[Thapelo]

Thanks a lot ! i will visit the site these days, my doctor just called me and said that i first have to go to AMC amsterdam, since thats where i live. thanks for the information !

[MrVat7]

A new POLL > http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=49790.0

check what's common within POISers

[MrVat7]

Yeah, Cool . 8D

[johanstefansson]

I have to say that SSBT is very interesting, mrvat7 thank you for posting.

If i were to contact my doctor about this, what remedy would i ask for, surgery?

http://www.vasectomypain.org/immunologic_consequences

[MrVat7]

Hello johanstefansson
 Pleasure's all mine.

If i were to contact my doctor about this, what remedy would i ask for, surgery?

Yes, a surgery to close open channel that lead semen into bloodstream. Try to convince your doctor about SSBT and how it causes POIS. Tell him this may be rare or he may not have seen such case earlier, but that doesn't mean that SSBT-POIS does not exist.

MrVat7

[Limejuice]

Hi MrVat7,

Appears to be a one person party at that link.

The autoimmune theories has been inexhaustibly discussed over 793 pages on this thread.  For a party treat I suggest you review those pages and enjoy

EDIT- I highly recommend reviewing my previous posts about the professional research guided hypersensitivity tests for semen and sperm (blood based).  These tests were preformed by the University of Cincinnati's Dr Bernstein.  Feel free to do a google search...

[icefloe]

Hello MrVat7,
I just will tell more my case. I am over 50 but even I had once in month ejaculation I have POIS symtoms. Three years ago I got small brain lesion left side after masturbation, same time when I lost eye sight.  This is like Multiple sclerosis (MS), but this is from POIS. I have realized that there is difference between sex with partner or masturbation. Masturbating will destroy your body faster if you are POISers. Since that I never masturbate and very hard to think about sex with partner. But now even I live like monk I am not POIS free. I have lot of chronic problems but my body again under mild POIS attack after I push stools out during defecation. Many POISers are talking about this. Is this fluid from prostate and seminal vescles? I can see like per seminal fluid in my urethra after pushing. Also I feel same mild POIS after I just have  sexless relationships. I have never tried Niacin flush or Viagra for eliminate POIS symtoms but now this is only hope to go on.  I just wondering, there are many hundreds POISers but they are almost gone. A they cured by AD as this is only offical treatment for us with "funny" symtoms.

[MrVat7]

Hi Icefloe
Discharge of seminal fluid during defecation is common in your age group. What happens is as one passes his 50s many muscles gets weak. Passage of fluid from prostate and seminal vesicle is governed by tiny muscles which act as valves in regulating fluid flow. As those muscles get weak small pressure can make fluid release from prostate or seminal vesicle. During defecation there is majority of pressure on prostate, so maybe your fluid is getting released from there. Some of sperms get reserved in the prostate,which are mainly leftovers from previous ejaculation,or are sent from testis as daily basis(if you had thought/seen/experienced something seductive). As those few sperms get into your bloodstream you have mild POIS attack. To avoid those mild POIS attack you can avoid experiencing something seductive. I recommend you to get blood tested for presence of sperm in bloodstream. Remember only get blood tested when you are under POIS symptoms. If the results are positive then you can ask local physician to find the active leakage site and get it closed.

Getting your testicles removed may help curing POIS as then there will be no sperms to enter bloodstream. You may consider getting blood checkup, and try to convince local physician about SSBT, you may get your total urethra checked up,now-a-days Cystoscopy is used, you can possibly find a small channel somewhere there.

[acronym]

Getting your testicles removed may help curing POIS as then there will be no sperms to enter bloodstream. You may consider getting blood checkup, and try to convince local physician about SSBT, you may get your total urethra checked up,now-a-days Cystoscopy is used, you can possibly find a small channel somewhere there.

^ That is a very drastic solution. It also assumes sperm is the problem. I suspect it would some other protein in the seminal fluid rather than sperm. Testosterone can be used as a contraceptive, and for a while there companies were going to market it as such with implants. Side effects for some men were such that it was decided it was not viable to market it as a contraceptive. Testosterone will inhibit spermatogenesis. I have taken high dose T (above TRT levels and got testicle shrinkage) and still suffered from pois. Pois was not as bad once I got on TRT though. As far as I can tell there is no blood test to detect sperm in blood, but more along the lines of checking for antibodies. They sometimes do this as part of fertility treatment for couples that have trouble conceiving. I read some stories of guys that had high levels of antibodies, which attached to the sperm and drastically effected quality & mobility. In these cases the guys never suffered from any adverse health consequences, beyond reduced fertility.

[MrVat7]

^ That is a very drastic solution. It also assumes sperm is the problem. I suspect it would some other protein in the seminal fluid rather than sperm. Testosterone can be used as a contraceptive, and for a while there companies were going to market it as such with implants. Side effects for some men were such that it was decided it was not viable to market it as a contraceptive. Testosterone will inhibit spermatogenesis. I have taken high dose T (above TRT levels and got testicle shrinkage) and still suffered from pois. Pois was not as bad once I got on TRT though. As far as I can tell there is no blood test to detect sperm in blood, but more along the lines of checking for antibodies. They sometimes do this as part of fertility treatment for couples that have trouble conceiving. I read some stories of guys that had high levels of antibodies, which attached to the sperm and drastically effected quality & mobility. In these cases the guys never suffered from any adverse health consequences, beyond reduced fertility.

Hello Acronym

Well I dont recommend anyone to get testis removed, one of member here has got both of his testis removed and feels 90% relief from POIS and that is why Ive posted it so that FEW here dont feel that what they have done is incorrect and that I am just saying about SSBT. He is taking testosterone injection/ drug to keep testosterone levels intact. Seminal fluids and prostate secretion can also bring immune system attention. I agree that increasing testosterone levels to high levels can cause FSH inhibition and so inhibiting Spermatogenesis. You might get semen checked after increasing testosterone levels to see whether your drug has really inhibited spermatogenesis. If so there would be no sperm cells in your semen. If there are sperms in your semen, then they are still entering your bloodstream to cause immunological response. You might get semen checked after increasing T levels, semen -sperm count tests are done cheaply this days, you might get it done to verify your drug. This is interesting case. I predict there are sperm cells in your semen. 

[demografx]

POIS GRANT AWARDED/ACCEPTED 5:00 PM EST THURSDAY EVENING!

Barry Komisaruk, PhD from Rutgers University in New Jersey, is the award recipient and the Principal Investigator for the first formal POIS study. He will be working in conjunction with an MD from Rutgers.

The research will focus on fMRI's in men with POIS, will include control subjects for comparison, and will examine brain function before, during and after orgasm.

The purpose of the study is to observe reactions and structural changes that may be occurring in the brains of POIS sufferers -- changes which explain the severe cognitive impairments of POIS, and also potentially explain the general physical reactions as a whole (pain, headache, severe fatigue, as examples).

If brain reactions are found, this will lead to determining the cause of POiS -- but more importantly -- may well elucidate treatments that are available now-- to counteract these changes.

Landmark study!!!!  More to follow!!!!

[Nightingale]

I'm not very far from Rutgers, my mother actually graduated from there! fMRI is such a powerful technology, I'm really glad that's the method they are going to use!

[MrVat7]

Does anyone have contact with researchers ? can anyone make them aware about SSBT , just to enlighten an idea in researchers ? and yeah Hurray guys..I wish we all be free from pois soon. 

[demografx]

I'm not very far from Rutgers, my mother actually graduated from there! fMRI is such a powerful technology, I'm really glad that's the method they are going to use!

Thanks, Nightingale ! We'll need you!

[demografx]

Does anyone have contact with researchers ? can anyone make them aware about SSBT , just to enlighten an idea in researchers ? and yeah Hurray guys..I wish we all be free from pois soon. 

I'm sure they read your posts, MrVat7.

[MrVat7]

I'm sure they read your posts, MrVat7.

Dwmografx
I would say.Cool

[Kima]

demografx

Thanks for the news,I think that doctors will find a cure for us

[demografx]

[demografx]

demografx

Thanks for the news,I think that doctors will find a cure for us

I think so too, Kima! []

[Kima]

This doctor will explore our syndrome.

http://nwkpsych.rutgers.edu/~brk/