[akt1]

Here are The amino acids (swedish):
100g and 30g portions.

Aminosyraprofil per 100 g och per portion 30 g.
L-isoleucin*   5,25 g   1,58 g
L-leucin*         8,39 g           2,52 g
L-lysin          7,06 g     2,12 g
DL-metionin   1,75 g   0,53 g
L-fenylalanin   2,58 g   0,77 g
L-treonin           5,13 g     1,46 g
L-tryptofan   1,45 g   0,38 g
L-valin*   4,87 g   1,46 g
L-histidin   1,26 g   0,38 g
L-alanin   3,85 g   1,16 g
L-arginin   1,88 g   0,56 g
L-asparaginsyra   8,88 g   2,66 g
L-cystein   1,92 g   0,58 g
Glutaminsyra   13,57 g   4,07 g
Glycin   1,30 g   0,39 g
L-prolin   4,28 g   1,28 g
L-serin   3,30 g   0,99 g
L-tyrosin   2,08 g   0,62 g
Total halt protein
-varav BCAA    78,80 g
18,51 g   23,65 g
5,56 g


I took this and niacin before and after o, and i had no pois.
Like 200mg niacin and whey pre o, 100mg The day after plus a wheydrink.
That made me get away with no pois.
Started to feel *#%% pois-bad The day after o, but niacin and whey (or maybe only whey)
Killed that state. Will try to elaborate some more, but i regularly do nofap.
Hope sincerely that it might help someone.
(I take natural whey without artificial sweetener, thus no fenylalanin)


Best regards

[demografx]

Yahoo! general audience publication article about POIS from 2015:

"The Crazy Reason This Man Never Wants To Orgasm"
By Amy Rushlow
https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/the-crazy-reason-this-man-never-wants-to-orgasm-110191674787.html


"This is not something we would wish on our worst enemy." (Photo: Getty Images)

THIS ARTICLE MENTIONS BOTH POIS FORUMS!
demo

[demografx]

<former Mod visiting periodically>


HI acronym [see Acronym's question re NORD's POIS study on previous page]

•The 4th & final report will be out mid-September.

•No fMRI or tVNS study info has been released yet. Probably will not until final publication.

On Aug 29, 2016, at 7:10 AM, Jacqueline at NORD wrote:

Hi Demo,

[The Final POIS Study Public Report #4 -- officially due on September the] 18th is right around the corner so I'll be following up with the PI [Dr Komisaruk] this week to ensure he has the relevant paperwork etc., to submit it, and once passed to MAC for approval get to you ASAP for sharing.

I hope all is well with you.

Kind regards,
Jacqui
NORD

[akt1]

Update

Had a wet dream and got pois (could not sleep, it starts to "creep" in My body).
Took whey and niacin .. And Then i was ok.. Which os a breakthrough for me since whey and niacin
Seems to kill pois -after o-. Never Been able to get rid of it after o before.
I take whey everyday and have experienced a better general well being.
And if i combine niacin and whey daily i almost feel too good.. But maybe
Thats how i should feel - getting enough serotonin?

Have a Nice day
Akt1

[FedUpWithThis]

Hi all, I've had brain fog for a lot of years constantly now. I thought that it would jus be exhaustion because of exercising and then masturbating, but none of my friends had the same symptoms. I've been searching all over the net for brain fog and what causes it, tried to take fish oil as a supplement but I have found out what is the cause of it, although I did suspect it would come from masturbating.

I have found out about POIS a few months ago so I tried see how directly related is masturbation to my extreme exhaustion. Turned up, it happens about 90% percent of the time I get at least one symptom the day after (on the same day, I get bad at socializing and my sight gets slown down).

I have a question, because the matter got worse this month. I used to get brain fog, reduced perception (sight, hearing), very slow reaction time, feeling like I am detached, unable to socialize and a lot of times extreme exhaustion ehich would drag on for a few days up to a week.

Now, I get higher temperature along with the other symptoms (37°C +) and I feel like sh1t (sorry for this), everything hurts me so much, just like if I had a flu and I barely sleep. Oh and I get diarrhea for two days as well. I've had "this" three times in one month, so it's hardly a flu. It's correlated to masturbation, and the symptoms increase with the intensity of orgasm.

I want to know, can POIS give those symptoms? Or am I just unlucky and caught a cold three times in a row?

I am 23 years old now, and had a brain fog for at least ten years (there were a few days in a year that I would feel great during high school and college). I tried abstinence, but sometimes I get to a point where I can't hold it anymore, even though I know how crappy I will feel after... Also there's are wet dreams which I can't help.

I exercise 4 times a week, calisthenics, but I feel like limited because of this.

I am very sad and depressed most of the time because of constant exhaustion and brain foggyness. There are only a few days each year that I feel on point, motivated and energetic... It's killing me knowing how I can't reach my potential. I am afraid of work now.
 

[Titus1]

Hello,

its my first post here.

Does actually somebody know what causes POIS??

I want to give all sufferers an advice! Try NAET Dr. Namudripad Allergy Elimination Technique. It works!! You will not have any problems after ejaculation with this therapie.

Never give up!

Kind regards!

[DAZ]

This is My first post
I am 24 and I have been dealing with POIS for about 10 years or so (since i first noticed it)

I am using BIOGLAN Supergreens powder
I am using centrum multivitamin
I am also using Niacin B3
to try and deal with my POIS

I think they have all helped to a certain degree and i would at least recommend that if you are struggling you should buy niacin because there are quite a few people that have said they have experienced positive results from using it

check out link 1 in the attachment

the link above is from the pois center
it is a compilation of various niacin user feedbacks. Basically different people talking about their experience with niacin for POIS
you can also find link 1 by simply typing "niacin POIS" into google it should be the first link that comes up from poiscenter

I bought my niacin from SOLGAR and it is the 500MG niacin so you will experience flush when you take it
but flush is simply a result of increased blood flow it is nothing to be worried about in fact i like it.

p.s. there are two types of niacin
      you want the one with nicotinic acid in it which causes flush not the other no flush niacin
  please check out link 2 in the attachment for more information on the two types of niacin::::::

you can find link 2 by simply typing into google "Don't be fooled by no-flush niacin" it should be the first link by chealth.canoe

p.s. I would have pasted the URL of the web pages instead of the attachment but the site doesnt seem to allow me post external links
   

Finding a site like this really made a big difference for me because you dont feel so alone
I hope this information helps somebody the way this forum helped me


Much Love

 

[demografx]

When an Orgasm Can Destroy Your Life

For men with the rare disorder Post-Orgasmic Illness Syndrome, orgasms can lead to days of physical and psychological misery





https://melmagazine.com/these-guys-will-do-anything-to-avoid-coming-279fc4eb1a8b?source=linkShare-898c3474bb43-1478806423



The writer interviewed forum POISers and did his homework on POIS studies.

[demografx]

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/lifestyle/sex-and-relationship/111016/this-condition-can-make-orgasms-the-worst-experience-for-men.html

[akt1]

Hi you guys,

Still wondering here if amino acids may have something to do with pois.. or rather, the deficiencey of amino acids.

Amino acids aid in recovery, and have calming qualities for the body.
I feel a lot better if i take whey protein after working out, in fact i take it every day, and i feel calmer in general. especially in combination
with a vitamin b complex.
Maybe you get anxiety and adrenal fatigue from amino acids deficiency.. making the body not able to deal with o´s?

Here is a discussion where people have managed to cure their general anxiety with magneisum , vitamin bs and an amino acid complex:
Google "Amino Acids and Magnesium cured my Anxiety"

Best regards
akt1

[acronym]

I'd be surprised if its a deficiency of amino acids. Quite a few of us do has digestive issues though. My doctor did a urine test looking for amino acid deficiencies since I had a lot of trouble putting on weight and my amino acid profile came out fine...disappointingly, though that does not mean my enzymes are using them properly. I do feel a bit better on tyrosine during the day and tryptophan at night, but I dont think the cause of pois, but help with dopamine & serotonin.

I have food intolerances  so cant take whey, nor egg protein, nor pea protein. I take hemp protein, and eat fish chicken beef & liver. The fact you feel better taking protein after working out, I'm sure lots of gym goers could say the same as it helps with recovery. Someone low in serotonin would get anxiety (not the only cause) so taking in extra amino acids could help with that, especially trytophan. Trytophan does get partially blocked by some of the large amino acids, so a separate supplement taken away from a meal would result in higher levels than say a roast chicken dinner. Trytophan also converts to Niacin in the body by an anzyme.  The problem for some of us may be insufficient key enzymes and not lack of protein.

Magnesium definitely helps me with anxiety and is a worthwhile supplement for poisers. Are we deficient in magnesium or just need more due to pios ramping up anxiety. I suspect its the later and is just treating a symptom rather than a key cause for pois, given that most of the population is supposed to be not getting enough Mg in their diet.

[John21 (OP)]

Update: I had another NE a few weeks ago and had POIS symptoms again, to me I imagine it to be like a pressure increase somewhere in the body. Perhaps like if cerebrospinal fluid pressure is increased, or if something is swollen in the groin area putting pressure on a nerve. So my previously mentioned improvement from Elderberry is now dubious.

I should mention something that helps my sleep. I take turmeric capsules and B12 before bed each night and this seems to help my general mental health. But I have found that taking dandelion before bed will allow me to sleep longer through the night. Dandelion is a diuretic and it seems like reducing body water might lessen pressure somewhere in the body. I am now taking it in the morning and at night (about 1/2ml - about 15 -20 drops of tincture).

[acronym]

I should mention something that helps my sleep. I take turmeric capsules and B12 before bed each night and this seems to help my general mental health. But I have found that taking dandelion before bed will allow me to sleep longer through the night. Dandelion is a diuretic and it seems like reducing body water might lessen pressure somewhere in the body. I am now taking it in the morning and at night (about 1/2ml - about 15 -20 drops of tincture).

Interesting that B12 helps you with sleep as its generally known as an energiser supplement. Its an important vitamin for mental health. Some people need to take the methylated sublingual form. Liver is a good source of B12 and that maybe one of the reasons I feel good after eating a meal with it. Dandelion is a diuretic but also known as a blood cleanser tonic herb. I actually feel better with licorice extract which has the opposite effect  - fluid retention at higher doses. A great herb for sleep is hops, but it also has estrogenic properties. If you have not tried melatonin tabs definitely give them a go, and valerian is a good sleep herb. 'Deep' sleep definitely helps with pois recovery

[John21 (OP)]

Acronym, B12 helps my overall mental health but I don't think it has any effect on my sleep. I just happen to take it with my turmeric which I like to take before bed as it seems to help with sleep a little. But I definitely noticed an improvement of duration of sleep with dandelion.

[NakedDoc]

I am a 24 year old finalist medical student and have been struggling with "POIS" or "PEIS" (Post Ejaculation Illness Syndrome) since I was 17 i.e the first time I masturbated.
I am a very sharp minded person and used to be top of my class since Primary school.
I experienced my first wet dream the first year of my Secondary school and started masturbating in my third year.
I remember the first time I masturbated, I was to sit for an end of term exam the following day. I greatly enjoyed the pleasure I got from masturbating but I didn't know what was going to follow 1-2 hours later.
I felt confused, heavy headed, cloud minded at first, then fatigue and burning eyes creeped in, I thought it was a nornal experience so I just took a nap and thought I would be back to my normal energy when I woke up, but I was shoked to find myself in the same state as before.
I couldn't retain whatever I read that day for my exam, I panicked.
The next day (during the exam) I was confused, I used to be a beast in mathematics but calculations were not flowing the way they used to be. I just felt like I wanted to sleep in the exam room. I eventually emerged the fourth person in class instead of the usual first position.
It took me about a month to discover that ejaculation was the cause of  my study misery.
I remember when used to search on why masturbation impaired memory but all I found was that too much masturbation had a toll on concentration for everyone, so I thought everyone experienced it.
I had to schedule my ejaculations only for Fridays or Saturdays evenings as I didn't have to go to school the following day which is usually the worst with symptoms. I did it in the evenings as my entire day would be ruined if I did it during the day.
I could not restrict nocturnal emissions though. My experience with nocturnal emissions was that I still had POIS but it's milder and the brain fog usually takes about a day to fully resolve as opposed to post masturbation which usually would take about 5-7 days.
I eventually completed my secondary school with high grades after strictly scheduling my ejaculations and was lucky to join the medical school. I have an understanding sexual partner, I don't experience any erectile dysfunction or premature ejaculation and I have a good intravaginal ejaculation latency time. We schedule our sex episodes only at times when there was a little study burden and not when exams are around the corner.
I know the time will come when she might be fed up as we only do "it" when I want.
I am not a fan of medications as no drugs are "safe". Each and every drug has it's own cluster of side effects.
I personally support the autoimmune hypothesis, where autoantibodies against seminal or prostatic fluid cross react with self antigens in our cells, the likes of Acute Rheumatic Fever or SLE.
An oral corticosteroid, dexamethasone seems to be doing the job for me, just by reducing the severity and duration of the symptoms but not fully relieving them immediately.
I'm sorry for such a long post, I'm glad to have found this forum and would be happy to help every one suffering from this syndrome.

[B_Jim]

Welcome new Poisers !

[demografx]

https://rarediseases.info.nih.gov/diseases/10809/postorgasmic-illness-syndrome







http://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/articles/are-you-suffering-from-post-orgasmic-illness-syndrome-w448239

[demografx]

Welcome new Poisers !

Thank you, B_Jim!

[Kingkong]

I am a 24 year old finalist medical student and have been struggling with "POIS" or "PEIS" (Post Ejaculation Illness Syndrome) since I was 17 i.e the first time I masturbated.
I am a very sharp minded person and used to be top of my class since Primary school.
I experienced my first wet dream the first year of my Secondary school and started masturbating in my third year.
I remember the first time I masturbated, I was to sit for an end of term exam the following day. I greatly enjoyed the pleasure I got from masturbating but I didn't know what was going to follow 1-2 hours later.
I felt confused, heavy headed, cloud minded at first, then fatigue and burning eyes creeped in, I thought it was a nornal experience so I just took a nap and thought I would be back to my normal energy when I woke up, but I was shoked to find myself in the same state as before.
I couldn't retain whatever I read that day for my exam, I panicked.
The next day (during the exam) I was confused, I used to be a beast in mathematics but calculations were not flowing the way they used to be. I just felt like I wanted to sleep in the exam room. I eventually emerged the fourth person in class instead of the usual first position.
It took me about a month to discover that ejaculation was the cause of  my study misery.
I remember when used to search on why masturbation impaired memory but all I found was that too much masturbation had a toll on concentration for everyone, so I thought everyone experienced it.
I had to schedule my ejaculations only for Fridays or Saturdays evenings as I didn't have to go to school the following day which is usually the worst with symptoms. I did it in the evenings as my entire day would be ruined if I did it during the day.
I could not restrict nocturnal emissions though. My experience with nocturnal emissions was that I still had POIS but it's milder and the brain fog usually takes about a day to fully resolve as opposed to post masturbation which usually would take about 5-7 days.
I eventually completed my secondary school with high grades after strictly scheduling my ejaculations and was lucky to join the medical school. I have an understanding sexual partner, I don't experience any erectile dysfunction or premature ejaculation and I have a good intravaginal ejaculation latency time. We schedule our sex episodes only at times when there was a little study burden and not when exams are around the corner.
I know the time will come when she might be fed up as we only do "it" when I want.
I am not a fan of medications as no drugs are "safe". Each and every drug has it's own cluster of side effects.
I personally support the autoimmune hypothesis, where autoantibodies against seminal or prostatic fluid cross react with self antigens
An oral corticosteroid, dexamethasone seems to be

Hi NakedDoc , what is the dosage of the dexamethasone that you are taking? And when are you taking it? Before or after O?

[Jake81]

Thanks for your post Adolfin.  I've always thought this could be the result of candida or some other type of infection (possibly mold).  Please keep us updated on your results.