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Also, my muscle mass will improve and i will look little bit fat (Basically I am skinny person) .
But the moment I ejaculate that all that pressure will vanish and will feel light headed . Also, my body will shrink
itself and will become very lean . 

I'm the same, and there is another skinny guy on here who says the same.  If I abstain I will start to put on weight, but its not like I can just go a week and the weight starts to pile on. It takes a couple of months. Its ******* crazy and its not like its a case of me consuming more food those times. Unfortunately for me it does not seem to be a case of abstain for a few months and the body will replenish whatever chemical/mineral it was missing and hey problem solved no more pois. It comes back, not as strong at first but within a few times its like the break made no difference at all and I start to lose weight again and muscles get sore. Its like pois makes us (well a few of us) catabolic. I do have low IGF-1 levels but that is not a common feature of others here. I had my urine checked for amino acids to see if I had protein defect and they checked out fine.

[4everfogged]

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Also, my muscle mass will improve and i will look little bit fat (Basically I am skinny person) .
But the moment I ejaculate that all that pressure will vanish and will feel light headed . Also, my body will shrink
itself and will become very lean . 

I'm the same, and there is another skinny guy on here who says the same.  If I abstain I will start to put on weight

I also agree.

[4everfogged]

Message to Poiscenter Administrator's:

Can somebody please remove the RUSSIAN SPAM on Poiscenter about models showing clothing?

It's so disrespectful of people doing such things while we here are trying to work on our health issue.

TIP: Perhaps somebody from EU time zone should also have power to remove such SPAM. Perhaps somebody that has already been a long term and regular user!!!

Kind regards

[4everfogged]

Hi all

I'm one of those who completed the poiscenter survey about 12 hours ago. I recommend all "POIS'ers" to do it, even if you not registered with poiscenter.com
They say it takes about 45min to an hour but for those who want to take extra time, there's no timer. I recommend doing it in the morning in case you want to take your time and add your own personal details or story. If you working perhaps do it over the weekend. But perhaps send them already an email so you can get the link to the survey in the meanwhile. []

http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2074.msg16377#msg16377

[DEANNX]

i wonder if anyone here also experience loose facial muscles after o???everytime after i have a o, within 1-2 weeks my face will look very skinny and loose.
anyone here have this issue as well???do you know how to sort it?

thanks
dean

[RhythmSpring]

^ Seems like a symptom of a much deeper problem. Why try to cover up the appearance when you could be seeking to address the root cause?

[B_Jim]

Chris MacMahon .pdf about Pois :  link

[4everfogged]

Because I abstain these days I have this feeling that some symptoms that some of us get that are not the usual symptoms could possibly also be reduced quite a lot when abstaining as much as possible. Though as you know, it's not all that simple. For example, sometimes I'd get these painful cramps in my lower jaw. They would occur in the middle of the night and they'd wake me up instantly. You could compare it like a cramp that you'd get in one of your leg muscles when you'd spend too much time in water. I was just thinking about this when reading about some having overbite complaints. Another issue I have is pain in knees, especially one side. It would get to a point where one of my legs no longer wants to follow me, especially if I'd walk up or down steps or a ladder. It seems this problem has also been reduced quiet a lot, thinking it's POIS related. A doctor once checked my knees and found nothing wrong. Another problem I have is bad blood circulation in my feet; this would affect me especially in cold temperatures. My big toes get red and very painful. If I'd spend too much time in cold sea water my feet tend to feel like as if they freezing. My feet would feel like as if I'm walking over gravel when getting out the water.

Am I having an illusion or what; that this could be POIS related in my case?

[4everfogged]

How Diet Can Ease Autoimmune Disease Symptoms..............Dr. Horwitz

http://realestate.aol.com/blog/videos/green-living/231376985/

[Vincent M]

i wonder if anyone here also experience loose facial muscles after o???everytime after i have a o, within 1-2 weeks my face will look very skinny and loose.
anyone here have this issue as well???do you know how to sort it?

thanks
dean

I also get loose/sagging flesh post orgasm, especially in my face. I've found that fenugreek and saw palmetto help the most with this for me.

[Vincent M]

^ Seems like a symptom of a much deeper problem. Why try to cover up the appearance when you could be seeking to address the root cause?

Why would we waste time exploring a vacuum? There is no documented medical literature concerning loose facial flesh following orgasm. This only occurs post ejaculation for me so how could there be an underlying root problem unrelated to orgasm/ejaculation? I could say the same thing about nearly any of our symptoms. The science of orgasm/ejaculation is in its infancy, which is the heart of this argument. Do you agree with that statement?

[DEANNX]

i wonder if anyone here also experience loose facial muscles after o???everytime after i have a o, within 1-2 weeks my face will look very skinny and loose.
anyone here have this issue as well???do you know how to sort it?

thanks
dean

I also get loose/sagging flesh post orgasm, especially in my face. I've found that fenugreek and saw palmetto help the most with this for me.

Thanks for the reply, I am glad that I am not alone in this. And I am wondering how fenugreek and saw palmetto is helping you??who recommend you to take them?? And do you notice any differences between o from masturbation and o from having sex in term of getting loose face muscle???Also I know they are herbs but can you develop tolerance to them over a period of time???

[4everfogged]

Quote from Poiscenter today

   Accutane
« : Today at 08:56:03 AM »     From: Pvchain
My POIS started after i used this drug for acne during a period of 6 months.

Has anyone here treated with Accutane too?

I'm sorry if there are any grammar error. English is not my main language.

I've also given this a thought before!!!

In my teens I was on Roacutanne, I guess it must be the same product

I must also say that I have a brother who also used it, he does not have POIS.

As far as I remember I think my POIS also started after this treatment (Though I also need to say, I believe my POIS actually started when a small kid, but the symptoms were not as aggressive way back then)

[4everfogged]

I totally agree with those who think something is going on with our digestive system. I personally feel very sensitive regarding mental focus depending what type of food I eat. Even if I'd drink let's say 750ml of water in one go I easily get some loss of concentration. If I have an above average portion of french fries with mayo or if I'd eat them 2 days in a row for lunch, I can then guarantee that I also build up mental fatigue with loss of concentration; this situation can even take me 2 days to feel back to normal while reverting to a healthy diet. Another example: I'm not allergic to seafood but if it's a festive day and I'd have a seafood platter (with homemade mayo) with family, everybody will have their stomach well filled but if I go along with them the same thing happens again to me if not even worse at times. As soon as my brain gets affected I feel less connected in the social conversations.

Best food to eat is for example as breakfast (slow digestive food) is a big bowl of oats mixed with a banana (nice and ripe) and mixed with some soya milk (zero sugar) in which I dissolve pure coco powder.

Even if I don't eat and feel hungry I am sure my (our) brains are effected differently than somebody that does not have POIS.

At the end of the day no matter how much I try to control this, it stays a continuous challenge. Even if I spend loads on supplements I still don't have full control over this issue.

It's very well possible that the root of our POIS problem is somewhere hidden in this "mechanism".

[ozmoses]

I've created a Facebook page for POIS as I'm trying to help find out if there are particular genetic variables that could help explain POIS as well as treat it.  Please join and share.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/mthfrpois/ [nofollow]

[ozmoses]

How did you cure your POIS?

Interesting quote on Reddit

benvil45 1 point 2 hours ago
"Hi, Yes my POIS is cured. It was 100% down to digestive issues. Both SIBO and yeast infection. "
This is what he told me in 2014, maybe things have changed. I personally don't have have any specific thought of what causes POIS, there's probably no set in stone cause for everyone imo.
I just thought I'd comment on something that, from the info I've got from Kurtosis is wrong, maybe things have changed and I'd be very interested in seeing that information.
"Did you know that poor methylation limits your body's ability to remove toxins?"
Fully aware.

http://www.reddit.com/r/POIS/comments/302j7v/discussion_general_pois_discussion_thread_if/ [nofollow]

Hope to hear more details

[ozmoses]

Nathan 123

After taking the antacid syrup, what is the next step to your "cure"

Its about four months I not updated to the forum. As explained in earlier post in Jan month I was cured only 75% from POI's and I updated that I was expecting 100% cure in next two months from doing exercise. However it took me me four months for 100% cure from pois and now I am fully 200% Pois free person. There was no response for the technique I shared to the forum. No problem. However I wanto tell guys, spent lakhs of bucks to find out what was the reason for my pois and sharing the forum how I cured from the POIs. In India as I shared around year ago i with my doctor started identifying people with symptoms of POis through local media and found many people whobr not aware of their POI's and taking treatment under different illnesses. Actually we r not having pois
 It is different illness and it is triggering for orgasm. I will tell dimple procedure for the forum and it may cost u only 2$ and may be 2 min of time to check whether my theory is correct. Just by one antacid syrup used for gastritis and pls have one spoon of syrup with water after food in Pois period and see within 1 hour u will find reduction of pois by 25%. I will tell how POI's will reduce in one spoon of antacid syrup once u respond and also I can share in detail what was happened to me and what I done in last six months for compute cure from Pois. This forum helped me in 2011 to understand my POI's and finally I found out my POI's reason. I want other members to be cured asap. Pls respond to my above which cost u only 2$.

[ozmoses]

EGGS.   Definitely not a cure for POIS. I eat plenty of eggs regularly and it hasn't made a difference. Glad it's worked for you.

Hello everyone
I am happy to tell u that there may be a way to cure pois and that it is not irreversible. I was always desperate to escape from pois hell. I think i may have found a solution. I was reading all the posts in NSF forum and i came across a member named Gcrisp, who developed POIS after 50 yrs when he was asked to take statins. Fortunately he was able to recover from pois after stopping statins and also after eating eggs daily  for a few months. Since i hv tried every other solutions and nothing worked, i started to eat eggs daily, i ate 2 eggs daily for a month and then i started to eat 3 eggs daily. I have been eating 3 eggs daily for 2 months 28 days. My pois was a type where i recover from tiredness within 2 days, but the pois hangover never lifts, it is always there. After eating eggs for 1 and half month my pois duration reduced to 3 days, then with each week pois duration reduced by 6 hours. Now my pois lasts for 1 day 13 hrs, i really hope as days go pois duration would get reduced even further.
I felt that i should share this information with u , becuase if i was in your place i would be desperate even for a little help.
It takes atleast a month to feel benefits of eating eggs. I dont know about the quantity of eggs to eat daily, but i feel very good by eating 3 eggs daily.
Please do read Gcrisp post on NSF forum for more details.

[ozmoses]

Thanks for sharing this info Nathan123. I'm going to try this.

First of all my apology to the forum for not posting the 15 minute exercise, I have used. The intention behind this is I thought, whether can I able to add any add-ons to that exercise and I tried many and finally today comes to a conclusion that 15 minute of yoga mentioned in earlier version to be posed and I am posting the. The same is below as follows.
a)   For the first five minutes – pls do the body lossening exercises i.e. to legs, shoulders, hands, neck, - search in google you find many………
b)   For next five minutes – Pls do the dynamic warmup exercises.
The above two steps are the preppatroy steps for the yoga posute.
c)   Now pls do the yoga posture Ardha Matsyendrasana (Only Three rounds – Pls not do more than this, as you are not practicing under the trainer). It may take five minutes.  Pls do not this exercise in full stomach. Your stomach should be empty. Otherwise there may be some other problems. Suggested timings is morning and in the evening before food.  Also, person with knee injury, spinal cord problems should not perform this exercise as it would severe the problem.
Compare the POIS at the beginning of this exercise and now. If you find decrease in the POIS symptoms, my POIS is equal to your POIS and God has finally helped us….We won. 
Update on me:
a)   In my last post, I mentioned that presently my POIS attached reduced to 30% as I am practicing on hour yoga exercise daily. Now, I find even slight reduction can say 25% attack and this attack is tolerable and this 15 minutes.
b)   You may know, from last three years, I tried so many experiments and in yoga I tried one. That is to have Sex after that one hour exercise ( I compare taking of Nicain and have sex and accordingly I tried this).  So, out of past 15 days, 6 times I had Sex & big O immediately after the one hour yoga exercise and the results are amazing. After big O, now there is no POIS, it is 0%, further I am experiencing opposite to POIS i.e. relaxation of mind and peace can say, it is POST ORGASMIC HAPPINESS SYNDROME (not a syndrome). Yes, if I do, O after one hour exercise, I am experimenting, full of joy, happiness, its like heaven to me…. But, if I had O not after exercise, then again that 25% POIS symptoms. My yoga thereapist told this 25% would come to 0% in just two months.
Logic behind my solution:
c)   As explained earlier, it was the problem in nervous system. Now because of yoga, my nervous system is strengthening. So, presently, I am having three solutions.
a)   15 minutes exercise to recover from POIS attack if I had O in the night
b)   One hour yoga to reduce the attack from 25% to 0% in next few months
c)   Had O immediately after yoga (i.e. like niacin experiment) to enjoy 0% POIS & especially happiness.
Way forward:
a)   At presently, I shared only the macro level of the solution which I got. If any one of you find reduction is POIS symtoms, and if this theory is apply to all, then I am ready to share full one hour yoga exercise (containing many i.e. loosening exercise, dynamic exercise, pranayama, various types of breathing, yoga posture, relaxation technique). Waiting for your reply.

[ozmoses]

For those of you taking regular (flushing niacin) how many milligrams are you taking at a time and how many times per day? 

I usually take a minimum of 500 and a max of 1000 at a time.  I like the flushing so it doesn't bother me.