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Re: Everything is Infinite - Can you please promote to other scientists?
« Reply #20 on: 01/07/2017 12:22:26 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 01/07/2017 11:21:47
Quote from: allyoop1234 on 01/07/2017 10:44:53
Quote from: Bored chemist on 30/06/2017 18:41:49
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Please read, be open-minded and give me a steer on where you think it should go.
It should go in the trash can.

Get back in your box ugly!...Noone wants to hear from a Boring rude chemist!..
You may not have noticed yet, but nobody wants to hear from someone who strings a lot of nonsense together, and then tries to pass it off as "proof" of something which is plainly false.

That's why your efforts here have been unsuccessful, and will continue to be so.
This is a "Forum" ! .... Do you know what a Forum is ? .....It's for discussions you Ugly Monkey.....They're supposed to have differing opinions......Who are you, mother goose?.....The nice people posting are all grown up.....they can just sign off if they're not interested in it............"That's why your efforts..." .....I don't know what you're reading. My efforts have been very successful.....I'm getting to talk to a number of great people which is what i was looking for......Look, no need to throw your toys out of the pram, just go to a thread you do like!
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Re: Everything is Infinite - Can you please promote to other scientists?
« Reply #21 on: 01/07/2017 13:28:28 »
Quote from: allyoop1234 on 01/07/2017 12:22:26
Quote from: Bored chemist on 01/07/2017 11:21:47
Quote from: allyoop1234 on 01/07/2017 10:44:53
Quote from: Bored chemist on 30/06/2017 18:41:49
Quote from: allyoop1234 on 28/06/2017 23:53:12
...

Please read, be open-minded and give me a steer on where you think it should go.
It should go in the trash can.

Get back in your box ugly!...Noone wants to hear from a Boring rude chemist!..
You may not have noticed yet, but nobody wants to hear from someone who strings a lot of nonsense together, and then tries to pass it off as "proof" of something which is plainly false.

That's why your efforts here have been unsuccessful, and will continue to be so.
This is a "Forum" ! .... Do you know what a Forum is ? .....It's for discussions you Ugly Monkey.....They're supposed to have differing opinions......Who are you, mother goose?.....The nice people posting are all grown up.....they can just sign off if they're not interested in it............"That's why your efforts..." .....I don't know what you're reading. My efforts have been very successful.....I'm getting to talk to a number of great people which is what i was looking for......Look, no need to throw your toys out of the pram, just go to a thread you do like!
Have you really not noticed that you are being told that you are wrong by all of these grown up people.
Incidentally, calling people names isn't very grown up. It's also a breach of the forum rules.
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Re: Everything is Infinite - Can you please promote to other scientists?
« Reply #22 on: 01/07/2017 16:22:27 »
I give up.
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Re: Everything is Infinite - Can you please promote to other scientists?
« Reply #23 on: 01/07/2017 20:54:42 »
If everything is infinite then the extent of scientists' knowledge of the OP's idea is already infinite, and there is no need for anyone to spread it further.
There is no need to promote it because its "promotedness" is already infinite.

On the other hand, f there is a need to promote it then the extent to which it is known is finite and thus provides a counter-example to the original hypothesis.
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Re: Everything is Infinite - Can you please promote to other scientists?
« Reply #24 on: 02/07/2017 12:40:15 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 01/07/2017 13:28:28
Quote from: allyoop1234 on 01/07/2017 12:22:26
Quote from: Bored chemist on 01/07/2017 11:21:47
Quote from: allyoop1234 on 01/07/2017 10:44:53
Quote from: Bored chemist on 30/06/2017 18:41:49
Quote from: allyoop1234 on 28/06/2017 23:53:12
...

Please read, be open-minded and give me a steer on where you think it should go.
It should go in the trash can.

Get back in your box ugly!...Noone wants to hear from a Boring rude chemist!..
You may not have noticed yet, but nobody wants to hear from someone who strings a lot of nonsense together, and then tries to pass it off as "proof" of something which is plainly false.

That's why your efforts here have been unsuccessful, and will continue to be so.
This is a "Forum" ! .... Do you know what a Forum is ? .....It's for discussions you Ugly Monkey.....They're supposed to have differing opinions......Who are you, mother goose?.....The nice people posting are all grown up.....they can just sign off if they're not interested in it............"That's why your efforts..." .....I don't know what you're reading. My efforts have been very successful.....I'm getting to talk to a number of great people which is what i was looking for......Look, no need to throw your toys out of the pram, just go to a thread you do like!
Have you really not noticed that you are being told that you are wrong by all of these grown up people.
Incidentally, calling people names isn't very grown up. It's also a breach of the forum rules.

Of course i can see people are having a different opinion. That would be a standard thing. I guess the proof would be in the creation of the gas.
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Re: Everything is Infinite - Can you please promote to other scientists?
« Reply #25 on: 02/07/2017 12:42:29 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 01/07/2017 16:22:27
I give up.
Ok, Kryptid, thanks for your time. One last question : Would the creation of the Wg gas i talk about change your opinion on the rest or would you still have the same opinion?
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Re: Everything is Infinite - Can you please promote to other scientists?
« Reply #26 on: 02/07/2017 13:30:29 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 01/07/2017 20:54:42
If everything is infinite then the extent of scientists' knowledge of the OP's idea is already infinite, and there is no need for anyone to spread it further.
There is no need to promote it because its "promotedness" is already infinite.

On the other hand, f there is a need to promote it then the extent to which it is known is finite and thus provides a counter-example to the original hypothesis.
Read back again. Your consciousness and your subconsciousness is infinite, it lasts forever. What knowledge someone fills it with it their choice. Infinite means "limitless or endless in space"...it does not mean "Everything" which is what you are implying. How can an idea be "..endless in space"? How can "promotedness" be "....endless in space"? So what you are saying is completely irrelevant. Also, yes, this will live on infinitely until the sites it is on dies thereby it is will have infinite life. That said, "Infinite" can consist of anything and doesn't consist of everything hence of course there is a need to promote. This need to promote is nothing to do with what's in the document. Read it again, it was talking about the Universe being limitless as well as things in the universe being limitless based on them changing from one form to another.

Again, maybe producing the gas will silence all of this, then again maybe not, some people tend to look at books and look at what other people are writing and producing and then let that dictate their opinion when anything new comes up. When i do get Wg created you will see a Star on Earth and a new element and it also proves a lot more that matter.

So, any help in finding people who may be able to work with me to create and prove this would be appreciated.
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Re: Everything is Infinite - Can you please promote to other scientists?
« Reply #27 on: 02/07/2017 14:01:27 »
Quote from: allyoop1234 on 02/07/2017 13:30:29
Read back again. Your consciousness and your subconsciousness is infinite,
No it very clearly isn't.
At best it might be semi infinite.
It doesn't go bck infinitely into the past. (I rather doubt it will go infinitlely far into the future too)
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. Infinite means "limitless or endless in space"...it does not mean "Everything" which is what you are implying. How can an idea be "..endless in space"? How can "promotedness" be "....endless in space"?
Good point, but if it is true that, for example, an idea can not be "endless in space" then, by your own definition, it can not be infinite.
And it is, therefore, a counter-example to your claim that everything is infinite.
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Re: Everything is Infinite - Can you please promote to other scientists?
« Reply #28 on: 02/07/2017 15:10:18 »
Quote from: allyoop1234 on 02/07/2017 12:42:29
Quote from: Kryptid on 01/07/2017 16:22:27
I give up.
Ok, Kryptid, thanks for your time. One last question : Would the creation of the Wg gas i talk about change your opinion on the rest or would you still have the same opinion?

Not most of it, no. Finding a way to make a new substance would not automatically mean that the rest of your arguments are correct.
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Re: Everything is Infinite - Can you please promote to other scientists?
« Reply #29 on: 02/07/2017 19:33:34 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 02/07/2017 15:10:18
Quote from: allyoop1234 on 02/07/2017 12:42:29
Quote from: Kryptid on 01/07/2017 16:22:27
I give up.
Ok, Kryptid, thanks for your time. One last question : Would the creation of the Wg gas i talk about change your opinion on the rest or would you still have the same opinion?

Not most of it, no. Finding a way to make a new substance would not automatically mean that the rest of your arguments are correct.
Ok, we'll have to agree to disagree then. I enjoyed the conversation though. Thanks
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Re: Everything is Infinite - Can you please promote to other scientists?
« Reply #30 on: 02/07/2017 19:43:23 »
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No it very clearly isn't.
At best it might be semi infinite.
It doesn't go bck infinitely into the past. (I rather doubt it will go infinitlely far into the future too)
When you include the afterlife which is infinite, yes both do last forever. With respect to the past and future, you'd
be surprised. A lot of people in history have been able to predict the future accurately, too accurately to be lucky and
I think you are able to go back to the past as well using your consciousness. Nevermind that though, just like the big bang, your consciousness has an origin and it lasts infinitely after that between life and afterlife.
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Good point, but if it is true that, for example, an idea can not be "endless in space" then, by your own definition, it can not be infinite.
And it is, therefore, a counter-example to your claim that everything is infinite.
Where do you get idea? Anyways, if you write something down, such as what we are doing now, that is endless in space as in, the space being the forum and endless meaning, until someone takes it down or the site goes, it lives forever. Same with an idea? If the idea is good enough i.e. E=MC2, it can last forever until someone comes up with something better.
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