the brain area. From personal experience only, it seems that the mental symptoms and the increased pressure/weird feeling inside the head are completely linked.Looking to thoughts/experiences/feedback
Thanks, very quick ! []http://www.contentdeity.com/video/517157040/Orgasm-Flu-in-Men.htmlYou can add this one. I think the Pois channel is another fantastic tool !We have Girlwind video which is a very good introduction to Pois (>13 000 views!).Two or three TV health clips.And the documentary on Frank's Pois.
Quote from: Guthrie on 18/09/2011 22:50:54Has anyone on the forum done comparison tests between regular niacin and nicotinamide, to see if the latter has any effect on POIS?Or also compare Niacin with L-Histidine.http://psychology.wikia.com/wiki/HistamineSexual responseResearch has shown that histamine is released as part of the human orgasm from mast cells in the genitals. If this response is lacking this may be a sign of histapenia (histamine deficiency). In such cases, a doctor may prescribe diet supplements with folic acid and niacin (which used in conjunction can increase blood histamine levels and histamine release), or L-histidine. if L-histidine works too (prior, like niacin) then it could point towards low histamine at orgasm as a feature of POIS, if you get my drift.
Has anyone on the forum done comparison tests between regular niacin and nicotinamide, to see if the latter has any effect on POIS?
Quote from: Defsync on 03/12/2011 20:00:21What is the name of the show and episode from the Learning Channel about POIS?The Learning Channel's (TLC) feature TV presentation on POIS, featuring our member here at this forum, "Animus". It was aired on May 22, 2011. Here is a link to the YouTube file for the POIS TV documentary, "Desperate Measures"://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sdaR18vw1s
first :31 seconds in and he tells me he once had a normal sex life. Am I the only one that was born this way and from the first orgasm to my last its assaulted my brain eliminating the majority of my intelligence?