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What is neuroholographic memory?

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Re: What is holographic memory?
« Reply #20 on: 09/08/2017 23:49:32 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 09/08/2017 22:58:08
I don't doubt the existence of superluminal biophotons inside microtubules.
You should doubt the existence of anything which is allegedly "superluminal".

Your #2 source is not a reputable science-journal : it amounts to vanity-publishing, see ...
http://flakyj.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/science-publishing-group-sciencepg.html
https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/sciencepublishinggroup.com
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Re: What is holographic memory?
« Reply #21 on: 10/08/2017 18:31:36 »
Quote from: RD on 09/08/2017 23:49:32
Your #2 source is not a reputable science-journal : it amounts to vanity-publishing
That's a irrelevant argument. You can check on researchgate.net and find the same study. You can also look here: http://www.isaacpub.org/ShowEditorialBoard.aspx?ids=4&ebid=42

I guess you think that superluminal biophotons do not exists inside microtubules, but that is just outdated informations.

If you want to dive into the maths of superluminal biophotons, see this:
http://www.mdpi.com/2078-2489/3/3/344/htm#2EvanescentSuperluminalPhotonsintheMicrotubule
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Re: What is neuroholographic memory?
« Reply #22 on: 23/01/2018 09:22:27 »
updated the title to help people understand what is neuroholographic memory first. :)
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Re: What is neuroholographic memory?
« Reply #23 on: 25/01/2018 10:38:50 »
Optical control of dopamine transcription

What exactly are RNA-guided biophotonic waveguides? Can we assume dopamine neurotransmission is largely influenced by RNA transcription and optical control of neuroholographic (conscious) experience?   
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Re: What is neuroholographic memory?
« Reply #24 on: 25/01/2018 20:32:12 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 23/01/2018 09:22:27
updated the title to help people understand what is neuroholographic memory first. :)
The problem with this thread was your content, not your title.
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Re: What is neuroholographic memory?
« Reply #25 on: 25/01/2018 22:40:25 »
I have checked my calendar and found that it must be wrong because it says Jan 25 not April 1
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Re: What is neuroholographic memory?
« Reply #26 on: 26/01/2018 09:32:53 »
Ignorance is no excuse to ridiculize the truth..
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Re: What is neuroholographic memory?
« Reply #27 on: 26/01/2018 17:29:07 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 26/01/2018 09:32:53
Ignorance is no excuse to ridiculize the truth..

What truth is there in the claim that photons in the brain move faster than light? It definitely isn't supported by peer-reviewed, repeated experimentation. If it was, then we would know that superluminal travel and communication is possible and it would be a huge news story. Since no such physics-shattering discovery has been made, we can safely say that your claim of superlumnal biophotons is supported by weak evidence at the very most.
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Re: What is neuroholographic memory?
« Reply #28 on: 26/01/2018 18:37:28 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 26/01/2018 09:32:53
Ignorance is no excuse to ridiculize the truth..

That's true, but irrelevant.
You have also made it slightly ridiculous bu not knowing that the verb is "ridicule".
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Re: What is neuroholographic memory?
« Reply #29 on: 27/01/2018 09:45:14 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 26/01/2018 17:29:07
Quote from: tkadm30 on 26/01/2018 09:32:53
Ignorance is no excuse to ridiculize the truth..

What truth is there in the claim that photons in the brain move faster than light? It definitely isn't supported by peer-reviewed, repeated experimentation. If it was, then we would know that superluminal travel and communication is possible and it would be a huge news story. Since no such physics-shattering discovery has been made, we can safely say that your claim of superlumnal biophotons is supported by weak evidence at the very most.

The speed of human consciousness is evidence of FTL neuroholographic information processing: Superluminal biophotonic waveguides in myelinated axons may control mRNA transcription of neuronal cells.
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Re: What is neuroholographic memory?
« Reply #30 on: 27/01/2018 10:40:26 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 27/01/2018 09:45:14
Quote from: Kryptid on 26/01/2018 17:29:07
Quote from: tkadm30 on 26/01/2018 09:32:53
Ignorance is no excuse to ridiculize the truth..

What truth is there in the claim that photons in the brain move faster than light? It definitely isn't supported by peer-reviewed, repeated experimentation. If it was, then we would know that superluminal travel and communication is possible and it would be a huge news story. Since no such physics-shattering discovery has been made, we can safely say that your claim of superlumnal biophotons is supported by weak evidence at the very most.

The speed of human consciousness is evidence of FTL neuroholographic information processing: Superluminal biophotonic waveguides in myelinated axons may control mRNA transcription of neuronal cells.


"The speed of human consciousness" has never been defined, never mind measured.
So it's not really evidence of anything, and you are just making stuff up.
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Re: What is neuroholographic memory?
« Reply #31 on: 27/01/2018 16:28:57 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 27/01/2018 09:45:14
The speed of human consciousness is evidence of FTL neuroholographic information processing: Superluminal biophotonic waveguides in myelinated axons may control mRNA transcription of neuronal cells.

Since when was the speed of human consciousness ever measured, let alone found to be faster than light (if it even makes sense to say that consciousness has a "speed")?
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Re: What is neuroholographic memory?
« Reply #32 on: 28/01/2018 09:44:01 »
In my opinion human consciousness is both a particle and a wave. There's also currently no way to quantify the speed of consciousness because we don't know how the brain may transcode free energy into neuroholographic pathways.

 
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Re: What is neuroholographic memory?
« Reply #33 on: 28/01/2018 14:54:34 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 28/01/2018 09:44:01
There's also currently no way to quantify the speed of consciousness

Then how can you possibly conclude that anything involved with consciousness is moving faster than light? Or that consciousness has a speed at all?
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Re: What is neuroholographic memory?
« Reply #34 on: 28/01/2018 17:55:02 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 28/01/2018 09:44:01
we don't know how the brain may transcode free energy into neuroholographic pathways.

Word salad.
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Re: What is neuroholographic memory?
« Reply #35 on: 29/01/2018 10:07:41 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 28/01/2018 14:54:34
Quote from: tkadm30 on 28/01/2018 09:44:01
There's also currently no way to quantify the speed of consciousness

Then how can you possibly conclude that anything involved with consciousness is moving faster than light? Or that consciousness has a speed at all?

Because (bio)photons in the brain are both a particle and wave; They travel at the speed of light since their mass is equal to 0.


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The key is that a photon is not a traditional particle. Rather it is a quantum object, which is part wave, and part particle. When a photon is being created, it is acting mostly like a wave, and waves have no problem going a certain speed from the moment they are created. For instance, bob your hand up and down against a pond's still surface and you will create water waves that ripple away from your hand. The water waves do not start out motionless and then slowly pick up speed as they travel away. The water waves are already traveling at their nominal speed the moment you start creating them. That is how waves behave.

See: http://wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/2014/06/26/how-does-a-photon-accelerate-to-light-speed-so-quickly/

 
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Re: What is neuroholographic memory?
« Reply #36 on: 29/01/2018 10:34:29 »
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Biophotons are mostly used for cell-to-cell communication and coherent energy transfer...synchronized gamma-band oscillations.
This is starting to make some sense...

Gamma waves in the brain are around 40Hz; other brain wave patterns are in the range 0.1Hz - 25Hz.
These were detected by electro-encephalograms (EEG) in the 1960s.

The typical human brain has around 100 billion brain cells, so any signals picked up by electrodes on the scalp will be the aggregate behavior of a billion or more neurones - any patterns you pick up out of that random noise will be synchronised behavior across billions of cells - "coherent" is not a bad word for that.

That such a brain wave pattern might occur during consciousness is contentious; some authors also claim that they are also present during sleep, when you are not conscious.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_wave

These large-scale EEG patterns have been associated with certain states of consciousness (eg slow-wave sleep), but we really do not know what they do in the brain. The best we can say is that if you sleep-deprive someone, it goes really badly for them.

Where is starts to come unstuck is the assertion that this behavior is communicated by photons.
- A 40Hz photon has a wavelength of around 7,500 km. To detect such a photon with any efficiency, you need an antenna which is about half a wavelength, or about the width of Europe, not a couple of centimeters like the neurons in your brain.
- IMHO, a much more likely explanation is that they are periodic cycles of activity conveyed by activity at synapses. Neurones in the brain can fire a few hundred times per second. So periodic cycles of activity could easily be derived by signals passing through 50 or so neurones.

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Within neurons, they serve as optical communication channels to produce visible informations (conscious experience) in the prefrontal cortex.
I agree that the optic nerve could be considered an "optical communication channel".
But this does not mean that it transmits photons like an optical fiber.

In fact, the retina does an incredible job of compressing the the optical image coming into your eyeball into a signal that can be carried as electrical spikes along the optic nerve.

However, this visual information is carried to the cerebral cortex (in the back of the brain), not the prefrontal cortex (in the front of the brain). If your visual cortex is damaged, then the prefrontal cortex does not experience conscious vision.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_cortex
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Re: What is neuroholographic memory?
« Reply #37 on: 29/01/2018 21:19:06 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 29/01/2018 10:07:41
Because (bio)photons in the brain are both a particle and wave; They travel at the speed of light since their mass is equal to 0.

Now you are contradicting yourself. You said earlier that they move faster than light, and now you say that they move at the speed of light. Which is it?
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Re: What is neuroholographic memory?
« Reply #38 on: 30/01/2018 09:04:39 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 29/01/2018 21:19:06
Now you are contradicting yourself. You said earlier that they move faster than light, and now you say that they move at the speed of light. Which is it?

Sorry @Kryptid for the confusion. My last comment is definitely my current line of thoughts, however.
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