[Dave Lev]

As the big bang can't clearly cover the infinite universe in a
SINGE bang,

It can, but you don't understand it. I don't know if that's a fundamental problem, or just because you refuse to pay attention.

Please go ahead and set the explanation how a single bang can cover the entire infinite universe.
Please remember:
1. The infinite universe was there long before the last bang that took place 13.8 by ago
2. There is no way to bring new energy from outside of that infinite universe.
3. In order to set a bang there is a need to crunch back the matter/energy to singularity -

You forget the context above, which is about a cyclic model where all the universe crunches back down to a singularity again, at which point it has the same energy as it started since it has nowhere else to go. Explaining entropy on the other hand isn't so easy.

So please go ahead
If needed, you can band the law of physics without getting warning or any sort of penelty

Good luck.

[Kryptid]

It looks like Dave is turning this into a duplicate topic of his Big Bang threads. Would that count as derailment here?

[Bored chemist]

Please remember:
1. The infinite universe was there long before the last bang that took place 13.8 by ago
2. There is no way to bring new energy from outside of that infinite universe.
3. In order to set a bang there is a need to crunch back the matter/energy to singularity -

I don't plan to "remember" 3 things you made up.

[Bored chemist]

Would that count as derailment here?

Yes.

[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

Chaos; I wake up and what do I find? Chaos, lol. I say this lightheartedly, and in fact I enjoyed catching up to date.


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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

Let me submit that chaos has always existed here and there, now and then, but it is always a subset of "infinite and eternal", meaning chaos is a temporary condition. Places in the universe can go from orderly to chaotic, and from chaotic to orderly, but I think the mean position is "orderly, waiting for chaos", .


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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

,,, but I think the mean position is "orderly, waiting for chaos", .
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Wait long enough, and chaos will come along. It may be Earth changes, or bad weather, or large scale events that disrupt the status quo. However, I believe that the universe always provides habital environments, and that life can be repositioned to new habitats, or can even be generated from inert elements, given the right combinations of circumstances.


https://www.nature.com/subjects/origin-of-life


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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

I'm viewing this YouTube video again to refresh my memory on what my thinking was in early 2015 ...


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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

After a review of my thinking to date, my conclusion is
 that it is a reality that the universe has always existed and has always been infinite. ( that was my hypothesis before I started the review, lol.)


I think that the infinite and eternal existence of matter and energy is a premise that I would like to consider on this particular thread; i.e. has all the matter and energy in the infinite and eternal universe always existed.

Further, on this thread, it will be appropriate to say that the nature of the one and only universe can logically be boiled down to the three infinities of space, time, and energy; the universe is infinite in space and thus it has an infinite expanse, it has always existed, and everything physical can be reduced to space and energy. Therefore, there is only one universe, it is infinite, which means there is no "outside of it", and it is eternal.


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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

However, the fact that the universe is so large, and so old, means that there could be intelligent life forms that thrived so far away and so long ago that remnants of their existence could show up in our vicinity at any time from any direction.


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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

Across an infinity of space and over all time, how many instances could there have been, and/or will there come to be, where an intelligent life form contemplates the existence of infinite intelligences having been in existence at all times, here and there across the universe?

I submit that the answer to that question is ... an infinite number.


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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

One key fact in all of that is that intelligent individuals communicate, communities form, and conflicts and accords occur. Survival is a natural instinct, and I think that the survival instinct and evolving intelligence work together to enable adaptation. Survival of the fittest must play a deciding role in the distribution of scarce resources.


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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

Think how advanced the civilization in which the Antikythera Mechanism was built must have been!


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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

The Antikythera mechanism is thought to date back to before 10,000 BC, and that has changed my perspective on what "old" means, lol. It may certainly be old in terms of civilized history on Earth, but compared to the infinities of space, time, and energy, a reference to "old" kind of makes any finite duration of time seem short. One might conclude that you can't quantify eternity, or any infinity, but instead must resort to the frequent use of "forever" when looking for a limit to the distant past.


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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

Humans will leave evidence of our existence that might well outlast the period of Humanity here on Earth. That even includes the little patch of the greater universe where some of our remnants may wander as time passes. Since I don't think our life form will last forever, for a myriad of reasons, I am relying on the nature of deep space to preserve that evidence, allowing it to be found well out into the future and well out into space.

Not only that, but humans are being vigilant of outer space, and there is some possibility that we will make discoveries that will point to other intelligent life forms, present or past. Electromagnetic signals from space that would reveal intelligent sources might very well be detected within my short remainder of years; Shrug.


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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

Would you mind posting a few words from your thoughts about how unique life is in the universe, given an infinity of time and space. Needed as an indication of the thinking of others as I proceed to rant about my own thinking out here in the "new theories" section.


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[Halc]

Would you mind posting a few words from your thoughts

For the most part, you seem to have gotten completely off track. None of your recent posts have been about multiple bangs or related theory. To be honest, I have little idea what you're currently proposing. You're just blogging random and mostly unrelated thoughts.

about how unique life is in the universe, given an infinity of time and space.

If life is of any probability greater than zero for any given star system, then given unlimited star systems, there must be life on an unlimited number of stars. Any other possibility is mathematically inconsistent.
This assumes infinite space (and thus infinite star systems), but not infinite time, since any given type of life is only good for a finite region of time: Too soon and there's too much violence and not time to develop stable life. Too late and entropy takes over and there's no energy left to support life. As it is, life has been on Earth about 4-5 billion years and all but the simplest life will be gone here in another billion. The planet will not support eukaryotic life soon, and that includes anything multicellular.

[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

For the most part, you seem to have gotten completely off track. None of your recent posts have been about multiple bangs or related theory. To be honest, I have little idea what you're currently proposing. You're just blogging random and mostly unrelated thoughts.

Getting back on track, I'm going with the idea that there is only one universe, and Big Bang type events occur now and then, here and there, within that one infinite and eternal universe, meaning there are multiple Big Bang events within the universe.



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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

OK, but why post something like that? It has been explained many times how this contradicts all known laws of physics. Any concentration of mass in one place like a new bang in existing space would be an amazing amount of mass in a tiny space, when it's Schwarzschild radius is far larger. The mass would vanish in an instant into its own temporal singularity. The universe would have nothing but a bunch of black holes in it.

Your name off to the left says "Science enthusiast" but 'going with' something blatantly self contradictory like that is science denialism, not science enthusiasm. Science is about learning, not about blind naive assertions.

I'm hypothesizing that "big bangs" are not uncommon events in an infinite universe that is filled with matter and energy across its infinite expanse. Have you contemplated that kind of universe, or do you stop at Standard Theory and generally accepted science? It is the "as yet" unknowns that catch my interest.


Contemplating "infinity" is a grand pastime in itself, and the grand nature of the "as yet unknowns of the universe" make it hard to accept the consensus view while major questions remain open.


And note that this thread and these posts are in the sub-forum "on the lighter side", and are not intended to be hard science.


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[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

I'm not a science professional in any respect, and I don't know enough about science to do more that speculate as we discuss these topics. I post as a pass time because of my layman level interest but I don't have any credentials and am not very well studied in all of this. I agree that I am wrong often and I don't expect my posts to be taken as the gospel. Is this thread in this forum putting me in jeopardy with management?


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