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Hi everyone!

I've just found this forum. It's good to see 700+ pages of discussion, but also hard to catch up, so forgive me if I'm doing something wrong here. I'll just start by telling you about my condition. Any tips are welcome.

My condition is specific to masturbation. No matter how often I have sex, there is never a feeling of fatigue, as long as it is sex with someone.

However, if I masturbate, even if I do it after a week of celibacy, I feel extremely bad physically the next morning. It is only a physical effect, and it is far more serious the morning after I masturbate. The effect is especially terrible if I masturbate more than once.

When this happens, the next morning, I feel there's draining in my leg bones and/or muscles (I'm not sure what happens), my feet, etc. The feeling is usually so terrible that I have to wait for an hour before getting up.

This is a very serious problem.

I've tried taking calcium+magnesium+zinc. I almost always eat healthy, balanced and organic. This started to happen two years ago. Nothing significant has changed in my life that I can think of. I don't know what caused this to happen. It was not a problem before to masturbate several times everyday. But, now it's enough to have this terrible physical pain even after doing it twice on the same day once a week. I eat the same.

I'm a 32 year old male. This started to happen 2-3 years ago. I don't know if there's a connection, but I have varicocele. It has almost always been there; nothing new. Maybe it started to affect after some years, but the effect is only in my legs, and mostly my feet.

Any help or opinion would be appreciated.

[GDRTW]

Does anybody knows what happened to Slavrs website? I read a notice saying "Access to this site is restricted". I personally found it to be informative and right on the button. It would be a shame to see it gone for good.

[Kima]

demografx
John21
B_Jim
 
hello
Who will participate in the study ?

thank you

 

[johanstefansson]

Had orgasm yesterday and today once again no physical problems at all. Only some tiredness and brain fog.
And some light freezing.

2 years ago it had been extremely worse.

I have an extremely strict non porn policy today and guys I can assure you, it works. Gets your neurotransmitters back on track.

However seems to be taking a reeeeeeally long time to get 100 percent cured. With this pace it will take 10 years.

[chickenpox3]

I ate durian next day after sex yesterday and felt relieve from most symptoms. At first, I thought it was a conscience, but next day I accidentally found that durian is famous for its content of vitamins B and niacin in particular. Can there be anything special about durian that helped me besides niacin?

[johanstefansson]

uhh, I've been having cognitive problems last days. worse than expected. this decease is so strange.

have not been taking my nutritional pills as usual, must not forget them.

[Kima]

It is strange to me Selenium-methionine helps relieve the symptoms of pois

[johanstefansson]

some time ago after frequent masturbation i used to get a kind of pulsation in the eye and eyelid, does anyone here recognize this?

[gondal4]

It is strange to me Selenium-methionine helps relieve the symptoms of pois

Kima what an idiot u r,u said u were cured by germany?

[Kima]

It is strange to me Selenium-methionine helps relieve the symptoms of pois

Kima what an idiot u r,u said u were cured by germany?

Treatment Herman, does not help
Herman knows no cure pois
He conducted experiments on us


Kima,Russia

[johanstefansson]

could it be stomach parasites we have?

[Over it]

could it be stomach parasites we have?

That sounds like a loud of crap to me. This sounds more credible: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypochondriasis [nofollow]
So we have all established that Hermans alchemical recipes are a load of crap yeah?
Now all we need is for Nathan's doctor to realize that his detox treatment was not the real reason why Nathan is feeling better.
This 80% crap....It's all bullsh*t.....

[CertainlyPOIS]

could it be stomach parasites we have?

That sounds like a loud of crap to me. This sounds more credible: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypochondriasis
So we have all established that Hermans alchemical recipes are a load of crap yeah?
Now all we need is for Nathan's doctor to realize that his detox treatment was not the real reason why Nathan is feeling better.
This 80% crap....It's all bullsh*t.....

It is possible to have overgrowth of bacteria and parasites but you have to go to a gastroenterologists to get proof. If there is an overgrowth of anything they probably will cause problems.
A consistent member that has been here a while believes he has cured is pois through his gastroenterologist. His  gastroenterlogist treated him for overgrowth of bacteria.

[LAPOISSE2]

Nathan's and all other got better mostly because they believed and decided they were going to get better ; Be some kind of medical authority, tell people you know what problem they have, and that there are going to get better...in 80% of the case, they are going to get better unless there is a serious organic problem. Placebo effect is huge on POIS...It means something and we should use it.
Regarding the variety of technics and treatments we have seen here that was efficient, POIS is very likely a somatic related disorder.
It doesn't mean we dont have physical problem ; It's clear that you can get vascular problem, gut problem, nervous system problem etc caused by  unapropriate thinking patterns.
It doensn't make sense that 30 diferents technics cure people that were 100% sure of having POIS ; non exhaustivly,  cure was testosterone, SSRI, most of herbs we can find in the market, vitamine regimen, progesterone, cognitive therapy, multimineral therapy, panchakarma, channel calcium blockers, treatment for pyroluria,testicule removal,  etc...and it just the one I remember.
 
My experience is after tried pretty much everything that the least I focus on it, the better I am ; POIS is surely a 21th century disease like CFS or neurovegetative dystonia, it's possibly linked to some bad habits or toxines but I guess the best we can do to help ourself is recognised that it's somatic related- maybe 30% maybe 90%- and that we have a big part to play in the cure process...it's less confortable, demand more courage but it's probably our best shot to have a better life

[CertainlyPOIS]

could it be stomach parasites we have?

That sounds like a loud of crap to me. This sounds more credible: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypochondriasis
So we have all established that Hermans alchemical recipes are a load of crap yeah?
Now all we need is for Nathan's doctor to realize that his detox treatment was not the real reason why Nathan is feeling better.
This 80% crap....It's all bullsh*t.....

I am waiting on Bdaniel to get final verdict on herman. It looks like bdaniel is willing to see the treatment through and give a good evaluation of it.

[ajs]

I think this has already been addressed but I just wanted to know how many of u have back or neck problems..pinched nerve or bad back spasms or shoulder (right shoulder)
 problems like repetitive stress?

[Over it]

I think this has already been addressed but I just wanted to know how many of u have back or neck problems..pinched nerve or bad back spasms or shoulder (right shoulder)
 problems like repetitive stress?

Absolutely, absolutely, I get terrible back, neck, shoulder, and pelvic pain/stiffness on the right hand side only during POIS. I get black rings around my eyes too, & what feels like an inflamed prostate. And my voice becomes very weak and croaky. And my breathing becomes shallow. And I feel like sh1t... Just sayin.

[Over it]

It doensn't make sense that 30 diferents technics cure people that were 100% sure of having POIS ; non exhaustivly,  cure was testosterone, SSRI, most of herbs we can find in the market, vitamine regimen, progesterone, cognitive therapy, multimineral therapy, panchakarma, channel calcium blockers, treatment for pyroluria,testicule removal,  etc...and it just the one I remember.
 

Don't forget tonsil removal & UARS..... I totally agree. 30 different effective remidies for the same affliction. Doesn't that strike anyone else as a little odd? Or maybe those that are cured didn't really have POIS, & they were just faking it?

My experience is after tried pretty much everything that the least I focus on it, the better I am ; POIS is surely a 21th century disease like CFS or neurovegetative dystonia

The same disorder was around in the 19th century but is was known as neurasthenia.

[Over it]

It is possible to have overgrowth of bacteria and parasites but you have to go to a gastroenterologists to get proof. If there is an overgrowth of anything they probably will cause problems.
A consistent member that has been here a while believes he has cured is pois through his gastroenterologist. His gastroenterlogist treated him for overgrowth of bacteria.

I pray that it is parasites or bacteria. That would be easy. I don't doubt harmful parasites or bacteria exist. Infact just the other day my sister was diagnosed with celiacs disease by some quack without doing any real tests what-so-ever. He gave her a very strict and unsatisfying dietary regime to follow. I told her that she was a fool if she accepted what this d1ckhead said whithout any evidence & she was potentially sentencing herself to a barren life without bread or other such gluteny treats for no reason at all. Anyway, she got properly tested and had actually contracted a parasite from overseas and was appropriately treated.

Do you know which bacterium was responsible for the longterm POISers POIS? When you discover it's name & the mechanism by which it creates POIS symptoms, can you let me know so I can tell my doctor.

[CertainlyPOIS]

It is possible to have overgrowth of bacteria and parasites but you have to go to a gastroenterologists to get proof. If there is an overgrowth of anything they probably will cause problems.
A consistent member that has been here a while believes he has cured is pois through his gastroenterologist. His gastroenterlogist treated him for overgrowth of bacteria.

I pray that it is parasites or bacteria. That would be easy. I don't doubt harmful parasites or bacteria exist. Infact just the other day my sister was diagnosed with celiacs disease by some quack without doing any real tests what-so-ever. He gave her a very strict and unsatisfying dietary regime to follow. I told her that she was a fool if she accepted what this d1ckhead said whithout any evidence & she was potentially sentencing herself to a barren life without bread or other such gluteny treats for no reason at all. Anyway, she got properly tested and had actually contracted a parasite from overseas and was appropriately treated.

Do you know which bacterium was responsible for the longterm POISers POIS? When you discover it's name & the mechanism by which it creates POIS symptoms, can you let me know so I can tell my doctor.

Some bacterias and parasites dont have to create loud symptoms for them to have an effect on the body. I will ask if he is still getting relief and more details on the bacterias.