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What is neuroholographic memory?

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What is neuroholographic memory?
« on: 19/04/2017 10:23:35 »
Is discrete informations in the brain transcoded using associative holographic input from RNA-guided biophotonic waveguides?

What do you think?
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Re: What is holographic memory?
« Reply #1 on: 13/05/2017 18:32:21 »
Neuroholographic hypercomputation: Imagination is more important than knowledge!  ;)

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Re: What is holographic memory?
« Reply #2 on: 13/05/2017 18:34:14 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 13/05/2017 18:32:21
Neuroholographic hypercomputation: Imagination is more important than knowledge!  ;)


If that's true, then I don't need to know it.
If, on the other hand, it is not true, then I don't need to know it.
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Re: What is holographic memory?
« Reply #3 on: 13/05/2017 18:41:13 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 13/05/2017 18:34:14
If that's true, then I don't need to know it.
If, on the other hand, it is not true, then I don't need to know it.

That's why you must exercise your imagination once in a while...

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Re: What is holographic memory?
« Reply #4 on: 06/08/2017 10:56:36 »
Here is the primary research paper for the neuroholographic model of explicit memory formation: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/285705600_Dreams_and_neuroholography_An_interdisciplinary_Interpretation_of_development_of_homeotherm_state_in_evolution

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Re: What is holographic memory?
« Reply #5 on: 06/08/2017 12:11:10 »
The majority chemical component of the brain and body is water. If we were to remove the water, nothing will work. If we replace water with any other solvent, again nothing works right down to enzymes and the DNA. Water is a co-partner with the organics of life and has a hand in all things due to its unique properties. Water would be the most logical medium for holographic memory, if such a thing existed.

Water is the co-partner component that everything has in common. This creates a simple common component matrix regardless of organic complexity. Water can form extended structures in liquid water via hydrogen bonding and can transfer information through hydrogen bonding vibrations between neighbors, as well as with mobile hydrogen protons. The mobile hydrogen protons  have the highest diffusion speed of any physical material in water. Sodium and potassium ions, for examples are about 10 times slower in water compared the hydrogen proton. While the vibrations in hydrogen bonding is more about photons which is faster still.

As an analogy for the mechanism, say you placed a salt tablet in a beaker of water. The salt tablet will absorb water, dissolve and then become distributed throughout the beaker of water driven by diffusion; entropy and enthalpy. The local perturbation by the salt tablet will become distributed through the beaker in 4-D time profile. The organic matrix of the brain and neurons does not dissolve isn water. However, changes in structures due to memory create changes in the local water potential. This needs to distribute to balance the free energy in the bulk water.

As an analogy say we placed a few ice cubes and a few hot balls of ceramic in a beaker of water. Before we begin we do an energy balance so there will be a zero change in beaker temperature, since the heat capacity of the cold ice and hot ceramic are designed to offset.

If we maintain the ice and ceramic balls in restricted places, the cold and hot induction will create local non-equilibrium, impacting the local and adjacent hydrogen bonding. This will set up convection, to redistribute the heat throughput the beaker.

If we begin another test, now with tertiary inert glass balls, sitting in the water, that begin in equilibrium with the water, these will undergo dynamic changes in equilibrium, as the hot and cold sources induce changes in the water. The result is we can distribute the original thermal memory, into the dynamic story of the glass balls.
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Re: What is holographic memory?
« Reply #6 on: 06/08/2017 12:20:19 »
Quote from: puppypower on 06/08/2017 12:11:10
The majority chemical component of the brain and body is water. If we were to remove the water, nothing will work. If we replace water with any other solvent, again nothing works right down to enzymes and the DNA. Water has a co-partner hand in all things due to its unique properties. Water would be the most logical medium for holographic memory if such a thing existed. .

The collective behavior of water molecules in microtubules may influence biophotonic emissions:
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A theoretical model for the description of a collective behavior of water molecules as an assembly of two-level quantum biological system is proposed. In this model, Micro- Tubules are considered as quantum cavities. Their role is to provide a single mode of biophoton field, in such a way that water molecules to be considered not as independent individuals, but rather as whole, in this manner water molecules are embedded in and interacting with a common radiation field. In the model proposed, collective behavior of water molecules is characterized by coherent water states analogous to Bloch states, whose main feature is to trap biophotons in a collective fashion. Finally some applications to electroencephalography are considered.
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-981-287-736-9_112

I believe coherent water states in tubulin heterodimer may facilitate synchronized gamma-band oscillations and neuroholographic biophotons emissions in the visible spectrum.
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Re: What is holographic memory?
« Reply #7 on: 06/08/2017 14:48:25 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 06/08/2017 10:56:36
Here is the primary research paper for the neuroholographic model of explicit memory formation: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/285705600_Dreams_and_neuroholography_An_interdisciplinary_Interpretation_of_development_of_homeotherm_state_in_evolution


And it goes hopelessly wrong  when he says
" It follows from the foregoing that electrical signals of the brain processes can generate visible pictures of dreams if and only if electrical signals are converted to weak, EMWs of the visible range (biophotons) in the brain.  "

That's only the 3rd sentence of tehtext ad he's already lost the plot.
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Re: What is holographic memory?
« Reply #8 on: 06/08/2017 17:35:04 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 06/08/2017 14:48:25
That's only the 3rd sentence of tehtext ad he's already lost the plot.

It is well established that neurons can emits photons: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27819310

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Re: What is holographic memory?
« Reply #9 on: 06/08/2017 18:19:19 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 06/08/2017 17:35:04
It is well established that neurons can emits photons: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27819310
If light is used to communicate in the brain, it won't travel very far before it is absorbed, (unless the person is pumpkin positive  :) ).
Light can't be essential to neurological functioning, as people can speak, see, hear & move when their brain is exposed to light-levels way above biophotons during awake brain surgery ...
 
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Re: What is holographic memory?
« Reply #10 on: 06/08/2017 18:40:24 »
Quote from: RD on 06/08/2017 18:19:19
If light is used to communicate in the brain, it won't travel very far before it is absorbed, (unless the person is pumpkin positive  :) ).

Yes. Biophotons are mostly used for cell-to-cell communication and coherent energy transfer. Within neurons, they serve as optical communication channels to produce visible informations (conscious experience) in the prefrontal cortex.
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Re: What is holographic memory?
« Reply #11 on: 06/08/2017 19:36:57 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 06/08/2017 17:35:04
Quote from: Bored chemist on 06/08/2017 14:48:25
That's only the 3rd sentence of tehtext ad he's already lost the plot.

It is well established that neurons can emits photons: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27819310


Two things.
First- the problem I raised with the article you cited is a fault in logic (there may also be faults in accuracy).
Secondly, it's clear that anything that's warmer than absolute zero  emits photons.
But there's no mechanism in the body for intercepting and using visible photons apart from in the eyes.

People emit farts, but it's not a signalling system.
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Re: What is holographic memory?
« Reply #12 on: 06/08/2017 20:04:50 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 06/08/2017 19:36:57
But there's no mechanism in the body for intercepting and using visible photons apart from in the eyes.

Wrong. Mitochondrial biophotonic emissions are implicated in microtubules dynamics. See: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21425483
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Re: What is holographic memory?
« Reply #13 on: 06/08/2017 22:40:39 »
Quote from: tkadm30
gamma-band oscillations
Which band is labelled "gamma"?

It can't be gamma rays, as these have far too much energy to be generated by organic biological processes.
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Re: What is holographic memory?
« Reply #14 on: 07/08/2017 09:27:27 »
Quote from: evan_au on 06/08/2017 22:40:39
Which band is labelled "gamma"?

It can't be gamma rays, as these have far too much energy to be generated by organic biological processes.

Don't confuse gamma rays with gamme wave activity! ;)

See : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_wave
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« Reply #15 on: 07/08/2017 21:07:49 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 06/08/2017 18:40:24
Yes. Biophotons are mostly used for cell-to-cell communication and coherent energy transfer. Within neurons, they serve as optical communication channels to produce visible informations (consciousness) in the frontal cortex.
Bio-photons are of such a low intensity that they are not visible to the unaided eye.
If a computer which used light at bio-photon levels to operate was exposed to daylight, it would be overloaded: it would crash.
That people can speak & play the banjo during craniotomy, when their brain is exposed to bright light, tells you the brain does not rely on photons to work.
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Re: What is holographic memory?
« Reply #16 on: 07/08/2017 21:21:08 »
Quote from: RD on 07/08/2017 21:07:49
That people can speak & think & move during craniotomy, when their brain is exposed to bright light, tells you the brain does not rely on photons to work.

Citation needed.
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« Reply #17 on: 07/08/2017 21:25:55 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 07/08/2017 21:21:08
Quote from: RD on 07/08/2017 21:07:49
That people can speak & think & move during craniotomy, when their brain is exposed to bright light, tells you the brain does not rely on photons to work.
Citation needed.
A video is even better than a citation ...

https://youtu.be/rqWBDHRvHrQ?t=2m7s

Plenty more "awake brain surgery" on YouTube ... https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=awake+brain+surgery
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« Reply #18 on: 07/08/2017 22:30:31 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 07/08/2017 21:21:08
Quote from: RD on 07/08/2017 21:07:49
That people can speak & think & move during craniotomy, when their brain is exposed to bright light, tells you the brain does not rely on photons to work.

Citation needed.
Why?
You never bother.
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Re: What is holographic memory?
« Reply #19 on: 09/08/2017 22:58:08 »
I don't doubt the existence of superluminal biophotons inside microtubules. I suggest neurons may exchange coherent holographic informations (synchronized gamma-band oscillations) using biophotonic waveguide emissions in tubulin heterodimer. Furthermore I don't think photons entering the skull should interfere with any coherent energy transfer or cell-to-cell signaling mecanism inside microtubules.

See:

1. https://www.nature.com/articles/srep36508

2. "Possible Existence of Superluminal Photons Inside Microtubules and the Resulting Explanation for Brain Mechanism"  (doi: 10.11648/j.ajop.20150305.11)

3. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25232047
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